Soviet Russia helped to get China in Nuclear , Space , Missile technology

[ChineseTiger1986]

USSR helped setting up PRC in China,after that tried to maintain this state of their own creation,which caused immense subsequent suffering of the Chinese nation,cutting off China from embarking the path of developing the country's economy.China missed at least 3 decades of the best time to develop the country while other Asian neighbors took the opportunity to leave China behind.if USSR didn't play any role in China's civil war,China could be united peacefully and by now would have been the world's number one economy for decades already. by interfering China's internal affairs,Russia took Mongolia away from China and is the direct cause of China's division now we still have to face ,suffer and deal..Russia caused the immense territorial loss to China,and yes Mao's crazy policy cause a immeasurable damage but without Russia ,he couldn't be there to make all those happen.

Does India need that kind of help?setting up a Maoist government in India,creating and supporting an Indian Mao,taking a big chunk of your land away and making India experience what happened to the Chinese people during mid last century?

Stop blaming Mao, USSR wanted to make China a vassal state, but Mao refused to bow down.

And OP is ignorant, USSR was against a nuclearized China, and nor China's space program was contributed by USSR.

Professor Qian Xuesen was a graduate from USA, not from USSR.

China's space program was in fact more closely related to the US one.


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[NiceGuy]

Stop bringing Vietcong into it. I'm not talking about geo-strategy. I'm talking about technology development. China has the money and it would be able to copy and paste. In about 20 years, the Europeans and Russians would be all copied over. That would left US as the only country that has more advance technology than China. China in 10 years would have the most money and the most technologically advance country usually are the wealthiest. However, it would still be generations for China to catch up to US as US is way advance as compare to China. And all other countries are trying to "copy" US technological leadership and the one with the most money will copy faster.

When Russia cut off China's oil route, then China cant develop anymore. Just like u cant live and do anything when u have No food to eat

 

[Gautam]

Russia help India
Russia help China

US help China
US help Pakistan

then
China help Pakistan
and then India Pakistan fight
what a great equation!!

 

[beijingwalker]

Stop blaming Mao, USSR wanted to make China a vassal state, but Mao refused to bow down.

Mao was a very controversial figure in Chinese history,I m not here to pass judgement,but one thing is for sure,without USSR,he and his party couldn't be able to ascend to power thus the whole modern Chinese history would be changed.it would give China at least 30 more years for developing the country's economy,so you can guess what the result would be.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Mao was a very controversial figure in Chinese history,I m not here to pass judgement,but one thing is for sure,without USSR,he and his party couldn't be able to ascend to power thus the whole modern Chinese history would be changed.it would give China at least 30 more years for developing the country's economy,so you can guess what the result would be.

USSR never liked Mao's CPC from the beginning, they supported KMT over CPC, they also supported India over PRC during the 1962 border conflict.

You also underestimate KMT's support from USSR.

Mao was responsible for building up the foundation of China's military industry from null, he was a great leader despite he made some mistake later.

 

[beijingwalker]

USSR never liked Mao's CPC from the beginning, they supported KMT over CPC, they also supported India over PRC during the 1962 border conflict.

You also underestimate KMT's support from USSR.

Mao was responsible for building up the foundation of China's military industry from null, he was a great leader despite he made some mistake later.

That's only superficial,USSR made the CCP and for decades directly controlled it.after defeating Japan in Manchuria,Russian left all the equipments to CCP and summoned CCP troops to go to Manchuria to take over the land.Manchuria was the very base where CCP started to conquer the whole country.

 

[Punjabbi Munda]

^^^

Nobody cares about your findings.

The only thing people see today is India is dirt poor.

Were you born retarded or the fake flag trolling made you one?

 

[beijingwalker]

Mao was responsible for building up the foundation of China's military industry from null, he was a great leader despite he made some mistake later.

any leader happens to be in that top post at that time would do the same job.I have no interest talking about him,all I want to say is that he was a very controversial figure.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

That's only superficial,USSR made the CCP and for decades directly controlled it.after defeating Japan in Manchuria,Russian left all the equipments to CCP and summoned CCP troops to go to Manchuria to take over the land.Manchuria was the very base where CCP started to conquer the whole country.

