South China Sea Forum

[cochine]

Please read slowly and carefully, for the meaning of the statement may go above your head.

"This is not a political position" - Putin

what is important in his statement here ?

I quote for you:

"We of course have our own opinion on this matter. It is that, first of all, we do not interfere and we believe that any intervention of a non-regional power goes only to the detriment of settling these issues. The intervention of third-party non-regional powers, in my opinion, is harmful and counterproductive," he added.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/world/20160905/1044988523/russia-china-putin.html

So why, I said that Russia would like to use China to counter USA's pivot in Asia. purely.

 

[yusheng]

Passive-source ocean bottom seismograph （OBS） array experiment in South China Sea and data quality
analyses


《中国科学通报：英文版》2014年 第33月 | Chenguang Liu Qingfeng Hua Yanliang Pei Ting Yang Shaohong Xia Mei Xue Ba Manh Le Da Huo Fang Liu Haibo Huang College of Marine Geosciences Ocean University of China Qingdao 266100 China The First Institute of Oceanography State OceanicAdministration Qingdao 266061 China State Key Laboratory of Marine Geology Tongji University Shanghai 200092 China South China Sea Institute of Oceanology Chinese Academy ofSciences Guangzhou 510301 China

 

[cirr]

Our friends in the SCS will surely welcome this with open arms

New ship for CCG

 

[cochine]

Japan providing PH with 2 large patrol ships, 5 surveillance aircraft

September 6, 2016 Gloria Seloza Nation 0

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Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, during his meeting with President Rodrigo Duterte, agreed to supply the Philippines with two large-sized patrol ships and lend up to five used surveillance aircraft to the Philippines, according to Reuters’ report quoting a Japanese government spokesman. The two leaders met before the official start of ASEAN Summit and Related Meetings in Vientiane, Laos.

They agreed on the necessity of continuing law enforcement cooperation and projects which will strengthen maritime capabilities of the Philippines.

Japan, through Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA), has granted the Philippine government Official Development Assistance (ODA) Loan for the first phase of Maritime Safety Capability Improvement Project for the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG) in 2013.

The said project is providing the PCG with 10 44-meter Multi-Role Response Vessels (MRRVs). The first MRRV was already delivered, succeeding deliveries are expected every quarter until completion of 10 units in 2018.

The phase 2 of Maritime Safety Capability Improvement Project for PCG will cover the 2 Japan-made 92-meter heavy-weather, high endurance MRRVs.

http://www.update.ph/2016/09/japan-...rge-patrol-ships-5-surveillance-aircraft/9153

(Mod, I think this news is related SCS dispute)

 

[cochine]

Russian experts talk legal path to peace, stability in East Sea

PANO - Friday, September 09, 2016, 19:26 (GMT+7)

Leading Russian experts and researchers on Asia-Pacific discussed how a legal path helps secure to peace and stability in the East Sea at a round-table workshop in Moscow on September 8.

They agreed that the ruling issued by the Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) in The Hague, the Netherlands on July 12, confirms China’s sovereignty declaration in the East Sea has no legal foundation.

At the workshop
Secretary General of the International Institute for Peace Grigory Lokshin, an expert from the Russian Academy of Sciences’ Institute of Far Eastern Studies, said the ruling is the clearest explanation for regulations under the UN 1982 Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS).

The PCA’s decision has become a prerequisite condition and laid down a legal foundation for the regional involved parties to push ahead with dialogues and cooperation in the coming time, he added.

Meanwhile, Pavel Gudev, Senior Research Fellow at the Primakov Institute of World Economy and International Relations (IMEMO), said China’s claims were based on no legal foundation and even violated international norms and law.

The ruling provides extra legal power for countries in the East Sea to forge ahead with bilateral and multilateral negotiations, which, he said, are the only legal path to regional peace and stability.

Participants suggested the involved parties seek measures to address disputes peacefully and without use or threat to use forces and in line with international law, especially the UNCLOS 1992.

They agreed that any disputes in the East Sea are unbeneficial for Russia as both Vietnam and China are strategic partners of Russia.

