Strongest Empires by timeline

[Deno]

Empire.... The only empire that could destroy Moons and Planets....

Their Stronget Weapon

Their Leaders

The Emperor

The Most Epic Man of All Times... DARTH VADER

 

[scholseys]

Technically Scotland has never been conquered by anyone through warfare. Mighty Roman emperor Hadrian tried, he ended up building a wall to keep the 'barbarians' off. Even sweden has a claim to it, they also have never been conquered by warfare.

You must be knowing the concept of subset. The thing whole world know as an Islamic contributions, the next question arises who made significant contributions in Mathematics, art, architecture etc. in the Islamic World Arabs or Persians. Example. If you ask people if Ibn Sina was an Arab or a Persian, you will see an argument war among Arabs and Persians over his origin, Arabs claiming him as Arab and Iranian claiming him as Iranian.

pretty lame reason for hating each other. Most outsiders think persians are arabs until they go all PC.

 

[nalandapride]

They probably got conquered by buddhist monks. The same buddhist monks probably came to bangladesh and tought bangla, i used to date a nepali girl in high school, it was quite striking the similarity between bangla and nepali, i could understand a lot of things she used to say, same with her when i spoke bangla.

Its not Buddhist monk but common Origin from Sanskrit Language. I had studied Sanskrit at my school and I really co-relate many of the Bangla, Hindi words with that of Sanskrit with slight modification. I don't think Bangladesh teaches Sanskrit at School.

 

[scholseys]

Its not Buddhist monk but common Origin from Sanskrit Language. I had studied Sanskrit at my school and I really co-relate many of the Bangla, Hindi words with that of Sanskrit with slight modification. I don't think Bangladesh teaches Sanskrit at School.

yes i knew that but I found nepali to be closer to bangla than hindi or urdu. Also i heard from someone that when the aryans came, buddhists monks fled to bengal from them.

 

[Quasar]

Empire.... The only empire that could destroy Moons and Planets....

Their Stronget Weapon

Their Leaders

The Emperor

The Most Epic Man of All Times... DARTH VADER

2th the most evil emipre

 

[nalandapride]

yes i knew that but I found nepali to be closer to bangla than hindi or urdu. Also i heard from someone that when the aryans came, buddhists monks fled to bengal from them.

Your history seems weak. Aryans came in 1500BC, Buddhism founded in some 600BC in Magadha, first Ajatashatru(for his beloved Amrapaali of Vaishali), then Mauryas and Palas patronized Buddhism but Buddhism survived in Eastern India till 12th Century because of Pala patronized them. It was Bakhtiyar Khilji who gave final blow to Buddhism, he massacred so many monks, put Monastries on fire and destroyed Nalanda University, There were also 4 large monasteries in Bangladesh which was destroyed by him(I don't remember the name). Bihar got its name from word "Vihar or Vihara" means Buddhist Monastery.

The difference you see in Hindi is because of Persian loanwords otherwise we still use Sanskrit based vocabulary in our poetry and literature. Bengali uses more Sanskrit based words than Hindi because it was least affected by outsiders.

 

[Deno]

2th the most evil emipre

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[forummurat]

Ummayyad Empire had almost zero science. All Muslim science started with Abbasids (Persians).

What you are telling the story about? Ummayyad Empire had zero science?
Are you ok?
Ummayyad Empire was the leader in science and art...!!!

 

[Deno]

What you are telling the story about? Ummayyad Empire had zero science?
Are you ok?
Ummayyad Empire was the leader in science and art...!!!

I guess it wasn't the Abbasid Caliphate that created the golden age of Islam.... Oh wait...

@500, Abbasids were Arab actually....

 

[The SC]

funny wasn't it Persian who destroyed Ommayed and put Abbasid in the power and also weren't it Persians whom whenever they liked changed the Abbasid califs .
I wonder were they thought you in history that while all the Islamic governors at the time of Abbasid get their legitimacy from the Calif ,no new califs could sit in power unless his sit of power acknpwledged by Buyid dynasty
look what remain of abbasid territory at the time of Al-Booyeh by the way east of Ale-Booyeh territory was another Iranian Dynasty which were called Samanide and the north of their territory was Zeidis and before them Iran were ruled by Tahirid and Saffaride . you see after we overthrow the ommayed then Abbasid had no authorities over Iran , well except Mamoon which had a Persian mother and we ourselves put him on the sit of power against the wish of previous calif (Haroon Al-Rashid) and by the way we did it with an army less than half the Abbasid army .
Muslim dynasties of Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and about way of life before attacking Iran Arabs were tribal community that always were at war because of water wells and camels herd now I wonder after they conquered Iran who changed their way of life Arabs or Persians .