True, USSR was responsible for creating CPC, but after Mao took in charge, USSR hated him gut, because he was not a Soviet puppet like Wang Ming.

And do you think those crappy Japanese army equipment was a match against those the sophisticate American equipment from the KMT army? USSR provided those crappy Japanese equipment to PLA was just 杯水车薪 to CPC's victory over KMT's mechanized equiment from USA.

And there was no free meal, China fought with the lives of its own soldiers to gain the favor from USSR.

The lives of our brave soldiers during the Korean War had returned the industrial assistance from USSR.

USSR was devastated during the WWII against the Nazi Germany, they needed the time to take the recovery and to acquire the nuclear weapons, while USA had already planned to nuke them into submission just like they did to Japan.

The Korean War had helped USSR to deviate the attention from USA, but China has put its own risk of getting nuked. China fought the Korean and won, that's why USSR finally agreed to aid China's industry.

 

[vostok]

As far as I know, Mao even offered Stalin to take China into the Soviet Union. But Stalin refused 9because of demography). Of course, the Soviet Union played a major role in the foundation of modern China. There was such a Russian song of those times:
Russian and Chinese are brothers forever
There is a growing unity of peoples and races ...

After Stalin death relations getting worse and worse...

 

[beijingwalker]

True, USSR was responsible for creating of CPC, but after Mao took in charge, USSR hated him gut, because he was not a Soviet puppet like Wang Ming.

And do you think those crappy Japanese army equipment was a match against those the sophisticate American equipment from the KMT army? USSR provided those crappy Japanese equipment to PLA was just 杯水车薪 to CPC's victory over KMT's mechanized equiment from USA.

And there was no free meal, China fought with the lives of its own soldiers to gain the favor from USSR.

The lives of our brave soldiers Korean War had returned the industrial assistance from USSR.

USSR was devastated during the WWII against the Nazi Germany, they needed the time to take the recovery and to acquire the nuclear weapons, while USA had already planned to nuke them into submission just like they did to Japan.

The Korean War had helped USSR to deviate the attention from USA, but China has put its own risk of getting nuked. China fought the Korean and won, that's why USSR finally agreed to aid China's industry.

let's agree to disagree on some issues,but we both agree on the fact that Russians only helped themselves.and China,as a great nation,could be better off if not having those foreign "helps"and interference.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

As far as I know, Mao even offered Stalin to take China into the Soviet Union. But Stalin refused 9because of demography). Of course, the Soviet Union played a major role in the development of modern China. There was such a Russian song of those times:
Russian and Chinese are brothers forever
There is a growing unity of peoples and races ...

After Stalin death relations getting worse and worse...

Well, Mao only wanted to maintain a brotherhood relationship with USSR, but China was a huge country itself, it can never be merged into USSR.

The only Soviet leader who could maintain a truly peaceful relationship with China was Lenin, while Stalin was already pretty rude to China, but Mao had tried to tolerate it, the other Soviet leaders didn't know how to maintain the Communist doctrine anymore.

In their mind, only a military race with USA matter the most.

 

[beijingwalker]

the relations between China and Russia now are the best,mutually respect each other and never try to interfere with each other's internal affairs.

 

[vostok]

Well, Mao only wanted to maintain a brotherhood relationship with USSR, but China was a huge country itself, it can never be merged into USSR.

The only Soviet leader who could maintain a truly peaceful relationship with China was Lenin, while Stalin was already pretty rude to China, but Mao had tried to tolerate it, the other Soviet leaders didn't know how to maintain the Communist doctrine anymore.

In their mind, only a military race with USA matter the most.

Lenin died in 1924 when no Communist China were yet.
The race with the U.S. made possible to other socialist countries to develop peacefully. You think just because of pride the Soviet leaders were spending huge amounts of money on defense? No. This was done in order to protect socialism. Otherwise, Americans would just bombed one country after another - as they do now, when there is no one to give them a hard nut to crack.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

the relations between China and Russia now are the best,mutually respect each other and never try to interfere with each other's internal affairs.

Yeah, China and Russia have currently the best geopolitical relationship, much better than the era of USSR.

There is dogmatic international ideology anymore, China will maintain as a communist country, while Russia can still be a capitalist country, but it won't bother the geopolitical relationship between these two countries.