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do you have proof Vietnamese are part of Baiyue?Yue=/= Viet
Despite what EastSea says the Yue state of Goujian has nothing to do with the Yue of Vietnam.
I already stated that the there was no pan-Yue identity back then.
Not all Baiyue's are Vietnamese but Vietnamese are part of the Baiyue.
Prove that the Yue in Guangdong and Guangxi ever identified with the people living in Northern Vietnam.
Zhao Tuo was ethnically Chinese nothing you say changes this.
Yet Zhao Tuo groveled and was willing to be a Han vassal his willingness to cease his attack on Changsha state of Wu Rui shows his submission.
Nanyue governed itself,autonomy doesn't make it Vietnamese.
Bronze drums disappeared after the Zhao Tuo and his progeny ruled according to Keiji Imamura.
The termination of Dong Son is another controversial issue in Vietnamese archaeology. It is generally accepted that the Dong Son assemblages were replaced by Han assemblages after the Han invasion. Since data from the Han tombs in Guangzhou (CPAM 1991) have been published, Han style burials have become more easily recognizable and dateable. In the Early Historical period (post Dong Son), burials and artefacts changed drastically and citadels and large burial groups appeared, as a result of centralization and the introduction of Chinese political divisions. However, as Imamura (1993) and Yoshikai (1997) have observed, Dong Son artifacts, including drums, continued to be used and adopted into Han-style surroundings
LOL @ the VN foreign minister
this why I asked about Viet Thuong ages ago but no one know about itAs a way to signify that this new domain covered both of these areas, the Nguyễn ruling elite chose to combine the character “Nam” from “An Nam” with the “Việt” in “Việt Thường” to create the new name, “Nam Việt” 南越.
After urging the Qing emperor to not approve usage of the name “Nam Việt,” Sun Yuting later noted in a memorial to the throne that in addition to the above meaning, “Việt Nam,” which can literally mean “South of the Việt/Yue,” was also a good name because it indicated that this domain was south of the area where the “Hundred Việt/Yue” (百越, Bách Việt/Baiyue) had once lived, that is, the large region stretching from Zhejiang province through Fujian, Guangdong and Guangxi provinces. This comment again demonstrated Sun Yuting’s concern with possible threats to the region under his jurisdiction, Guangxi province (Qing shilu, Jiaqing reign, 111/11b).