I would like to shed some more light on the origin of the Arabs, some facts confirm that there was an Arab civilisation prior to islam here are the facts:

1. The Arabs’ Semitic(some say Aryan who adopted the Semitic language) ancestors in the Fertile Crescent and Egypt produced 5 brilliant ancient civilizations, which benefited the earliest Western civilizations of Greece and Rome. These 5 are: the Iraqi Sumerian and Babylonian civilizations; the Egyptian Pharaonic civilization; the Lebanese Phoenician civilization; and the Palestinian Canaanite civilization.

2. The 3 Semitic religions of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam were all born in the Arab region.

3. The Post-Islamic Arab civilization contributed handsomely to the European Renaissance.

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Arab Civilization before Islam

Contrary to some popular Western misconceptions propagated by many Western "experts" and "authorities" on the Arab world alleging that Arabs did not have any civilization before Islam, or that Arabs were nothing more than a collection of nomadic warring primitive tribes, confined solely to the Arabian Peninsula, who spent most of their existence looking for food and water, the historical record proves otherwise. In fact, centuries before the birth of Islam, the Arabs had several civilizations, not only in the Arabian Peninsula itself, but also in the Fertile Crescent, some of which were highly advanced with elaborate development and culture. Although Arab civilization before Islam might not have had a noticeable impact on Greece and Rome, it is nonetheless important to briefly mention here the following pre-Islamic Arab civilizations in order to dispel this wrong conventional Western notion that Arabs had no civilization before the birth of Islam, were nothing but wandering nomads, and were confined only to the Arabian Peninsula.

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The Kingdom of Saba (or Sheba)

One of the earliest and most important of all pre-Islamic Arab civilizations is the Qahtani Kingdom of Saba or Sheba (10th century BCE – 7th century CE), which had an elaborate civilization, legendary in its reputation of prosperity and wealth. The Kingdom of Saba was located in the southwestern mountainous rainy parts of the Arabian Peninsula in what is known today as the regions of Aseer and Yemen. Envious of its wealth, the Romans named it “Arabia Felix” (fortunate or prosperous Arabia).

The Sabaean capital, Ma'rib, was located near San'a, today's capital of Yemen, which was reportedly founded by Noah's eldest son Shem (or "Sam" in Arabic) from whose name the word "Sami" in Arabic or "Semitic" in English comes. In addition to their domains in the Arabian Penisula, the Sabaean kings controlled for a long time some parts of the East African coast across the Red Sea where they established the Kingdom of Abyssinia, which is Eritrea today. It should be indicated here that the name “Abyssinia” comes from the Arabic word “Habashah”. One of the most famous rulers of the Sabaeans was Queen Balgais. This mystic Arab Queen of Sheba was well known for her beauty, grace, wealth, charm, and splendor. She reportedly had a famous impassioned encounter with the Hebrew King Solomon when she took a special trip to Jerusalem

The Sabaean Kingdom produced and traded in spices, Arabian frankincense, myrrh, and other Arabian aromatics. The Sabaeans excelled in agriculture and had a remarkable irrigation system with terraced mountains, incredible huge water tunnels in mountains and great dams including the legendary Ma'rib Dam, which was built around 2000 BCE. This Arab dam was considered to be one of the greatest technological wonders of the ancient world. However, the tragic breaking of the Ma'rib Dam around 575, as indicated in the Qur'an, was an event of very traumatic proportions in the collective consciousness of all Arabs at the time and of later generations.

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The Kingdom of Himyar

The Arab Kingdom of Himyar (115 BCE to 525 CE), which was also located in the southern part of the Arabian Peninsula, had a sizable number of Arab Christians and Arab Jews (not Hebrews). The most prominent Arab Jew of this kingdom was King Dhu al-Nuwas who persecuted his Arab Christian subjects. He reportedly incinerated some of them alive in retaliation for their persecution of Arab Jews in neighboring Arab Christian Najran.

From their capital city, first at Zafar and later at San'a, the powerful Himyarite kings executed military plans which resulted in the expansion of their domains at times eastward as far as the Persian Gulf and northward into the Arabian Desert. However, internal disorder and the changing of trade routes eventually caused the kingdom to suffer political and economic decline. In fact, after several unsuccessful attempts, the African Abyssinians finally invaded the Arab Himyarite Kingdom in 525. In 570, the year Prophet Mohammad was born, the Abyssinian governor Abraha sent an army of elephant-borne troops in an unsuccessful attempt to attack the city of Makkah (Mecca) and destroy its Ka'bah. In 575 the Persians invaded Himyar and ended the Abyssinian presence in Himyar. But the Persians did not last long there either. Soon thereafter Islam swept the entire Arabian Peninsula.

