Stronger Pakistan means Stable India

[TMA]

We must understand clearly...they who control power in Bharat cannot accept those whose ancestors converted to Islam and sought to make a separate destiny.
They who hold power in Bharat hold onto the realisation of "Akhand Bharat".
We must bear this in mind when dealing in bilateral relations.
An educated and economically prosperous and self reliant Pakistan is not advantages to those who seek Akhand Bharat.

 

[Echo_419]

Indeed Sir... The fact is, India never understand such values of peaceful region or a peaceful country. Now the question would be raised as how peaceful Pakistan will be beneficial then i would say a peaceful neighbor is always in favor of stabilized country.


India never accepted the reality nor would ever try to do so or express such sanity openly as after all this how their elected governments earns the vote bank by believing upon Hindutva Extremism. Rather to come up with building relations with neighbors and a strong country itself, India believes on force and weapons much than diplomacy as well.


Pakistan intention never was threatening towards India i must say though the procurement programs of India are well noticed that she do not miss any opportunity of weapon sale or any seller window just because of self created insecurity phobia. India need to act like a responsible member of the region and should applause the efforts of Pakistan that we had lost thousands of lives fighting the terrorism which in last is not in favor of any party in this region. Indeed it has to be praised that Pakistan is continuously working and doing efforts for the betterment of the region.


Addition of such F-16s is no threat at all for India by any sane comparison as well. It has been clearly expressed by US & Pakistan regarding the use of these F-16s which is meant to be counter the threat of terrorists only but on other hand interestingly, India feels insecure because of these birds in Pakistan inventory. To me, it seems to be Indian national duty to oppose whatever mentions Pakistan and the same has been revealed to US & West as well so once again, relations are getting stronger. However, my opinion is, it should be all as balanced relations rather to tilt fully towards US, West, China or Russia. The procurement of more F-16s is about to fight the terrorism which may not end soon as it may take time, though I hope may not, but this is a disease that need a continue treatment unless terminated fully.


The threats we faced are also being loved by our neighbor to the some extents to live the dream of unstable Pakistan though we fought much better. Even in Afghan theater, which has less or nothing to do with India but most with Pakistan and yet India is fully playing his game only to counter the Pakistan. Despite all those evidences and dossiers indeed, US still do not want to loose India just because of China as US knows her influence in Pakistan wouldn't work in that case, China. US has also realized her vested interests in case of India into Afghanistan hence peace talks with Taliban are hosted by Pakistan in presence of Afghanistan, US and interestingly China.


Look at the acquisition of weapon by our Neighbor. It is clearly visible that India has no concern in case the region will suffer due to her intention and love of war that is much proved by way of proxy. India has been lobbying every corner post only in obsession of Pakistan which itself does not match her defence budget nor the size. Favoring the proxies indeed wouldn't favor the India as well in the end. Unrest in region especially in Pakistan will ultimately affect the peace within India. The security condition in India and some later attacks by separatists indicates that Indian policy is almost about to be failed in such aspects and if India still continue to favor such groups against Pakistan will eventually back fire and will hurt India badly.


There are many internal movements active in India as well so it is not out of the view that by any time, such sensitive arms or weapons could fall in hands of those separators and the same may lead to total destruction. India should step up of the level of hate only against Pakistan and need to act responsibly.


I hope that India may change her policy towards betterment of region and a better future for mankind as well.


Pakistan Zindabad

Give up your claim on our part of Kashmir & declare the current LOC International border. We will be more than happy to increase our releations with you

 

[The Eagle]

Give up your claim on our part of Kashmir & declare the current LOC International border. We will be more than happy to increase our releations with you

The answer could be very simple and plain as "vise versa" except the current LOC thing that wouldn't fit though human do not believe boundaries with walls but the gentlemen words as honour. I believe that you knew the answer but still came with repeated words otherwise disputes cannot be solved with an equation depended upon profitless formula while profit to one and less to other but to the both sides.

Pakistan never believes for relations against bargains but India to the most of extent, this is why occupied the Kashmir otherwise it has to be the wish of Kashmiris rather to apply force for personal gains. Pakistan shows the interest to support only Kashmiris otherwise it is between Kashmiris and India and while keeping in view the recent development by resistance, such offer by you has to be taken as "keep it up we know that you are having a hard time and looking for an escape route" while India is showing a friendly gesture only to misguide Kashmiri People against Pakistan yet not succeeded nor will. Time is turning around and the one who has enjoyed the most by force is having the consequences and effects of such misadventure.

My friend, force is not everything to tackle anything but there are ways to handle situations like with talks, negotiations and building trust on equality while India is not presenting the Kashmiri People but indeed the land which is occupied. Just look at this like somebody took your candy forcibly then first you will resist with all but as couldn't make it, you will loose the control for a while but you will curse the person whole of your life and will never miss a chance for the payback which was rightfully belonged to you. Kashmir was a sweet candy that India took forcibly from them people and is cursed from the day first while reasoned the hatred among Kashmiris that will never end until & unless paid back so the things started to turn around or other way and picture has been flipped like the resistance is gaining pace again and India is having a hard time.


