South Asia Has a New Economic Leader. Will the World Take Note?

[SpaceMan18]

LOL, what, so Bangladeshis don't eat curry?

Nah we eat Candians like you

 

[Cherub786]

Nah we eat Candians like you

To be honest, I don't like Bengali food. It shouldn't even be considered a variation of Indian food. It's so bland and watery, very little spice and flavor. The only worthwhile Indian food is Northwest Indian food. Northwest India is actually the real India. We are genetically the closest to the original Aryans or ANIs. When the world thinks of India or anything to do with India what they are really thinking of is Northwest India (the Hindi Belt, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Hyderabad and Pakistan Punjab, Sindh).

 

[fallstuff]

LOL, what, so Bangladeshis don't eat curry?

Don't be ashamed of your heritage !

 

[Cherub786]

Don't be ashamed of your heritage !

Why would I be ashamed of curry? I love curry, especially pakora curry, or more accurately, kadhi. My family never used this word curry too much though, we simply say saalan. I grew up on it. Interestingly, curry is now the national dish of the UK.

 

[SpaceMan18]

To be honest, I don't like Bengali food. It shouldn't even be considered a variation of Indian food. It's so bland and watery, very little spice and flavor. The only worthwhile Indian food is Northwest Indian food. Northwest India is actually the real India. We are genetically the closest to the original Aryans or ANIs. When the world thinks of India or anything to do with India what they are really thinking of is Northwest India (the Hindi Belt, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Hyderabad and Pakistan Punjab, Sindh).

Sounds like what a Japanese person would say to Korean food


Aryans , ah Persians Huh

If Northwest India is real India then all of india that isn't northwest shouldn't belong to you guys I guess logically and it should be seprate countries

Still don't know why West Bengal isn't a part of Bangladesh even though we're the same dam Bengali people just divided by religion.

 

[Cherub786]

Sounds like what a Japanese person would say to Korean food

Aryans , ah Persians Huh

If Northwest India is real India then all of india that isn't northwest shouldn't belong to you guys I guess logically and it should be seprate countries

Still don't know why West Bengal isn't a part of Bangladesh even though we're the same dam Bengali people just divided by religion.

Actually Indo-Aryans and Iranians diverged and are separate populations. Some populations west of the Indus are closer to us Indo-Aryans genetically and linguistically than to the Iranians, such as the Nuristanis, Chitralis and Hindkowans.

West Bengalis are very different from East Bengalis. West Bengalis are more Aryan like us, but East Bengalis have heavy admixture from the Tibeto-Burman neighbors of the northeast. That's why, for example, you will notice many Bangladeshis have epicanthic folds and other Tibeto-Burman features.
West Bengalis speak Hindi more naturally, but speaking Urdu or Hindi is very difficult for Bangladeshis, and modern day Bangladeshi youth can barely speak any Urdu or Hindi at all thanks to complete Banglaization from your government education policy.

From my interaction with West Bengali Hindus here in Canada and online, they consider themselves very different from Bangladeshis not just because of Religion. They consider themselves Indian before they consider themselves Bengali. Many of them don't even want to speak Bangla at all

 

[khansaheeb]

Bangladesh — the overcrowded, overpopulated flood-prone state that, founded in 1971, is barely older than the internet — is now one of the richest countries in South Asia. The region was rocked by this week’s data that Bangladesh’s GDP per capita will exceed India’s this year, despite India having a 25 percent lead just five years ago.

There is no doubt about what has tipped the balance: COVID-19. While India has struggled to bring the virus under control, Bangladesh’s data-led innovative public health approach and rapidly improving digital infrastructure has allowed the economy to continue growing. But will the world take note, and realize that there are newer (and more stable) South Asian partners beyond the traditional ones? Will the new “Global Britain” prioritize the Bengal Tiger for a trade deal? And will the U.S. president (whether that’s Donald Trump or Joe Biden, come January 2021) consider Bangladesh a priority in South Asia, or stick with familiar partners?

Certainly this news will change the calculus by which an economy — and a nation state’s — strength is judged. Rather than just looking at a country’s currency, exports, and governance, its biosecurity capacity will now be seen as something as pivotal as national security — an area of policy that can make or break everything else.

It is not just Bangladesh’s growth that has contributed to this result, but India’s decline after severely mismanaging both the health and economic fallout of the pandemic.

China is the best example of how swift and effective pandemic management can support continued economic growth (consumer spending there has already returned to pre-pandemic levels and its GDP grew 5 percent in the last quarter).

But China is an extreme case — there will be many winners across the world. And there will inevitably be some who can learn a great deal from those winners, and avoid further blunders.

This change in South Asia’s economic pecking order, combined with improving social indicators and rapid digitalization, could mean that many global powers will pivot more of their attention toward Dhaka.

