South Korea compares Japan's 'rising sun' flag to swastika as Olympic row deepens

[Pakhtoon yum]

Japan was wrong it's the end of that. The flag has political and genocidal issues, so should be kept out of sports.

Imjin War? So you're reaching back over 400 years ago now.

Do us all a favor and quit world history

Japan was a genocidal maniac, just drop it now. I've written a university paper on this situation and I dont feel like making you look like a fool.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Imjin War? So you're reaching back over 400 years ago now.

Do us all a favor and quit world history

Its called "history" for a reason.

Oh wait, your education doesn't extend that far?
Its sad because it is Japan that needs to learn from history. History of violence and coveting their neighbours riches.That volcanic archipelago is so prone to earthquakes and tsunamis, a shame if history and nature were to run its patterned course.

hehe

Japan was wrong it's the end of that. The flag has political and genocidal issues, so should be kept out of sports.


Japan was a genocidal maniac, just drop it now. I've written a university paper on this situation and I dont feel like making you look like a fool.

They know their history but its better for them to have selective amnesia and hide from the shame.

 

[Suika]

Japan was wrong it's the end of that. The flag has political and genocidal issues, so should be kept out of sports.


Japan was a genocidal maniac, just drop it now. I've written a university paper on this situation and I dont feel like making you look like a fool.

All a bluff unless you walk down the road with details.

Its called "history" for a reason.

Oh wait, your education doesn't extend that far?
Its sad because it is Japan that needs to learn from history. History of violence and coveting their neighbours riches.That volcanic archipelago is so prone to earthquakes and tsunamis, a shame if history and nature were to run its patterned course.

hehe



They know their history but its better for them to have selective amnesia and hide from the shame.

You have contributed no history in this thread at all.

CKS was kidnapped in December 1936 and brought upon the Chinese communist and they agreed to form a united front against Japan. However, at this time, war with Japan had not started. The Nazi Germany built up CKS army made its preparations for war with Japan, started making trouble along the border with Japanese forces, totally ignoring British controlled Hong Kong fro some reason, and fired the first shot at the Marco Polo bridge in July 1937. The stupid war was initiated more so by CKS and the Chinese communists. The Japanese escalated by decided to capture Nanjing the capital. Both sides were a cause to the war. However by 1938, Wang Jingwei wanted to end the war. CKS did not. Wang Jingwei switched to the Japanese side and took top position of the Chinese government under Japanese controlled territory and was given its own army. Had Japan been so bad in Japanese controlled areas, then such Chinese development of the Wang regime couldn't have happened. Had CKS agreed to end the war instead of dragging it out year after year until 1945, millions of Chinese would have not lost their lives. You can keep ignoring how CKS armies had brutal and deadly recruitment campaign. If the Chinese were so anti-Japan, why was recruitment so difficult? With such wretched recruitment policies, it comes as no surprise how US forces in Burma had find the Nationalists Chinese near worthless. A hint to the massive corruption of the Nationalists and foreshadowed their defeat later in the hands of the Chinese communists. However when all is said and done, it was the Mao communists government that killed more Chinese people than either CKS or the Japanese side.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

All a bluff unless you walk down the road with details.

I've read letters of your late ambassador and the US president, countless academic books and articles, but I guess you are dedicated to make yourself look like a fool.

Its called "history" for a reason.

Oh wait, your education doesn't extend that far?
Its sad because it is Japan that needs to learn from history. History of violence and coveting their neighbours riches.That volcanic archipelago is so prone to earthquakes and tsunamis, a shame if history and nature were to run its patterned course.

hehe



They know their history but its better for them to have selective amnesia and hide from the shame.

Japan killed millions of innocent civilians and they havent paid for it yet. Shame on china for still tolerating this

 

[Suika]

I've read letters of your late ambassador and the US president, countless academic books and articles, but I guess you are dedicated to make yourself look like a fool.

Hurry up and prove me wrong.

One principle that I do keep in the back of mind is that there could be information that I have yet to learn and that my conclusions are still yet not based off of complete enough knowledge. So I do sometimes try to take a humble approach when making an argument. But its been many years and many trolls so, I'm feeling quite confident.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

All a bluff unless you walk down the road with details.