Ancient maps of Vietnam, France, China and other countries were screened during the workshop, which show China has no historical evidence supporting its sovereignty claims in the East Sea and reaffirm Hoang Sa (Paracel) and Truong Sa (Spratly) archipelagos belong to Vietnam.

Source: VNA

 

[JSCh]

Sunday, September 11, 2016, 15:50
China, Russia to hold navy drill in S. China Sea
By Xinhua

This May 26, 2014 photo shows Russian guided missile cruiser Varyag, the flagship of Russia's Pacific fleet, berths in a port in Shanghai on May 26, 2014, after taking part in a joint military drill with China. A China-Russia eight-day Navy drill will begin in the South China Sea off southern China's Guangdong Province on Sept 12, 2016. (Photo / AFP)

BEIJING – China and Russia will hold an eight-day Navy drill in the South China Sea off southern China's Guangdong Province starting Monday, a Chinese Navy spokesperson said Sunday.

The drill, "Joint Sea-2016," will feature Navy surface ships, submarines, fixed-wing aircraft, ship-borne helicopters marine corps and amphibious armored equipment from both navies, according to spokesperson Liang Yang.

Most of the Chinese participants will come from the Nanhai Fleet under the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN).

Together, Chinese and Russian participants will undertake defense, rescue, and anti-submarine operations, in addition to joint-island seizing missions and other activities, Liang said.

The marine corps, in particular, will carry out live-fire drills, sea crossing and island landing operations, and island defense and offense exercises among others, he said.

Liang said the drill, from Sept 12, is part of an annual program, which aims to consolidate and advance the Sino-Russian comprehensive strategic partnership of coordination, and deepen friendly and practical cooperation between the two militaries.

It will also improve coordination between the two navies on joint defense operations at sea, he said.

Earlier reports in July quoted a Chinese Defense Ministry spokesperson as saying that the drill "does not target any third party."

The annual China-Russia joint naval exercise is the fifth of its kind between the two countries since 2012. The drills were held in 2012 in the Yellow Sea; off the coast of Russia's Far East in 2013; and in the East China Sea in 2014.

In 2015, the drill was conducted in two phases: in the Mediterranean in May and then in the Peter the Great Gulf, the waters off the Clerk Cape, and the Sea of Japan in late August.

 

[cochine]

RUSSIA, CHINA TO HOLD WAR GAMES IN WEST PHILIPPINE SEA
Posted on September 12, 2016

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A joint naval exercise that lasts up to eight days has started yesterday in the West Philippine Sea – headed by China and Russia. This is the first drill by any country in the contested waters since an international tribunal rejected Beijing’s historic claims to the resource-rich sea.

The naval drills, the first by Russia and China in the South China Sea, will be held off southern China’s Guangdong Province, and was reportedly “not close to Beijing’s nine-dash line which was struck down by the arbitration court in The Hague in July in a case brought by the Philippines over Beijing’s maritime claims there,” said PTI of Firstpost.

The drills were “routine” and not directed at any other countries according to Chinese Navy in a statement on Sunday.

Meanwhile, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan along with the Philippines, contest China’s claims over the South China Sea.

http://tankler.com/russia-china-to-hold-war-games-in-west-philippine-sea-7699

 

[ahojunk]

There are no permanent allies, only permanent interests. What Great Britain did was just looking after their own interests.

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The Great Game: Is Britain playing both sides in China-Vietnam standoff?
Published time: 9 Sep, 2016 15:33
Edited time: 9 Sep, 2016 15:50

Chinese naval vessels participate in a drill on the East China Sea.

Just a day after the UK pledged to bolster its support for Vietnam, the British government has promised China almost identical defense cooperation – despite the fact that the two Asian nations are teetering on the edge of a potential armed standoff.

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon met with his Chinese counterpart, Chang Wanquan, in London on Thursday on the sidelines of an international conference on UN peacekeeping.

Hours earlier, it was reported that a similar agreement had been reached with military officials from China’s fierce local rival, Vietnam.

China reportedly said it would like to deepen ties with Britain and increase military exchanges – almost identical pledges to those made between Ministry of Defence (MoD) minister Earl Howe and Vietnam’s Deputy Defense Minister Nguyen Chi Vinh just prior to the conference.