The shift is overdue. Since India’s independence, it has understandably been the focus of the region’s economic and political activity. The region itself is often referred to as the Indian Subcontinent, perhaps a colonial hangover based on generations of Brits who interacted with an India that was essentially the only significant state in the region (not only modern day Pakistan and Bangladesh, but also Burmese territory was part of Colonial India).

But now things have changed, most notably in Bangladesh. Avoiding the tribal or sectarian divisions that have plagued Pakistan and increasingly blighted India, Dhaka has created a resilient economy and society, and maintained a diplomatic strategy that allows strategic partnerships with a range of competing world powers.

Economically, it would be unfair to describe its GDP per capita eclipsing India’s as a pandemic-related fluke: Bangladesh has long been one of the fastest-growing economies in the world and has recently entered the ranks of middle income countries, with the aim of becoming a developed country by 2041.

Its society has developed almost as quickly as its economy. Gender equality and women’s rights are on the march, with the death penalty recently being implemented for rapists, in a sign that the female-led country will not tolerate the violence against women that is so systemic in other parts of the region.

All this is underpinned by an ambitious digitization strategy led by a2i, a tech and digital transformation department founded by the Prime Minister’s Office. As digital economic inclusion is rolled out across the country, expect to see more tech startups like ShopUp, which this week raised $22.5 million from leading Venture Capital firm Sequioa. Free Economic Zones, like the one set up in conjunction with Japan’s government last month (Tokyo’s biggest investment in South Asia), will speed up the process.

Beyond economic growth, the realignment of power across South Asia raises important diplomatic opportunities. As the United States attempts to maintain its role in the region, Bangladesh may be a crucial partner, particularly given Dhaka’s strategic partnership with Beijing.

Similarly for the U.K., perhaps London will follow in Tokyo’s footsteps and prioritize the relationship with Bangladesh. A U.K.-Bangladesh trade deal would be a strong start to Britain’s post-EU strategy, with a significant portion of Bangladesh’s garment sector being dependent on U.K. consumers.

It has become common for political leaders to claim that they will “build back better” after COVID-19, with the slogan appearing across the world and capturing many people’s hopes. As we build back better, we should remember that the building blocks are not the same as they were before the pandemic. Nowhere is that truer than in South Asia.

South Asia Has a New Economic Leader. Will the World Take Note?

COVID-19 has made Bangladesh richer per capita than India. Will diplomatic partners shift their strategies as a result?

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How can a name change make it any older or younger? Bangladesh aka East Pakistan was born in 1947.
Wherever there is cheap labor that can be exploited by the west the country is given the accolade of being economically successful. The masses are still poor and the rich are getting richer as the money is pumped into exploit the impoverished workers.

 

[SpaceMan18]

Actually Indo-Aryans and Iranians diverged and are separate populations. Some populations west of the Indus are closer to us Indo-Aryans genetically and linguistically than to the Iranians, such as the Nuristanis, Chitralis and Hindkowans.

West Bengalis are very different from East Bengalis. West Bengalis are more Aryan like us, but East Bengalis have heavy admixture from the Tibeto-Burman neighbors of the northeast. That's why, for example, you will notice many Bangladeshis have epicanthic folds and other Tibeto-Burman features.
West Bengalis speak Hindi more naturally, but speaking Urdu or Hindi is very difficult for Bangladeshis, and modern day Bangladeshi youth can barely speak any Urdu or Hindi at all thanks to complete Banglaization from your government education policy.

From my interaction with West Bengali Hindus here in Canada and online, they consider themselves very different from Bangladeshis not just because of Religion. They consider themselves Indian before they consider themselves Bengali. Many of them don't even want to speak Bangla at all

They consider themselves Indian cause they see India as more important , of Bangaldesh was a developed nation then they would change t

Actually Indo-Aryans and Iranians diverged and are separate populations. Some populations west of the Indus are closer to us Indo-Aryans genetically and linguistically than to the Iranians, such as the Nuristanis, Chitralis and Hindkowans.

West Bengalis are very different from East Bengalis. West Bengalis are more Aryan like us, but East Bengalis have heavy admixture from the Tibeto-Burman neighbors of the northeast. That's why, for example, you will notice many Bangladeshis have epicanthic folds and other Tibeto-Burman features.
West Bengalis speak Hindi more naturally, but speaking Urdu or Hindi is very difficult for Bangladeshis, and modern day Bangladeshi youth can barely speak any Urdu or Hindi at all thanks to complete Banglaization from your government education policy.

From my interaction with West Bengali Hindus here in Canada and online, they consider themselves very different from Bangladeshis not just because of Religion. They consider themselves Indian before they consider themselves Bengali. Many of them don't even want to speak Bangla at all

Listen , you can't separate Bengalis just cause they have some diffrene blood in them it's like separating a German cause he has some Slavic blood.

