Strength of alliance between India-Isreal

[MilSpec]

Why? Not necessary! It's the private companies in the U.S. that build pretty much everything, no need to suppose that Indians can't be trusted unless they are a part of the public sector. The protocol of how such things are to be done needs to be established, that's all!

I agree .. westinghouse mfg's the nuclear reactors for Nimitz class A?C carriers... i dont see why reliance power or tata power cant do the same...

 

[angeldemon_007]

I agree .. westinghouse mfg's the nuclear reactors for Nimitz class A?C carriers... i dont see why reliance power or tata power cant do the same...

Yeah....but this will never happen. MOD is not giving any defense project to private sector and we are talking about nuclear reactors for military use.

 

[Vinod2070]

Yeah....but this will never happen. MOD is not giving any defense project to private sector and we are talking about nuclear reactors for military use.

Yes, these idiots can give the orders to foreign private sector but not Indian private sector!

But things seem to be changing for the better. Slowly.

 

[MilSpec]

Yes, these idiots can give the orders to foreign private sector but not Indian private sector!

But things seem to be changing for the better. Slowly.

Private development needed in following sectors:

Few things we need from future development

Let DRDO compete with private sector for FMBT power pack

Private Players should be given Smerch class MRBL project (TATA's)

Open the market for Small Arms to private sector

IAC1, 2 and 3 propulsion has to be Desi

Marine Engines should be concentrated on ... Let Cummins and KEL fight it out

Let KPCL get involved for Arihant class Air systems

Create competition for Bharat Dynamics

Let Rafael have Joint projects with Indian private sector

Encorage Automotive players to come into Combat engineering

Open Nuclear Markets to Reliance/ Tata/NTPC

An significant observation is Indian government does not let its own PSU's compete with each other. Give HAL a freehand to engage Bharat dynamics and OFB.. HAL has worked with GSH 301 shipunavs/R77/R23'Defa 30mms/ Matra/etc . They have ample knowledge of these systems. If they can engineer side projects for competing in the army and Navy, let them. Also Let PSU companies NTPC and SAIL Diversify into Defence markets. Competition will get the best out of these PSU's sector giants

 

[Vinod2070]

^^ Agree. Let them compete or vanish.

 

[angeldemon_007]

Let DRDO compete with private sector for FMBT power pack

I raised this point recently on a thread. Let DRDO come up with arjun mk3 for FMBT and a completely new design based on DGMF and private sector should be there to compete because through this we might get a better product.

We are facing so many problems in artillery. M777 couldn't pass the test. We should have given our requirement to Mahindra or Ashok leyland and they would have come up with a solution to meet our needs.

FICV is good approach. IA is also on the verge to buy 800 light armored vehicles and also some 300 light tanks. Our companies have good tie ups atleast for land based systems like artillery, mbt, armored and reconnaissance vehicles and also in helicopters.

 

[Vinod2070]

^^ There are a lot of companies coming up in aviation as well. Small startups, doing a couple of hundred crores in business with global giants like Boeing and Airbus already.

If they are supported with orders, they can do wonders in quick order.

 

[elite]

You guys eradicated Buddhism from India...

Now you are talking on behalf of Buddhism!!!!!!

then have the audacity to talk about tolerance and complain of the Muslim conquest.

You are saying this because Pakistan is an ally of China and Chinese people are of Buddhism religion??????? Man.....you just did your literature course with no practical sense.

but militant Hinduism did not tolerate it's existance.

Any religion cant be militant.....So your credibility is nothing but a zero.....
India is a completely different country....You will never understand that....It has got all religions and every religion is peacefully living in India......
But all you can do is that you can sit in a militant base and say something like that......

Note : Developereo can claim anything e.g. militant Hinduism. Next day he would claim militant christian....militant Buddhism etc.....But only an illiterate person can claim a religion as militant what no member in defence.pk ever claimed....

Guys.....back to topic please....

 

[TheStrantrunCurve]

Really....

Every word you write stinks of your fear for secularism...

You desperately keep trying to labels us of islamophobia... there is a valid reason for that... The day pakistan will believe that Islam is secure in indian secular democracy... pakistans existence looses credibility... if you believe we are not islamophobic then the burden of dictatorial debauchery and political trickery you have endured since 47 looses justification.... Existence of Secular India will prove that creation of Pakistan a "stupid mistake".

