Sukhoi PAK-FA / FGFA: Updates,News & Discussions

[Mughal-Prince]

Критерием истины является опыт. - June 10th, 2014

This seems to be a set back to this program although 2 more in testing but their is something Russians are not disclosing about engines as we have seen earlier in an Air show their was an engine fire out and again we have seen another incident.

Its now very important how India look into this program because I have a feeling that Russians will try to cover up things and try to hurried up things now which may further create problems in future. In the end its all my view of angle none need to be agreed with it. Looking forward to read from Indian members.

 

[sancho]

Any source for this claim (article,photo)?

Su 35 weapon loadout (check RVV-AE loads at station 1 and 2)

Or Su 35 model, presented by Sukhoi at the Paris Air Show:

Kindly tell me whether its real or not.

It's real:

@sancho is this cammo in use now ?

It's just a PS, here is the original pic:

 

[ejaz007]

T-50 Fighter Jet Fire Near Moscow Not to Affect Test Run

MOSCOW, June 10 (RIA Novosti) — An accident with an advanced Russian T-50 fifth-generation fighter jet, which briefly caught on fire while landing near Moscow, will not affect the schedule of planes’ test runs, Sukhoi company said Tuesday.

One of the T-50's engines failed during landing near Moscow on Tuesday, and there was a minor fire on aircraft’s hull. No casualties were reported and the fire was quickly extinguished.

“The jet will be restored. No one was injured. Sukhoi company has set up a commission to investigate the reasons of the accident. But the accident will not change the schedule of test runs slated for the T-50 program,” the company said in a statement.

The Sukhoi T-50 features a stealth profile with internal weapons bays for air and ground-attack weapons, thrust-vectoring engines for high-acceleration turns and an ability known as supercruise to fly supersonic without the use of a fuel-guzzling afterburner. The first flight was held in January 2010. In 2011, the jet was first displayed to the public at the MAKS airshow. In 2013, three jets were presented at the show and performed group maneuvers.

Combat squadrons could expect deliveries no later than in 2016 of the production version, known by its Russian acronym PAK-FA for future tactical fighter aircraft. The PAK-FA will replace the country’s aging fleet of Soviet-era fighter jets.

T-50 Fighter Jet Fire Near Moscow Not to Affect Test Run | Defense | RIA Novosti

 

[sancho]

NPO "SATURN" > ENGINES FOR MILITARY AIRCRAFT AND UAS


Screenshot from the NPO Saturn website, seems like they are preparing for to add infos on the NG engine for Pak Fa / FGFA soon. But kind of strange which pics they use to show both versions.


And more test flights of the T53 and T54:

 

[Indus Falcon]

India And Russia Are Trying To Build A Next-Generation Fighter Jet Together, And It's Not Going Well

• JEREMY BENDER
• JUN. 26, 2014, 11:40 AM

India's co-development of a fifth-generation fighter with Russia has not progressed quite as smoothly as the top brass in the Indian Air Force (IAF) had hoped.

The Sukhoi/HAL Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) was meant to radically upgrade India's air strength through the combination of Russian expertise and Indian financing.

Instead, the IAF has been publicly slamming the development of the next-generation fighter. According to the Business Standard, the IAF has been lambasting the FGFA since at least last December over a series of design flaws. India's also not happy about a perceived unequal split of work between the two countries, in addition to mushrooming expenses, and inadequate engines for the plane.

In January, the IAF took criticism of the FGFA a step further when the deputy chief of air staff complained that its engines and stealth capabilities — key components of a fifth-generation fighter — were far from adequate.

The IAF's complaints may have less to do with the plane itself than with India's internal politics.

India's Air Force cannot dictate military procurement. Under India's system, the Air Force relies on the Ministry of Defense's civilian bureaucracy to dictate policy. So, the IAF's public criticism of the fighter could be a way to pressure the Ministry into formulating a more equitable and efficient procurement policy, at least when Russia's involved.

Likewise, India also has plans to purchase French Rafale fighters. The Air Force could also be trying to secure a better financial deal with Russia over the next-generation fighters while still having money left over to purchase jets from France.

Regardless of the IAF's actual views on the FGFA, military cooperation between Russia and India is likely to continue — Russia currently supplies India with75% of its arms imports.

As Mark Kronenberg, a vice president of international business development for Boeing Defense, told Aviation Week: “if you look at the India-Russia relationship, it goes back to 1962. I don’t think that relationship will ever go [in] reverse."

The co-venture between Russia and India to develop a fifth-generation fighter has been in the works since 2010. The Russian T-50 variant of the FGFA has had some success, while the Indian variant is expected to begin extensive flight testing in India in 2014.


India Is Not Happy With Fifth-Generation Fighter - Business Insider

 

[sancho]

Now that we have seen the first pics of the T50 with weapons, we might also get a better idea about the size of the weapon / missile bays:

With folded fins of the newer R73 and R77 versions, this config seems to be possible, maybe even more depending on the depth of the weapon bays.

 

[Sergi]

@sancho nice find

One wild question: Can weapon pods on 5th gen aircraft cause increased in Radar Signature ???

 

[sancho]

@sancho nice find

One wild question: Can weapon pods on 5th gen aircraft cause increased in Radar Signature ???

Depends on how good they would be integrated to the design, I guess. If they are added to external pylons like on the Silent Hornet, they will increase the RCS much more, than the estimated missile bays for the R73 under the wing.

 

[nair]

Su 30 MKI, Mig 29, F15, F22, F/A 18 & Hawk Trainer

 

[The Great One]

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Su 30 MKI, Mig 29, F15, F22, F/A 18 & Hawk Trainer

Whoa. Is that real.

 

[Gessler]

Whoa. Is that real.

Yes, from recent COPE-TAUFAN exercise. It coincides with USAF deployment of
F-22 Raptors to Malaysia for the first time.

 

[MST]

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Su 30 MKI, Mig 29, F15, F22, F/A 18 & Hawk Trainer

Not MKI but MKM

 

[Badbadman]

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

New bird ... !
I see a few changes, like intakes. I think it has been redesigned.

 

[Gessler]

New bird ... !
I see a few changes, like intakes. I think it has been redesigned.

It's a PS. Already posted.