South China Sea Arbitration News & Discussion

[itaskol]

Please translate it for us.

what I wrote was not my comment， it was the translation.
the annoucement of the united nation is“the whole thing has nothing to do with the united nation”

 

[RPK]

Welcome to the world, Hope it is not censored by CPC

 

[Nilgiri]

You wanted picture of homes and showed you one and now you say it's not going to hold up in court!!!! Yes I agree it's not going to hold up in a kangaroo court. Therefore, China must do what needs to be done and that is to exercise her sovereignty over the SCS.

Its not a picture of any homes....its not even established its one of the spratly rocks to begin with.

In no international court will that be accepted as evidence of clear habitation.

Not to mention what about the other rocks? How can they be counted as islands all subject to the 12nm definition that forms the basis of the 9 dash line?

China can go ahead and exercise whatever notion of sovereignty it believes it has....but will do so illegally....just like Israel does in the West Bank with its illegal settlements. Its all legal of course in the eyes of the beholder....but that argument does not automatically extend to everyone else. You have to prove sovereignty to them legally....and this did not happen and is legally binding as well as far as the UNCLOS is concerned (which the PRC is a member of).

Thats the end of that.

 

[itaskol]

Welcome to the world, Hope it is not censored by CPC

......
I just tell the truth，
believe or not is not my problem

 

[55100864]

Please translate it for us.

https://defence.pk/threads/what-the-permanent-court-of-arbitration-is.439091/

 

[pher]

The UN just issued a statement saying“ Hague tribunal does not belong to UN and has nothing to do with UN"

Actually it is just a fake agency set up by US and Japan to try to embarrass china, nothing more. But those dumb indians buy it and cheer for it. Take your time, indians. we will soon bring up your massacre crime in Kashmir into UN. We will show you what the real UN looks like.

As for those jumping viets and pinoys, be quite and your happy time is over.

 

[Tiqiu]

The US kept her mouth zipped when Japan called Okinotori an island and claimed an EEZ around it under the UNCLOS Article 76. If Taiping was a reef, then people could argue Okinawa is a large reef too.

The so-called "Okinotori Island" of Japan

 

[greenwood]

https://defence.pk/threads/what-the-permanent-court-of-arbitration-is.439091/

No wonder the ruling is so unprofessional and unserious.

By the way, anybody knows the Permanent Court of Arbitration ( PCA ) ever had any successful case or solved any territory disputes before?

 

[barbarosa]

Thanks God that it was a dummy court which was stage by USA.

 

[ashok321]

The same tribunal at Hague handled India's Savarkar case in 1911

 

[kankan326]

This must be a hit for our Filipino and Indian friends here.

 

[anant_s]

They have already started worshiping one those warmongers as a deity, praying to Hindu gods for his victory in election.

Sorry didn't get this part. Can you please rephrase?

You tell me, what does it say about your countrymen?

As i said above, please don't take each and every voice from media as general thinking of public or political establishment. A lot of media houses in India are privately run and they may or may not convey the official stand. As for the content, since NSG plenary meeting in Seoul, efforts have been made to sensationalize anything to do with China. We must remember here that, often sections of general public like to see things happening as they do in movies or thriller novels and TV channels and print media sometimes take advantage of that fact and play to gallery (& make money in the process).
response from Democratically elected government is usually far more calibrated and mature.

You tell me, what does it say about your countrymen?

trust me if you go to streets and ask a random guy, what South China Sea issue is all about (or even where Hague is) , 9 out of 10 times, you'll get a blank in response. Nobody wants war!

@Joe Shearer @AUSTERLITZ

 

[itaskol]

The same tribunal at Hague handled India's Savarkar case in 1911

PCA not works like a court.
more like a paid middleman. useless without agreement of both parties.
in this case phillipines paid the whole money for it. they just provide their "useless" service to their client.

 

[Viet]

how about reading the Unclos?

both (b) the International Court of Justice and (c) an arbitral tribunal are resided in the Peace Palace in Hague. the PCA is authorized by the United Nations. no matter if the court is the owner of a certain building or a renter.



Article 287

Choice of procedure

1. When signing, ratifying or acceding to this Convention or at any time thereafter, a State shall be free to choose, by means of a written declaration, one or more of the following means for the settlement of disputes concerning the interpretation or application of this Convention:

(a) the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea established in accordance with Annex VI;

(b) the International Court of Justice;

(c) an arbitral tribunal constituted in accordance with Annex VII;

(d) a special arbitral tribunal constituted in accordance with Annex VIII for one or more of the categories of disputes specified therein.

 

[55100864]

Translation:
International Court of Justice is the only official judicial institution of United Nation, located at the Hague Peace Conference, Netherlands. the Hague Peace Palace was owned by Carnegie Foundation. The Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA) only happen to be renting the same building where International Court of Justice is and the UN has nothing to do with the PAC.

Carnegie Foundation? that's so convenient！！！