Hence you want us to hate muslims.... You want to glorify hindu Extremism or else your idea of nation is defeated.

Indo - Israel relation is based on strong defence ties...

Again let me specify... INDIA AND ISRAEL are both victims of STATE SPONSORED TERRORISM and not islamophobia...
Post Cold war geo political reallignment would result in extensive ties between Indo-Israel, indo-Euro and Indo-US ties... If you see all of that with your narrow prism of anti-Islamic motives then you need to broaden your thinking... you have a lot to learn

How is India secular when the second largest party over there is hindu nationalist and has even ruled india for some time. Pakistan is more secular than India, where no religious party has ever got to rule pakistan, even the most conservative province in pakistan voted for secular party. Pakistan is a moderate and liberal country, and attacks on minorities only started after 911, where in india it is an everyday occurrence.

 

[elite]

How is India secular when the second largest party over there is hindu nationalist and has even ruled india for some time. Pakistan is more secular than India, where no religious party has ever got to rule pakistan, even the most conservative province in pakistan voted for secular party. Pakistan is a moderate and liberal country, and attacks on minorities only started after 911, where in india it is an everyday occurrence.

You dont know the meaning of it.....

Go to the link below.....
Secular State

Where it says -
A secular state is a concept of secularism, whereby a state or country purports to be officially neutral in matters of religion, supporting neither religion nor irreligion.[1] A secular state also claims to treat all its citizens equally regardless of religion, and claims to avoid preferential treatment for a citizen from a particular religion/nonreligion over other religions/nonreligion. Secular states do not have a state religion or equivalent, although the absence of a state religion does not guarantee that a state is secular.

So India is a secular state whereas Pakistan is not....

 

[TheStrantrunCurve]

You dont know the meaning of it.....

Go to the link below.....


Where it says -
A secular state is a concept of secularism, whereby a state or country purports to be officially neutral in matters of religion, supporting neither religion nor irreligion.[1] A secular state also claims to treat all its citizens equally regardless of religion, and claims to avoid preferential treatment for a citizen from a particular religion/nonreligion over other religions/nonreligion. Secular states do not have a state religion or equivalent, although the absence of a state religion does not guarantee that a state is secular.

So India is a secular state whereas Pakistan is not....

India is only secular by constitution but in reality its Hindu state, Indian state actually privileges Hinduism over other religions and religious communities. The Indian state is in fact the defender of the dharma for at least five reasons.

Your answer has been answered in indian news site.
Why India Is Not A Secular State in outlook

 

[elite]

India is only secular by constitution but in reality its Hindu state, Indian state actually privileges Hinduism over other religions and religious communities. The Indian state is in fact the defender of the dharma for at least five reasons.

Your answer has been answered in indian news site.
Why India Is Not A Secular State in outlook

So what???? Only few such news never prove that India is not a secular state....Moreover India is never declared as Hindu state...all religions are equal in India....But Pakistan is declared as Muslim state.....So Pakistan is never a secular state.....and India is more more secular than Pakistan....

Yes I agree....majority is hindu.....but also 14% population of India is muslim which is quite large and its increasing day by day....Can you give me any details how many hindu people in Pakistan??? only 2% or even less....This has been discussed in several threads thousand of times....


Bro....This thread is Strength of alliance between India-Isreal
We can discuss that in a separate thread "Which is secular state - India or Pakistan???"

 

[MilSpec]

How is India secular when the second largest party over there is hindu nationalist and has even ruled india for some time. Pakistan is more secular than India, where no religious party has ever got to rule pakistan, even the most conservative province in pakistan voted for secular party. Pakistan is a moderate and liberal country, and attacks on minorities only started after 911, where in india it is an everyday occurrence.

Education helps...

 

[angeldemon_007]

There are a lot of companies coming up in aviation as well. Small startups, doing a couple of hundred crores in business with global giants like Boeing and Airbus already.

If they are supported with orders, they can do wonders in quick order.

Yeah.....i said land defense system and helicopter because there these companies can build a whole new product while in aerospace sector minus helicopter, i don't think our companies are in a position to develop a whole new fighter jet or military transport aircraft or reconnaissance aircraft etc.
In aerospace sector this offset is not working as we want it to work.

 

[Asian.Century]

Arabs and Middle Eastern countries should soak their heads in hot sand, while welcoming Indians in millions to work in Arab states. And Arabs trading oil and gas with India...while these two countries occupies Kashmir and Palestine.