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The Nabataean Kingdom

The Arab Nabataean Kingdom was established in the 6th century BCE. It was located south of the Dead Sea and along the eastern shores of the Gulf of Aqaba in the northern parts of the Hejaz. The Nabataeans had their capital city in Petra that was a flourishing center of commerce and civilization. The Nabataeans’ great achievements and culture are still echoed in the magnificent carved-in-the-mountains monuments they left behind. Thousands of tourists from all over the world are attracted every year to this Arab region to see these monuments not only at Petra in Jordan but also in Saudi Arabia's Mada'in Salih (i.e., Prophet Salih who warned the Thamud Arab Kingdom to worship Allah before the birth of Prophet Mohammad). The small Arab neighboring Kingdoms of Ad, Thamud, and Lihyan - all also with brilliant monuments and achievements mentioned in the Qu'ran - came under the Nabataean suzerainty for a while.

The Arab Nabataean Kingdom, which at its zenith ruled much of the Syrian interior including Damascus, later became a vassal Roman state and eventually fell victim to European colonialism when it was absorbed into the Roman Empire as the "Provincia Arabia" in 195 CE. In fact, the Roman Emperor Philip, who ruled from 244 to 249, was ethnically an Arab from this Arab Nabataean region. Incidentally, this Roman Emperor who was known as "Philip the Arab", was preceded to the Palatine Hill in Rome by a series of Arab empresses, half-Arab emperors, and the fully Arab Elagabulus of Emesa. It is also believed by some scholars that Philip the Arab was really the first Roman Christian emperor (244-249 CE) rather than Constantine I who ruled the Roman Empire (312-337 CE) 63 years after him.

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The Kingdom of Tadmor (or Palmyra)

Another important Arab civilization before Islam was the famous Kingdom of Palmyra (or Tadmor in Arabic), which is now Hims in Syria. Although mentioned in some history books as early as the 9th century BCE, Tadmor became only prominent in the 3rd century BCE when it controlled the vital trade route between Mesopotamia and the Mediterranean. The Tadmorians had a great civilization and excelled in international trade. However, like the Nabataeans, they eventually came under the control of the expanding Roman imperialism by becoming another client Arab state of Rome.

In 265 the Tadmorian Arab King Udhayna (or Odenathus) was rewarded by the Romans to become a vice-emperor of the Roman Empire because of his assistance in their war against Persia. However, King Udhayna's widow Zainab (aka az-Zabba or Zenobia), the famous strong Arab queen wanted nothing less for Palmyra than a complete independence from Rome. She succeeded in temporarily driving the Roman invaders out of most of the Fertile Crescent and proclaimed her son Wahballat (or Athenodorus) to be the true emperor of a new independent Arab Palmyra. Queen Zainab's Arabian independent spirit, however, deeply angered the Romans and eventually resulted in the destruction of the Tadmorian Kingdom in 273 by a powerful force of the Roman imperial army. As part of the Roman victory celebration, queen Zainab was brutally taken to Rome in golden chains.

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The Kingdom of Kindah

Kindat al-Muluk (or the Royal Kindah) was a famous Arab kingdom, which originated in the southern Arabian Peninsula near Yemen's Hadramawt region. Its capital city, al-Fau, was excavated northeast of Najran in Saudi Arabia in 1972 by Saudi archaeologists from King Saud University in Riyadh. The Kingdom of Kindah became prominent around the late 5th and early 6th centuries CE when it made one of the earliest and successful efforts to unite several Arab tribes under its new domain in Najd in central Arabia.

The traditional founder and ruler of Kindah was Hujr Akil al-Murar. However, the most renowned of all Kindah kings was al-Harith ibn Amr, Hujr's grandson, who extended his kingdom's domain north by invading Iraq and temporarily capturing al-Hirah, the capital city of the Arab Christian Kingdom of Lakhmid. But in 529 al-Hirah was liberated by its Christian Arabs who killed King al-Harith along with 50 members of his family. After al-Harith's death, the Kindah Kingdom split up into four factions - Asad, Taghlib, Kinanah, and Qays - each led by a prince. The famous pre-Islamic Arab poet Imru' al-Qays (who died around 540) was the prince of Qays. The continuing feuding between these Arab factions, however, eventually forced the Kindah princes by the middle of the 6th century to withdraw to their original place in southern Arabia next to Yemen. Nevertheless, after Islam was established throughout the Arabian Peninsula, many descendants of the Royal Kindah continued to hold powerful political positions within the Islamic state. In fact, one branch of the Royal Kindah was even successful in gaining great political influence in far away Arab Andalusia in the European Iberian Peninsula.