“We should make our military relations a critical growth pole for our bilateral relations,” Chang told Fallon, according to the Xinhua news agency.

Vietnam is currently engaged in a stand-off with China over its island building efforts in the South China Sea. The Hague recently ruled that by building what are effectively military outposts in the region of the Spratly Islands, China is violating international law.

Besides the goodwill of India and attempts to nurture relations with the UK, Vietnam recently received a pledge from Japan to provide it with patrol ships to better conduct maritime law enforcement operations.

From a Western perspective, the discussion comes at a time when the US, with Britain on its coat-tails, is looking to reorganize its strategic disposition to meet the challenge of a rising China – a phenomenon known in academic circles as the “pivot to Asia.”

In April, UK military chiefs were handed an £800 million budget boost as they were considering creating new bases in the former British protectorate of Oman and beyond in order to re-establish British power east of the Suez Canal. China has established a major base in nearby Djibouti.

In a statement, Fallon lauded his department’s £35.1 billion budget windfall – its first increase in six years.

“Nothing is more important than defending our country and protecting our people,” Fallon said.

 

[hoangsa74]

I posted the above article a few days ago. the viets went absolutely silently when they realized the brits did not give 2 cents about the viet's cause.

RUSSIA, CHINA TO HOLD WAR GAMES IN WEST PHILIPPINE SEA
Posted on September 12, 2016

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A joint naval exercise that lasts up to eight days has started yesterday in the West Philippine Sea – headed by China and Russia. This is the first drill by any country in the contested waters since an international tribunal rejected Beijing’s historic claims to the resource-rich sea.

The naval drills, the first by Russia and China in the South China Sea, will be held off southern China’s Guangdong Province, and was reportedly “not close to Beijing’s nine-dash line which was struck down by the arbitration court in The Hague in July in a case brought by the Philippines over Beijing’s maritime claims there,” said PTI of Firstpost.

The drills were “routine” and not directed at any other countries according to Chinese Navy in a statement on Sunday.

Meanwhile, Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan along with the Philippines, contest China’s claims over the South China Sea.

http://tankler.com/russia-china-to-hold-war-games-in-west-philippine-sea-7699

Russian just unload another load on the viets with this kind of behavior.

 

[grey boy 2]

Updates: 近日，中国南海部分最新照片在网络上曝出，大自然的鬼斧神工令人叹为观止

 

[grey boy 2]

 

[cochine]

I posted the above article a few days ago. the viets went absolutely silently when they realized the brits did not give 2 cents about the viet's cause.


Russian just unload another load on the viets with this kind of behavior.

do you know where is China EZZ in Quangdong sea ? There is separated by Quangxi sea and there is so far way from Hainan sea. Its not related to us (in East Vietnam Sea).

(Russian can report to us collected important data and information if its necessary )

 

[Daniel808]

Russia Supports China’s Stance on South China Sea

"We stand in solidarity and support of China's position on this issue – not to recognize the decision of this court… This is not a political position, but purely legal. It lies in the fact that any arbitration proceedings should be initiated by the disputing parties, while the arbitration court should hear the arguments and positions of the disputing parties. As you know, China did not address the Hague arbitration and no one listened to its position there. How can you recognize these decisions as fair? We support China's position on this issue," Putin stressed.

Read more: http://sputniknews.com/world/20160905/1044988523/russia-china-putin.html

Fresh from Russia directly !
This tell us, everything

Don't get shocked, our little viet friends

 

[cochine]

Russia Supports China’s Stance on South China Sea



Fresh from Russia directly !
This tell us, everything

Don't get shocked, our little viet friends

Why we 're shocked ? We do know what could happened in China _Russia (or USSR) relation from long time,. like what was from 1969 ?.


I quote here again for you, Putin said that :

"We of course have our own opinion on this matter. It is that, first of all, we do not interfere and we believe that any intervention of a non-regional power goes only to the detriment of settling these issues. The intervention of third-party non-regional powers, in my opinion, is harmful and counterproductive," he added

https://sputniknews.com/world/20160905/1044988523/russia-china-putin.html

Putin has kick off China to counter USA in Asia.

 

[hoangsa74]

Read #4

Now this is the official statement from North Vietnam that agreed to the Chinese's claim of #4