Strike package of PAF F-16 - Fear Factor

[NABZ]

Sir... I am enjoying the show and waiting for more unethical behaviour by neighbor as soon as 4.5++ platform announced and AESA by PAF.

BTW, what else to expect from someone having a rival sight but results are always expected.

why don't you unleash the secret

 

[The Eagle]

why don't you unleash the secret

Sir, sometimes things are better not told and kept secrete until the right moment though I don't want to act as keeping a secrete but I observe sometimes and it makes sense.

Just let the neighbor buy and buy more, throw the money for procurement and PAF will be here with the right and most hurting punch and trust me, the concerned personnel are aware and working enough. You can see the impact of all these just 8 falcons.

Pakistan Zindabad

 

[r0ck]

No, but they have major influence on the government and the biggest anti-taliban faction, the norther alliance. As much as Pakistanis may hate to admit it, India is actually quite important to solve Afghanistan's problem. Even if a deal is brokered, India will no doubt try and break any deal, or start a new proxy group to further their objectives. As such, India must be given SOME sort of peace offering, otherwise, Afghanistan's peace will be an unfinished project.

Yes, India has influence over Afghan Government and Norther Alliance. But had they been so effective, there was no need of bringing Taliban to the table.

Formation of Quadrilateral Coordination Group with Pakistan present and India absent itself testfies whose the more influential for establishing peace in Afghanistan.

Pakistan's current standing in the Islamic world is low, make no mistake about that. The Gulf have decided to divest from Pakistan, and invest in India. I have no doubt that India is willing to (at least secretly) send troops to secure the Arab monarchies in, at least the UAE (if you asked me a few years back, I may have laughed at this very notion).

Pakistan's rejection of joining the Yemen war, has damaged relations between the Arab world and Pakistan (personally? I think that's completely fine).

Strategically, inspite of Pakistan's rejection of joining Yemen war, Pakistan still remains irreplaceable for ME. And the status quo looks set till the forseable future.

The role of mediator no longer applies to Pakistan. This isn't the 60s or 70s, when Pakistan brokered talks between the two. Pakistan is more in the Chinese camp, and the US will never accept Pakistan's role as mediator.

Agreed. But if I'm offered an option of having a fail-safe switch, I'll take it.

 

[cerberus]

Look at the spine of the aircraft in the last pic...guess what kind of secret electronics installed...some say block 52+ EW suit is that much powerful can blind SU.30 from 100 Kms after detection...once blind AIM-120 can do the job easily...they know this feature and rona dhona is quite wajib for them...

Sir F-16 Block 52+ Equipped With AN/ALQ-165 Self-Protection .EW Suite I Can Discuss its Advantage and Disadvantages it will be Spoiler
Next Just read about Facts about EW Suite in Sukhoi-30MKI

 

[Great Sachin]

how about F16 Manufacturing factor

 

[Maarkhoor]

Sir F-16 Block 52+ Equipped With AN/ALQ-165 Self-Protection .EW Suite I Can Discuss its Advantage and Disadvantages it will be Spoiler
Next Just read about Facts about EW Suite in Sukhoi-30MKI

Dear Sir don't trust the material available online....facts are facts...why US so reluctant to sell and place strict restriction on those who operates block 52 +...they are not fools to put each and every secret detail with technical data online so that other hostile nations develop counter measures...if you still want to believe then I can't do any thing...

SU-30 is a average or can say below the average Jet fighter in modern BVR engagements, more on above a fly by wire system is a big mess and I am not saying this because India operates them I am just stating the facts...

 

[cerberus]

Dear Sir don't trust the material available online....facts are facts...why US so reluctant to sell and place strict restriction on those who operates block 52 +...they are not fools to put each and every secret detail with technical data online so that other hostile nations develop counter measures...if you still want to believe then I can't do any thing...

Sir Please Briefly State the Facts you Discussing Here. Secondly F-16 is Product of Private Firm its Ment For Sale.And Without Marketing Its Features And Capabilities of Product you can't Sell them to you Customers .That's how Lockheed Martin Made Sale's of More than F-16's 4500 aircraft's around the World.

SU-30 is a average or can say below the average Jet fighter in modern BVR engagements

We are Discussing Su-30 MKI here.You Don't Have Any Technical Argument To Back up Except Patronizing your National Sentiment Which i Can Understand

more on above a fly by wire system is a big mess and I am not saying this because India operates them I am just stating the facts..

Few Glitches Can't Substantiate Failure of the Product By that Term Entire 5 generation Fighters Platform of that USAF operate will Be Considered as Failure as a System.And M Also just Stating the Facts

 

[Maarkhoor]

Sir Please Briefly State the Facts you Discussing Here. Secondly F-16 is Product of Private Firm its Ment For Sale.And Without Marketing Its Features And Capabilities of Product you can't Sell them to you Customers .That's how Lockheed Martin Made Sale's of More than F-16's 4500 aircraft's around the World.

Again they release data and info to serious buyers with terms and conditions for not to release any info...Lockheed Martin can't approach or market their jets without aproval from the authorities ...

