Strongest Empires by timeline

[Hack-Hook]

Oh! is that right?
She must be a "hyperidiot" then. To identify Persia as a hyper-power, while Empires such as Omayyad and Abassied, that turned conquered nations and cultures religions, languages, way of life, and every single aspect of their lives upside down, as superpower.is just sooo funny...

funny wasn't it Persian who destroyed Ommayed and put Abbasid in the power and also weren't it Persians whom whenever they liked changed the Abbasid califs .
I wonder were they thought you in history that while all the Islamic governors at the time of Abbasid get their legitimacy from the Calif ,no new califs could sit in power unless his sit of power acknpwledged by Buyid dynasty
look what remain of abbasid territory at the time of Al-Booyeh by the way east of Ale-Booyeh territory was another Iranian Dynasty which were called Samanide and the north of their territory was Zeidis and before them Iran were ruled by Tahirid and Saffaride . you see after we overthrow the ommayed then Abbasid had no authorities over Iran , well except Mamoon which had a Persian mother and we ourselves put him on the sit of power against the wish of previous calif (Haroon Al-Rashid) and by the way we did it with an army less than half the Abbasid army .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_dynasties_of_Iran

and about way of life before attacking Iran Arabs were tribal community that always were at war because of water wells and camels herd now I wonder after they conquered Iran who changed their way of life Arabs or Persians .

 

[Black Widow]

4000 years ago the Punjabi/Sindhis were not Muslims. Islam is 1500 years old.

I got bann once for the same statement...

 

[Hack-Hook]

If an American with an Indian ethnic background in LA made a substantial scientific advancement. Which country can add this to its scientific achievements?
India or US?
Of course its the US. Therefore they are all Arab achievements.

well let tell you something no achievement at the time of Ommayed and at the time of Abbasside and later Arab didn't governed Iran it was Persian Islamic dynasties as perhaps you didn't here anything about them then I suggest you read this links
Muslim dynasties of Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

by the way if an Indian in the time of colonization have any achievement in Medical ,ART and Literature then it belongs to India not England so they were all Iranian achievement not Arabs . and stealing scientist hundfreds of years after their death don't change the fact everybody now who they are.

 

[Developereo]

Almost every thread turns into Arabs v/s Iranians. Getting ridiculous!

 

[Hack-Hook]

Congratulations! 700 factual errors in one post.

First of all, Arabs never destroyed libraries.(source?)
second, Arabs used to call everyone living in Iran and the Stan-countries Persian, so most what you consider as Persian were actually not. In fact half of citizens of "Persia" today are not Persians.
third, when "Persians" use to publish scientific and literary books in Persian language it got no attention at all, that's why Most scientific publication written in Persian were translated to Arabic by the same authors. It was THE scientific language of its time.
fourth, Most"Persians" living in Persia who converted to Islam under the Abbasid Caliphate didn't consider the Arabs as foreign occupiers. Therefore, they were citizens of Abbasid. As the example I gave in previous post.
Finally, Most Persian scientific contribution in the middle ages were done during the Islamic golden age, which without Arabs and the Arab government it would have never happened.

well I talked about Abbaside and Iranian , but let ask you one thing about Arab didn't burned books
who said this famous words

"they will either contradict the Koran, in which case they are heresy, or they will agree with it, so they are superfluous."

and then ordered to burn all the books let me help you he was the second Califph

 

[nalandapride]

ARAB CONTRIBUTIONS TO CIVILIZATION

That are the contributions of people who lived in Arab Empire but Arabs don't have contributions more than expanding empire and sea voyages. Most of the contributions are from Iranians. And regarding Mathematics and other things you are mentioning, all was copied from different civilizations, how it become Arab contributions.

It always seems funny to we Indians that our Invention is known as Arabic Numerals.

 

[Hack-Hook]

What about Alexander..Which empire did he lead?

23 years and a great warrior.

about Alexander its hard to call it an empire he was a Conqueror but he had no heir and his territory divided between his Generals and non of them were worthy of being called Empire .

 

[Avisheik]

The Avishek Empire. PDF members gets a planet each

 

[Serpentine]

I don't know what is Arabs obsession with the name Persia/Iran?They can't even tolerate hearing it.
But there is a good saying for that:
You should respect jealous people, because they are truly the only ones who accept that you are better than them.

 

[Avisheik]

Nobody mentioned Nepal??

That small guy was never conquered by an outsider.

 

[Serpentine]

I don't know what is Arabs obsession with the name Persia/Iran?They can't even tolerate hearing it.
But there is a good saying for that:
You should respect jealous people, because they are truly the only ones who accept that you are better than them.

Persian "empire" is not even on the list!

Abbasid Caliphate: 11.1
Rashidun Caliphate: 09.0
Umayyad Caliphate: 10.5
Achaemenid Empire: 08.75


Afsharid Dynasty, Persia: 04.0

Oh poor boy,you don't even know that Achaemenid Empire is the same Persian empire.educate yourself.That's why i try not to argue with Arabs in historical topics.

 

[scholseys]

Nobody mentioned Nepal??

That small guy was never conquered by an outsider.

nobody tried to conquer it due to it's harsh lands and its strategic location. If you ever visit nepal you will know why its a very harsh place to engage a battle in.

 

[Avisheik]

nobody tried to conquer it due to it's harsh lands and its strategic location. If you ever visit nepal you will know why its a very harsh place to engage a battle in.

Moghuls, british, afghans, etc. all tried to conquer it but they failed

Yup, but they were still unconquered by foreign invaders. That makes them awesome.

Anyway the winning side will always have some sort of advantage.

 

[scholseys]

I dont understand why such sectarianism between the arabs and the persians. It baffles, both of them are muslims at the end of the day. Why hate each other? someone please tell me other than an arabian or a persian.

Moghuls, british, afghans, etc. all tried to conquer it but they failed

Yup, but they were still unconquered by foreign invaders. That makes them awesome.

Anyway the winning side will always have some sort of advantage.

They probably got conquered by buddhist monks. The same buddhist monks probably came to bangladesh and tought bangla, i used to date a nepali girl in high school, it was quite striking the similarity between bangla and nepali, i could understand a lot of things she used to say, same with her when i spoke bangla.

 

[nalandapride]

I dont understand why such sectarianism between the arabs and the persians. It baffles, both of them are muslims at the end of the day. Why hate each other? someone please tell me other than an arabian or a persian.

You must be knowing the concept of subset. The thing whole world know as an Islamic contributions, the next question arises who made significant contributions in Mathematics, art, architecture etc. in the Islamic World Arabs or Persians. Example. If you ask people if Ibn Sina was an Arab or a Persian, you will see an argument war among Arabs and Persians over his origin, Arabs claiming him as Arab and Iranian claiming him as Iranian.