The only reason they don't wanna join us is cause we aren't developed yet , if we were they wouldn't hesitate to join.

Remember when Germany was divided ? Yeah it came together in the end

They don't speak Bengali cause Hindi is more important there duh

 

[Cherub786]

They consider themselves Indian cause they see India as more important , of Bangaldesh was a developed nation then they would change t



Listen , you can't separate Bengalis just cause they have some diffrene blood in them it's like separating a German cause he has some Slavic blood.

The only reason they don't wanna join us is cause we aren't developed yet , if we were they wouldn't hesitate to join.

Remember when Germany was divided ? Yeah it came together in the end

They don't speak Bengali cause Hindi is more important there duh

Why would they want to join Bangladesh even if it was fully developed? You remind me of those Sikh Punjabi nationalists that fantasize about reuniting Punjab. We West Punjabi Pakistani and West Bengali Indians are happy with the status quo. We don't want a united Punjab and they don't want a united Bengal. The eastern sides don't seem to understand this. Language is not a sufficient basis for nationhood. Partition can never be undone nor should it. Learn to accept the reality.

 

[SpaceMan18]

Why would they want to join Bangladesh even if it was fully developed? You remind me of those Sikh Punjabi nationalists that fantasize about reuniting Punjab. We West Punjabi Pakistani and West Bengali Indians are happy with the status quo. We don't want a united Punjab and they don't want a united Bengal. The eastern sides don't seem to understand this. Language is not a sufficient basis for nationhood. Partition can never be undone nor should it. Learn to accept the reality.

Why would I accept British bullshît ? And yes there are West Bengalis that do want a united Bengal.

And I didn't say language as the only base , Benaglis are mostly all the same anyways besides religion.

To you nations like Japan, Korea,Sweden,Germany etc shouldn't exists

But the same group of people will always stay together no matter what you Indians think .

When I go to Japan I except Japanese people speaking Japanese same goes for Korea and Germany

So a united Bengal makes total sense , Chandra Bose wanted a united Bengal but of course people like you didn't want it


With your logic Japan should be be split into multiple other nations , India was never suppose to be united you clearly know that.

Too much diversity , we Bengalis were always here and will come together in the future even if you try to seperate us by some bs propaganda or religion.

Bengalis should stay together realistically speaking , I don't what's wrong with nationalism that you Indians don't get

It's more than language , it's culture and the SAME DAM RACE

 

[bluesky]

I am aware of this opinion of Pakistanis about Ayub Khan but the alternative opinion could be that he was the worst leader or Pakistan. This man is responsible for the breakup of the state of Pakistan. The discrimination policies against Bengalis essentially started in his era which continued to grow and exploded in 1971. He also single handedly killed democracy in Pakistan and started the military rule culture; much of Pakistan's problems stem from this.

You are repeating what Awami thugs have taught you. Ayub Khan was the best President of then Pakistan and also among all the Presidents/ PMs of now Pakistan and BD.

What alternative opinion you are talking here when all the Zilla roads of now BD were concrete-built during the time of Ayub Khan. Add also the Kaptai Dam project, Chittagong Steel Mills, Patenga Cable Factory, Patenga Cement Factory, Triple Superphosphate Fertilizer Factory in Patenga, Chittagong Dry Dock, Chittagong Fish Harbour, Ghorasal Urea Fertilizer Factory, the 2nd Capital in Dhaka and hundred others.

Can you deny all these development works I pointed out above? Bangladesh could not accomplish the same development works in its first 30 years what Ayub (!958 - 1969) did during his eleven year in power.

Do not fabricate lies to please your BAL mentors.

 

[Bengal71]

You are repeating what Awami thugs have taught you. Ayub Khan was the best President of then Pakistan and also among all the Presidents/ PMs of now Pakistan and BD.

What alternative opinion you are talking here when all the Zilla roads of now BD were concrete-built during the time of Ayub Khan. Add also the Kaptai Dam project, Chittagong Steel Mills, Patenga Cable Factory, Patenga Cement Factory, Triple Superphosphate Fertilizer Factory in Patenga, Chittagong Dry Dock, Chittagong Fish Harbour, Ghorasal Urea Fertilizer Factory, the 2nd Capital in Dhaka and hundred others.

Can you deny all these development works I pointed out above? Bangladesh could not accomplish the same development works in its first 30 years what Ayub (!958 - 1969) did during his eleven year in power.

Do not fabricate lies to please your BAL mentors.

You are going off on a tangent. I don't have much time to waste with you. Read post and comprehend before frantically hitting the keyboard.