You have contributed no history in this thread at all.

CKS was kidnapped in December 1936 and brought upon the Chinese communist and they agreed to form a united front against Japan. However, at this time, war with Japan had not started. The Nazi Germany built up CKS army made its preparations for war with Japan, started making trouble along the border with Japanese forces, totally ignoring British controlled Hong Kong fro some reason, and fired the first shot at the Marco Polo bridge in July 1937. The stupid war was initiated more so by CKS and the Chinese communists. The Japanese escalated by decided to capture Nanjing the capital. Both sides were a cause to the war. However by 1938, Wang Jingwei wanted to end the war. CKS did not. Wang Jingwei switched to the Japanese side and took top position of the Chinese government under Japanese controlled territory and was given its own army. HAd Japan been so bad in Japanese controlled areas, then such Chinese development of the Wang regime couldn't have happened. Had CKS agreed to end the war instead of dragging it out year after year until 1945. Millions of Chinese would have not lost their lives. You can keep ignoring how CKS armies had brutal and deadly recruitment campaign. If the Chinese were so anti-Japan, were was recruitment so difficult? With such wretched recruitment policies, it comes as no surprise how US forces in Burma had find the Nationalists Chinese near worthless. A hint to the massive corruption of the Nationalists and foreshadowed their defeat later in the hands of the Chinese communists. However when all is said and done, it was the Mao communists government that killed more Chinese people than either CKS or the Japanese side.

HAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What did I just say about naccism and gas lighting?

Im not even going to bother to fix that disaster of a piece you just wrote, its embarrassingly bad.

Reported for fake history!

 

[Suika]

HAHAHHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What did I just say about naccism and gas lighting?

Im not even going to bother to fix that disaster of a piece you just wrote, its embarrassingly bad.

Reported for fake history!

I don't understand what so funny.

So much bluffing going on. Its depressing.

Fake laughing for the sake of stubbornness.

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Playing the victim and lying as usual. Its pathetic and embarassing.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Hurry up and prove me wrong.

One principle that I do keep in the back of mind is that there could be information that I have yet to learn and that my conclusions are still yet not based off of complete enough knowledge. So I do sometimes try to take a humble approach when making an argument. But its been many years and many trolls so, I'm feeling quite confident.

Give proof about Japanese mass genocides and illegal occupation of manchuria, fueled by false flag attacks?

All a bluff unless you walk down the road with details.



You have contributed no history in this thread at all.

CKS was kidnapped in December 1936 and brought upon the Chinese communist and they agreed to form a united front against Japan. However, at this time, war with Japan had not started. The Nazi Germany built up CKS army made its preparations for war with Japan, started making trouble along the border with Japanese forces, totally ignoring British controlled Hong Kong fro some reason, and fired the first shot at the Marco Polo bridge in July 1937. The stupid war was initiated more so by CKS and the Chinese communists. The Japanese escalated by decided to capture Nanjing the capital. Both sides were a cause to the war. However by 1938, Wang Jingwei wanted to end the war. CKS did not. Wang Jingwei switched to the Japanese side and took top position of the Chinese government under Japanese controlled territory and was given its own army. Had Japan been so bad in Japanese controlled areas, then such Chinese development of the Wang regime couldn't have happened. Had CKS agreed to end the war instead of dragging it out year after year until 1945, millions of Chinese would have not lost their lives. You can keep ignoring how CKS armies had brutal and deadly recruitment campaign. If the Chinese were so anti-Japan, were was recruitment so difficult? With such wretched recruitment policies, it comes as no surprise how US forces in Burma had find the Nationalists Chinese near worthless. A hint to the massive corruption of the Nationalists and foreshadowed their defeat later in the hands of the Chinese communists. However when all is said and done, it was the Mao communists government that killed more Chinese people than either CKS or the Japanese side.

That was japanese propaganda a false flag attack. Used to give justification for further occupation. This is well recorded

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

Give proof about Japanese mass genocides and illegal occupation of manchuria, fueled by false flag attacks?