All you need to think about this, on humanitarian grounds which i bet nobody lacks but still some did not discover. Whenever you will talk to the Pakistan, indeed the reply will be the same as you have chosen the wrong platform yet it can be more feasible by talking to them Kashmiris. Let the people of Kashmir express their concerns and wish to join who they want or to be remain independent while with no presence of any occupier force so the world will know what exactly they want but the chaos is well manipulated in this scenario only to misaddress the situation by India.

India needs to think for a while that they had enough hatred and still being hated by Kashmir so why not to wash this label off and give the rights to the deserving people to chose by themselves while promoting the humanity and say no to insanity. The Kashmir has suffered a long way due to such insane ideology of encroachment by force yet continues with sacrifices throughout the history which will indeed haunt Indian mindset. The Kashmir is struggling for her right being aggrieved and resistance came while left with no other option but to strive for redressal of their grievances.

It is in the history that we need to learn and remember to build a better future that whoever deprives a nation from her rights by any mean, has become a history to learn the lesson and a haunted reality so also became the reason of loss of own precious lives that those can be saved if the rights are given back to the deserving. Life is not promised forever so earn love as much as you can to be remembered as a great human rather to build house of afterlife based upon thorns and innocent blood which will never give comfort. Let chose to not to be blind folded by worldly arm power which will not be existed forever as the history is full of people that concerned their own strength throughout their lives and did not ever served the humanity so still the names are inked with black and are not in this world. On the other hand, there are people that devoted their lives for humanity and served with best yet are remembered, loved and praised so it is all up-to you to chose what or to build the foundation which will not just give you the comfort but the world will live at peace.

I don’t know whether you may agree or not but all I tried to do, was to tell something which is indeed not a feed nor being injected by whatever the monopoly mean could be but as my responsibility. I wouldn’t mind even of you are not agree fully or to the some extent but at least adopt a way of conversation that in the end we both can agree to disagree peacefully and respectfully. You are at liberty to not to reply but do not try to bargain against the precious lives lost in Kashmir.

@Neutron

 

[Echo_419]

The answer could be very simple and plain as "vise versa" except the current LOC thing that wouldn't fit though human do not believe boundaries with walls but the gentlemen words as honour. I believe that you knew the answer but still came with repeated words otherwise disputes cannot be solved with an equation depended upon profitless formula while profit to one and less to other but to the both sides.

Pakistan never believes for relations against bargains but India to the most of extent, this is why occupied the Kashmir otherwise it has to be the wish of Kashmiris rather to apply force for personal gains. Pakistan shows the interest to support only Kashmiris otherwise it is between Kashmiris and India and while keeping in view the recent development by resistance, such offer by you has to be taken as "keep it up we know that you are having a hard time and looking for an escape route" while India is showing a friendly gesture only to misguide Kashmiri People against Pakistan yet not succeeded nor will. Time is turning around and the one who has enjoyed the most by force is having the consequences and effects of such misadventure.

My friend, force is not everything to tackle anything but there are ways to handle situations like with talks, negotiations and building trust on equality while India is not presenting the Kashmiri People but indeed the land which is occupied. Just look at this like somebody took your candy forcibly then first you will resist with all but as couldn't make it, you will loose the control for a while but you will curse the person whole of your life and will never miss a chance for the payback which was rightfully belonged to you. Kashmir was a sweet candy that India took forcibly from them people and is cursed from the day first while reasoned the hatred among Kashmiris that will never end until & unless paid back so the things started to turn around or other way and picture has been flipped like the resistance is gaining pace again and India is having a hard time.


All you need to think about this, on humanitarian grounds which i bet nobody lacks but still some did not discover. Whenever you will talk to the Pakistan, indeed the reply will be the same as you have chosen the wrong platform yet it can be more feasible by talking to them Kashmiris. Let the people of Kashmir express their concerns and wish to join who they want or to be remain independent while with no presence of any occupier force so the world will know what exactly they want but the chaos is well manipulated in this scenario only to misaddress the situation by India.

India needs to think for a while that they had enough hatred and still being hated by Kashmir so why not to wash this label off and give the rights to the deserving people to chose by themselves while promoting the humanity and say no to insanity. The Kashmir has suffered a long way due to such insane ideology of encroachment by force yet continues with sacrifices throughout the history which will indeed haunt Indian mindset. The Kashmir is struggling for her right being aggrieved and resistance came while left with no other option but to strive for redressal of their grievances.

It is in the history that we need to learn and remember to build a better future that whoever deprives a nation from her rights by any mean, has become a history to learn the lesson and a haunted reality so also became the reason of loss of own precious lives that those can be saved if the rights are given back to the deserving. Life is not promised forever so earn love as much as you can to be remembered as a great human rather to build house of afterlife based upon thorns and innocent blood which will never give comfort. Let chose to not to be blind folded by worldly arm power which will not be existed forever as the history is full of people that concerned their own strength throughout their lives and did not ever served the humanity so still the names are inked with black and are not in this world. On the other hand, there are people that devoted their lives for humanity and served with best yet are remembered, loved and praised so it is all up-to you to chose what or to build the foundation which will not just give you the comfort but the world will live at peace.