 

[Saiful Islam]

Why would I be ashamed of curry? I love curry, especially pakora curry, or more accurately, kadhi. My family never used this word curry too much though, we simply say saalan. I grew up on it. Interestingly, curry is now the national dish of the UK.

Many of us say "Salan" too, but that just means curry to us. Other words such as "Thor Khari" refers to a batch of vegetables used for a curry.

If by North Western food you mean the kind of food they peddle in Indian restaurants you can have it lol. If you want Cherbee (fat) in your body then Northern food is ideal. Northern Indian food seems to exaggerate on the Mughlai theme.

Bangladeshi palettes vary, in the North East we have a liking for bitter and sour tastes, in places like Dhaka they prefer much heavier, oilier foods, whereas in Chittagong they have a tradition of meat eating and are big meat eaters.

Actually Indo-Aryans and Iranians diverged and are separate populations. Some populations west of the Indus are closer to us Indo-Aryans genetically and linguistically than to the Iranians, such as the Nuristanis, Chitralis and Hindkowans.

West Bengalis are very different from East Bengalis. West Bengalis are more Aryan like us, but East Bengalis have heavy admixture from the Tibeto-Burman neighbors of the northeast. That's why, for example, you will notice many Bangladeshis have epicanthic folds and other Tibeto-Burman features.
West Bengalis speak Hindi more naturally, but speaking Urdu or Hindi is very difficult for Bangladeshis, and modern day Bangladeshi youth can barely speak any Urdu or Hindi at all thanks to complete Banglaization from your government education policy.

From my interaction with West Bengali Hindus here in Canada and online, they consider themselves very different from Bangladeshis not just because of Religion. They consider themselves Indian before they consider themselves Bengali. Many of them don't even want to speak Bangla at all

But that's good, we don't really cluster with any of the main Hindi belt ethnic groups. Less to do with India...The better.

 

[JackFell]

Many of us say "Salan" too, but that just means curry to us. Other words such as "Thor Khari" refers to a batch of vegetables used for a curry.

If by North Western food you mean the kind of food they peddle in Indian restaurants you can have it lol. If you want Cherbee (fat) in your body then Northern food is ideal. Northern Indian food seems to exaggerate on the Mughlai theme.

Bangladeshi palettes vary, in the North East we have a liking for bitter and sour tastes, in places like Dhaka they prefer much heavier, oilier foods, whereas in Chittagong they have a tradition of meat eating and are big meat eaters.


But that's good, we don't really cluster with any of the main Hindi belt ethnic groups. Less to do with India...The better.

Are you joking mate? Bengalis look like your archetypical "pajeet", DNA studies have shown you guys are on the Indo-Mongoloid cline.

98% of the "Indian" restaurants in the UK are run by Bengalis from Bangladesh and nobody even notices the difference.

 

[Cherub786]

Why would I accept British bullshît ? And yes there are West Bengalis that do want a united Bengal.

And I didn't say language as the only base , Benaglis are mostly all the same anyways besides religion.

To you nations like Japan, Korea,Sweden,Germany etc shouldn't exists

But the same group of people will always stay together no matter what you Indians think .

When I go to Japan I except Japanese people speaking Japanese same goes for Korea and Germany

So a united Bengal makes total sense , Chandra Bose wanted a united Bengal but of course people like you didn't want it


With your logic Japan should be be split into multiple other nations , India was never suppose to be united you clearly know that.

Too much diversity , we Bengalis were always here and will come together in the future even if you try to seperate us by some bs propaganda or religion.

Bengalis should stay together realistically speaking , I don't what's wrong with nationalism that you Indians don't get

It's more than language , it's culture and the SAME DAM RACE

Very few if any West Bengalis want a united Bengal. Even at time of partition:

Who do you think the short bald man in the dhoti represents? The West Bengali Hindu "DIVIDED Bengal in United India" that's what they wanted.
You can't compare us Indians to Europeans or East Asians. India is highly religiously conscious place. Communities define themselves by religion before language or race. You may not like it, but that's the way it is. Even in contemporary Bangladesh Muslims and Hindus are very much divided and socially segregated, from village to village.
You're talking about Chandra Bose wanting a united Bengal, but did he want an independent Bengal separate from the rest of India?
I don't understand you Bengalis and this hatred of the British. The British under Curzon favored the East Bengali Muslim peasants, they divided Bengal in 1905 to give your side a chance to develop economically without being exploited by Calcutta and the West Bengali Hindu industrialists.
You see, the initial factor for Hindu-Muslim disunity in Bengal was the economic factor. West Bengal Hindus were industrialists exploiting and repressing the impoverished, malnourished and politically weak East Bengali Muslim peasants. Pakistan was created to save your people from that economic exploitation of your fellow Hindu Bengalis.
This fantasy of Greater Bangladesh is exactly that, a fantasy.