That was japanese propaganda a false flag attack. Used to give justification for further occupation. This is well recorded

Don't respond to his fake history. He knows it fake but he's trying to spread it.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Don't respond to his fake history. He knows it fake but he's trying to spread it.

Hes a facist

 

[Suika]

Playing the victim and lying as usual. Its pathetic and embarassing.

So watching some of it, at around 5:30, he actually does point out the Fangtian clique in Manchuria and how it was sort of China-ish. So that wasn't so bad. He still missed the Soviet Union attack on it in 1929 though. He also missed that the economy went bust in 1928.

When he got to Nanking, I started getting suspicious for his source. Checked his video description hoping for a source citation. And sure enough there it is.. Iris Chang's book. Its an overblown exaggeration and totally unhistorical. The book received much criticism for not being approached by appropriate historical methodology. The "criticism" part of the article is rather lengthy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rape_of_Nanking_(book) I do still consider the rape and massacre at Nanking to be a war crime, but clearly what he is saying in the video is reflected on what he read in her book. I find it interesting that she committed suicide at such a young age. Usually, intellectual historians don't go committing suicide. From what I can gather about the Nanking massacre in another thread where no one has provided further information, contrary to the bluffing going on now. https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/if-j...ad-of-the-british.609701/page-7#post-11331236

Hes a facist

You're a bluffing troll.

Don't respond to his fake history. He knows it fake but he's trying to spread it.

Shameless coward.

 

[beijingwalker]

Japan killed millions of innocent civilians and they havent paid for it yet. Shame on china for still tolerating this

We are not monsters, heartless Japanese parents left behind their children in thousands in China and scrambled to flee back to Japan after Japan's surrender in fear of Chinese seeking revenge cause they knew the atrocities and the crimes against humanity they committed, but we took their children home and raise them up, sent them to school even we didn't have enough food to feed ourselves after the devastation of the war Japan imposed on us. We are forgiving people with a good heart, but what kind of parents those Japanese were, despicable indeed.

Chinese premier receive Japanese war orphan delegation coming back to China

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

We are not monsters, heartless Japanese parents left behind their children in thousands in China and scrambled to flee back to Japan after Japan's surrender in fear of Chinese seeking revenge cause they knew the atrocities and the crimes against humanity they committed, but we took their children home and raise them up, sent them to school even we didn't have enough food to feed ourselves after the devastation of the war Japan imposed on us. We are forgiving people with a good heart, but what kind of parents those Japanese were, despicable indeed.

Chinese premier receive Japanese war orphan delegation coming back to China

Please dont spread propaganda. After the Chinese took manchuria, they also committed atrocities

So watching some of it, at around 5:30, he actually does point out the Fangtian clique in Manchuria and how it was sort of China-ish. So that wasn't so bad. He still missed the Soviet Union attack on it in 1929 though. He also missed that the economy went bust in 1928.

When he got to Nanking, I started getting suspicious for his source. Checked his video description hoping for a source citation. And sure enough there it is.. Iris Chang's book. Its an overblown exaggeration and totally unhistorical. The book received much criticism for not being approached by appropriate historical methodology. The "criticism" part of the article is rather lengthy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rape_of_Nanking_(book) I do still consider the rape and massacre at Nanking to be a war crime, but clearly what he is saying in the video is reflected on what he read in her book. I find it interesting that she committed suicide at such a young age. Usually, intellectual historians don't go committing suicide. From what I can gather about the Nanking massacre in another thread where no one has provided further information, contrary to the bluffing going on now. https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/if-j...ad-of-the-british.609701/page-7#post-11331236



You're a bluffing troll.



Shameless coward.

Bluffing how? By showing you Japan's ugly reflection?

 

[beijingwalker]

Please dont spread propaganda. After the Chinese took manchuria, they also committed atrocities

Chinese took Manchuria? you know Manchuria was populated almost a 100% by the Chinese, don't you? If you mean Chinese committed atrocities against Chinese, I guess that's what the west has been claiming all the time, nothing new. they never say anything about the Chinese government lifted 1 billion people out of poverty or things like that.