I don’t know whether you may agree or not but all I tried to do, was to tell something which is indeed not a feed nor being injected by whatever the monopoly mean could be but as my responsibility. I wouldn’t mind even of you are not agree fully or to the some extent but at least adopt a way of conversation that in the end we both can agree to disagree peacefully and respectfully. You are at liberty to not to reply but do not try to bargain against the precious lives lost in Kashmir.

@Neutron

I a more of a practical man & that's why I will firmly oppose any attempts to infringe on the integrity of the Indian union.

 

[The Eagle]

I a more of a practical man & that's why I will firmly oppose any attempts to infringe on the integrity of the Indian union.

So all that effort to be at PDF was made as practical though I wonder why aren't you are there to resolve the issue. No attempt is made but Kashmir is a reality.

 

[Kao Boy]

Well seems to be a nicely orchestrated poll driven thought... Many of so called think tanks here has accused India of being a dominating evil in the region. Let's clarify some things here :

Why it is always India which has to neglect things about Pakistan. Yes we are insecure but it is not Pakistan always because we have almost every time beaten you to the ground in every war we fought. We are insecure of China hence we started our covert Nuclear program which was later revealed and was sanctioned by the United States. Yes, we almost lost our hope when we lost to China and as dragon can come anytime hunting for us we commenced building Nukes.

India does not have to have Nuke war with you until we can beat you with conventional war. You were always insecure about us and not "We". Gen Zia once famously said " Pakistan" will feed on grass and leaves but will develop nukes post our development. We have always upgraded our Army, Air Force to combat China and never Pakistan. Though, you are always a threat on our western end and history tells us that. We may have thought about you too sometimes though..

Why Pakistan built nukes when none of your neighour except India had nukes which has "No first use policy" and you still do not follow the "No first use policy" after having NUKES. China won't bomb you and IRAN and IRAQ does not have Nukes, Afghanistan can't really afford an ARMY forget about Nukes then who left INDIA. Your strongest ally in this region China have nukes and assured you to defend you in the time of need.

You have begged millions to eradicate Taliban post soviet war, isn't US still not fighting them in Afghanistan. You begged millions from KSA and in their time of need in Yemen you showed your back to them referring internal pressure from Pakistani awaam. Then how can India trust her enemy.

Many of you have also defended F-16 Procurement from US and they will supply no matter what India's stand will be. You do not have any potential threat today from any of your neighbors as they are themselves strangled in their own homegrown issues except INDIA. You need airplanes for counter - Insurgency??? F-16 is a fighter jet and not a counter- insurgency plane which can fly low and for reconnaissance and other counter - insurgency purpose.

PS : You upgrade your Army, Air force, Navy to counter India and for no peaceful purpose. Chapter close...

Well seems to be a nicely orchestrated poll driven thought... Many of so called think tanks here has accused India of being a dominating evil in the region. Let's clarify some things here :

Why it is always India which has to neglect things about Pakistan. Yes we are insecure but it is not Pakistan always because we have almost every time beaten you to the ground in every war we fought. We are insecure of China hence we started our covert Nuclear program which was later revealed and was sanctioned by the United States. Yes, we almost lost our hope when we lost to China and as dragon can come anytime hunting for us we commenced building Nukes.

India does not have to have Nuke war with you until we can beat you with conventional war. You were always insecure about us and not "We". Gen Zia once famously said " Pakistan" will feed on grass and leaves but will develop nukes post our development. We have always upgraded our Army, Air Force to combat China and never Pakistan. Though, you are always a threat on our western end and history tells us that. We may have thought about you too sometimes though..

Why Pakistan built nukes when none of your neighour except India had nukes which has "No first use policy" and you still do not follow the "No first use policy" after having NUKES. China won't bomb you and IRAN and IRAQ does not have Nukes, Afghanistan can't really afford an ARMY forget about Nukes then who left INDIA. Your strongest ally in this region China have nukes and assured you to defend you in the time of need.

You have begged millions to eradicate Taliban post soviet war, isn't US still not fighting them in Afghanistan. You begged millions from KSA and in their time of need in Yemen you showed your back to them referring internal pressure from Pakistani awaam. Then how can India trust her enemy.

Many of you have also defended F-16 Procurement from US and they will supply no matter what India's stand will be. You do not have any potential threat today from any of your neighbors as they are themselves strangled in their own homegrown issues except INDIA. You need airplanes for counter - Insurgency??? F-16 is a fighter jet and not a counter- insurgency plane which can fly low and for reconnaissance and other counter - insurgency purpose.

PS : You upgrade your Army, Air force, Navy to counter India and for no peaceful purpose. Chapter close...