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The Kingdom of Lakhmid

The Arab Christian Kingdom of Lakhmid, which originated in the 3rd century CE, reached the height of its power during the 6th century under King al-Munthir III (503-554). Its domain covered from the western shores of the Persian Gulf all the way north to Iraq where its capital city, al-Hira, was located on the Euphrates River near present day Kufah. Working in close cooperation with the Zoroastrian Persian Sasanian Empire to which the Lakhmid Kingdom was a vassal state, al-Munthir III raided and frequently challenged the pro-Byzantine Arab Kingdom of Ghassan in Syria. His son King Amr Ibn Hind was patron of the legendary Arab poet Tarfah Ibn al-Abd and other poets associated with the seven Mu'allaqat (the Suspended Odes") of pre-Islamic Arabia (see "The Jahiliyyah" below). The Lakhmid dynasty eventually disintegrated after the death of its great Arab Christian King an-Nu'man III in 602.

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The Kingdom of Ghassan

As the Lakhmid Arab Kingdom was Christian so was its Arab neighbor to the west, the Kingdom of Ghassan, whose capital city was Damascus. This Syrian Ghassanid Kingdom was prominent in the 6th century and was an ally of the Byzantine Empire. It protected the vital spice trade route from the south of the Arabian Peninsula and also acted as a buffer against the desert bedouins.

The Ghassanid King al-Harith Ibn Jabalah (reigned 529-569), who was a Monophysite Christian, supported the Christian Byzantine Empire against the Zoroastrian Sasanian Persian Empire and successfully opposed the Arab Kingdom of Lakhmids, which sided with Persians. As a result, King al-Harith was given the title of “Patricius” by the Byzantine emperor Justinian.

Like the Lakhmids, the Ghassanids patronized the arts and many literary geniuses such as al-Nabighah al-Thubyani and Hassan Ibn Thabit. Great Arab poets like them were frequently entertained in the royal courts of the Ghassanid kings. After the emergence of Islam in the 7th century, most inhabitants of the Kingdom of Ghassan became Muslim. One of the most prominent poets of the Kingdom of Ghassan was Hassan Ibn Thabit. Ibn Thabit, who espoused Islam, wrote several famous and beautiful poems in praise of Prophet Mohammad.

 

[Avisheik]

2th the most awesome emipre

There, corrected for you . The soviet empire was the most badass empire ever

 

[forummurat]

And yes..
Abbasids when converted to Persians..!

 

[Avisheik]

I dont understand why such sectarianism between the arabs and the persians. It baffles, both of them are muslims at the end of the day. Why hate each other? someone please tell me other than an arabian or a persian.



They probably got conquered by buddhist monks. The same buddhist monks probably came to bangladesh and tought bangla, i used to date a nepali girl in high school, it was quite striking the similarity between bangla and nepali, i could understand a lot of things she used to say, same with her when i spoke bangla.

Buddhism came from bihar, which is quite close to bengal, with no geographical obstruction.

Well, west bengal borders nepal, bound to have some similarity

Technically Scotland has never been conquered by anyone through warfare. Mighty Roman emperor Hadrian tried, he ended up building a wall to keep the 'barbarians' off. Even sweden has a claim to it, they also have never been conquered by warfare.



pretty lame reason for hating each other. Most outsiders think persians are arabs until they go all PC.

Hmm Japan wasnt conquered until WW2, they deserve a mention with scotland and nepal

 

[K-Xeroid]

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Ummayyad Empire had almost zero science. All Muslim science started with Abbasids (Persians).

Are you Serious about that Bold Part, Abbasids are not Persians, They are the Branch of Quraish (Arabians).. :Wat:
I know about them Cuz I'm ..,Ummm ... Leave it..

The Abbasid caliphate was founded by the descendants of the Prophet Mohammad (S.A.W)'s youngest uncle, ‘Abbas ibn ‘Abd al-Muttalib,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbasid_Caliphate

Wat a shame it is, Iranians are claiming Abbasid as their originated tribe... :Bad:

 

[yahya07]

I've always wondered why Jews have never founded a strong empire/civilization with even with their 5000 year history? History shows they just run between Christian and Islamic empires, whichever one has the upper hand. A

btw I do not consider the Khazars a Jewish civilisation since they were already well established before the ruling elite decided to convert.