 

[fitpOsitive]

The recent announcement of of Eight more F-16s for the PAF has been cause of much anxiety and depression in the neighbourhood. Albeit Pakistan has been operating the Fighting Falcon for over Thirty years with newer and more capable models being acquired within the last decade, however, the reaction by India to the recent acquisition has been unprecedented. This is all the more scandalous since India currently is one of the top armament purchasing country boasting of fourth largest air force in the world.
But it's also possible that India does have real concerns as the F-16s continue to rattle nerves in New Delhi.
According to Indian writer Pushpinder Singh, the arrival of F-16s in the Sub-continent caused such alarm bells that India in response ended up purchasing no less than 220 assorted fighter jets from Russia and France, hence the latest reaction by India thus shouldn't come as a surprise.
The F-16, the most widely used and combat proven aircraft of recent times has also proved it's tremendous capabilities within the PAF. Soon after bit's arrival in Pakistan in the mid-80s, it was immediately pressed into service against joint Afghan/Soviet threat and in the process shot down no less than a dozen Soviet origin aircraft without a single loss to enemy action, since PAF never disclosed about those aircraft that fell on the other side of the border, so the actual number of victims, which is much higher remains classified.
A PAF F-16 also made history by achieving first night interception and shooting down of an IAF spy drone of Israeli origin in 2002. In 2005, Pratt & Whitney presented a plaque to the PAF in recognition of flying the F-16 for over 100,000 accident free flight hours.

HUD capture of an Afghan SU-22 kill in 1987

A notable incident took place in 2008, when some Indian aircraft in a threatening manner intruded into Pakistan airspace and were promptly intercepted by PAF F-16s and escorted out.
More recently, PAF F-16s have been busy in carrying out strikes against the Taliban near Afghan border with great success. Even during exercises with friendly air forces, the PAF have scored repeated victories against such potent systems as the Euro fighter Typhoons and F-15 Eagles. All in all, since it's induction in PAF, the F-16s have remained geared into action in one form or another, always coming out on the top. It enjoys an unparalleled combat record while most aircraft in the neighbourhood don't have a single combat kill to their name so any wonder even eight F-16s can cause so many ripples.

Bhai ham 5th gen per aakhir kab jaingy? Kab tak f16 jama kerty rahaingy?

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Bhai ham 5th gen per aakhir kab jaingy? Kab tak f16 jama kerty rahaingy?

Sir g abhi 5th Generation except US k ilawa kis country me bnana shuru kia ???
F-22 F-25 = US
J-20 = under development China
J-31 = China under development
PAK-FA= Russian Under development
TAI TFX= Turkish just design Phase
KAI KFX= Korean Design Phase

 

[The Eagle]

Sir g abhi 5th Generation except US k ilawa kis country me bnana shuru kia ???
F-22 F-25 = US
J-20 = under development China
J-31 = China under development
PAK-FA= Russian Under development
TAI TFX= Turkish just design Phase
KAI KFX= Korean Design Phase

For the time being, F-16s par he guzara theek hay by the way, in a video clip from India Media, the lady reporter regarding the deal of 8 new falcons, was calling it 5th gen plane. Happy at the end... and see the impact...

Bhai ham 5th gen per aakhir kab jaingy? Kab tak f16 jama kerty rahaingy?

 

[cerberus]

Again they release data and info to serious buyers with terms and conditions for not to release any info...Lockheed Martin can't approach or market their jets without aproval from the authorities ...

Then you Don't Know How Corporate Actually Work.Secondly Why Lockheed Will Curb the Technology which is almost Outdated in Market today When Rivals Firms already has Outmatched term of Technology

 

[NIA]

Then you Don't Know How Corporate Actually Work.Secondly Why Lockheed Will Curb the Technology which is almost Outdated in Market today When Rivals Firms already has Outmatched term of Technology

If they know how a corporate works , by this time they would have Asia's leading institution/ Industries/MNC firms.
Its simple logic...
Lets take Hero CD100 and Honda activa.
I won't sell Honda Activa even if you are willing to pay 60K ...but will give Hero cd100 at 10K.
You know why....
Those who didn't understand plz don't quote me.

 

[nik141993]

Again they release data and info to serious buyers with terms and conditions for not to release any info...Lockheed Martin can't approach or market their jets without aproval from the authorities ...

Our upgraded MIG 29 & mirage 2000 are technically superior to block 52 forget about MIG 29k & SU 30mki & with arrival of Rafael & probably one more fighter type the strategic balance which is already skewed in Indian favor will get a hyper boost ,instead of fooling yourself thinking that f 16 is some kind of wonder weapon which will help Pakistan getting an edge over India in any aerial engagement keep dreaming ,26 fighters going up against 300 mki ,50+ upgraded mirage almost 100 MIG 29 upgraded + new (all mentioned are superior to block 52 )LMAO!!

 

[Maarkhoor]

Our upgraded MIG 29 & mirage 2000 are technically superior to block 52 forget about MIG 29k & SU 30mki & with arrival of Rafael & probably one more fighter type the strategic balance which is already skewed in Indian favor will get a hyper boost ,instead of fooling yourself thinking that f 16 is some kind of wonder weapon which will help Pakistan getting an edge over India in any aerial engagement keep dreaming ,26 fighters going up against 300 mki ,50+ upgraded mirage almost 100 MIG 29 upgraded + new (all mentioned are superior to block 52 )LMAO!!

Then why this all rona dhona just for eight jets....when you have numbers of superior Jets already in service with you..why you people humiliate your nation just over 8 technically inferior jets...please stand in front of a mirror and ask the same question to your self..u will find a moron a dehati aurat in mirror..

Close it no further replies from me....