South African apartheid-era security forces crush Boko Haram

[tsinga]

Pakistan has taken on a nation 4 times larger thsn it and consistently been successful

From taking half of kashmir and blocking india from Afghanistan and Central Asia in 1947

To destroying indian armoured columns in the 60s

To a handfull of fighters walking and tsking territory during Kargil

Considering how much bigger our enemy is the Pak military has been a miracle

Again, missing the forest for the trees.

Is taking a few armoured colums to blocking trading access is the primary job of the Pakistan military? Even Taliban has had few successess in taking armoured columns and guerrilla warfare. Doesn't mean they are a competent Army.

The job of an Army is first and foremost to prevent loss of territory of the Nation, second job is to acquire more territory for the Nation.

As I said, in all its wars, Pakistan military has displayed absolutely nothing special. Individual acts of valour do not an Organization's resume make.

As an Organization, it has failed in both its primary task as well as secondary task. The only one who seems in awe of Pakistani Military are Pakistanis themselves, thanks to a sculpted worldview made by a security state to remain in power.

As I said before, Pakistan military is mediocre at best.

Bhai saab, that doesn't matter. You see, unless you're not in Iraq, holding a Kalashnikov and shooting ISIS fighters for the Assad regime, you're an Islamist sympathizer who will eventually be gassed by defenders of the White race like Azizam.

Defenders of the white race?
More like defenders of entire humanity.

Islamists have killed people everywhere from India to Sri Lanka to Myanmar to Cambodia to London. These barbarians are a threat to civilized humans.

Obsessed much over the western world?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

You mean they are even better than our forces ?

In a way...yes. They make our forces look like kids

Now seriously, we have special ops which has to be compared to their special ops. The regular army of the apartheid forces were just a rag tag bunch. It was the special ops guys who delivered the goods. Indian army has various divisions. Our special forces and our specialized regiments are as equally hard hitting if not worse than these guys

 

[SrNair]

In a way...yes. They make our forces look like kids

Now seriously, we have special ops which has to be compared to their special ops. The regular army of the apartheid forces were just a rag tag bunch. It was the special ops guys who delivered the goods. Indian army has various divisions. Our special forces and our specialized regiments are as equally hard hitting if not worse than these guys

@denel here you have a balanced reply with clear facts.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Pakistan military over the last 5 decades has lost 3 major wars, lost half its country and has constantly ceded territory to its enemies.

Pakistan being the only country in South Asia to consistently lose territory since 1947.

In fact the biggest success of capturing land by Pakistan Army in the last war it fought was... the President House in Islamabad.

Patriotism aside, going by objective records, Pakistan Army is mediocre at best.

Indeed. Pakistan Army is in the same category by your own 'objective' measure ( as if a Indian could be objective about Pakistan ) as the German Army. The high mark was making sure certain dictator remained in power. It also lost every war in the 20th century ...

 

[ozzy22]

When I said rest of us, I meant rest of the countries. if you haven't noticed, many countries are swinging towards right wing when is comes to islamism including China. People who have the mentality of the member I quoted simply don't know how to coexist and there are many people like him who don't express their opinion openly. At least he says what he really believes in so that's better than nothing.


I have respect for Shia muslims because they know how to co-exist so no you are not.

What would be your solution to this "problem" or what do you thinks going to happen?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Indeed. Pakistan Army is in the same category by your own 'objective' measure ( as if a Indian could be objective about Pakistan ) as the German Army. The high mark was making sure certain dictator remained in power. It also lost every war in the 20th century ...

Does your highlighted point refer to the Pakistani army ? From my extremely limited knowledge on the subject, that allegation certainly applied neither to the Indian army nor to the German army. Perhaps you may have come across some factual historical analysis which could prove me wrong

 

[Hiptullha]

More like defenders of entire humanity.

Gimme a break. He warns us of genocide and sides with people like Assad and Saddam.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Does your highlighted point refer to the Pakistani army ? From my extremely limited knowledge on the subject, that allegation certainly applied neither to the Indian army nor to the German army. Perhaps you may have come across some factual historical analysis which could prove me wrong

No where did I bring the Indian Army in my referance. Care to tell me which war did the German Army win 20th century?

European history is my weak point ...


Ps. The chance of a Indian being objective about Pakistan is about as probably as me heaping praise on India.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

No where did I bring the Indian Army in my referance. Care to tell me which war did the German Army win 20th century?

European history is my weak point ...


Ps. The chance of a Indian being objective about Pakistan is about as probably as me heaping praise on India.

Dude, Mr "Think Tank"..Germany won its war against Czeckoslovakia, Russia on the Eastern Front, Poland, Austria (not much resistance there) ...all in the 20th century. World War 2 erupted because of German success in defeating Poland. There was a war there in Poland. Germany started it and Germany defeated the Polish forces. Hope that helps.

Indians frankly speaking in reality don't give a fig about Pakistan. How can you expect us to be objective about a neighbor when travel restrictions apply for us to even cross each other's borders. The only time that Pakistan crops up in the average daily Indian household is when we watch something on tv or read something in the newspaper. Other that that Pakistan is as significant to the Indians whom I know as much as Timbaktu is to them. Hope that helps on your ramblings for whatever reason it was commenced

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Dude, Mr "Think Tank"..Germany won its war against Czeckoslovakia, Russia on the Eastern Front, Poland, Austria (not much resistance there) ...all in the 20th century. World War 2 erupted because of German success in defeating Poland. There was a war there in Poland. Germany started it and Germany defeated the Polish forces. Hope that helps.

It might have escaped your notice but all that is part of the WW2. All those events are inextricably linked to each other. Why not read on WW2 and you will find these campaigns formed part of larger historical even that we call WW2.

The German Army lost every war in the 20th Century. They may have won campaigns but all of it was futile. The end was defeat ....

Indians frankly speaking in reality don't give a fig about Pakistan. How can you expect us to be objective about a neighbor when travel restrictions apply for us to even cross each other's borders. The only time that Pakistan crops up in the average daily Indian household is when we watch something on tv or read something in the newspaper. Other that that Pakistan is as significant to the Indians whom I know as much as Timbaktu is to them. Hope that helps on your ramblings for whatever reason it was commenced

Don't they? In that case you have have lost your way. Scroll to the top what does it say? InTimbaktu Defence ?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

It might have escaped your notice but all that is part of the WW2. All those events are inextricably linked to each other. Why not read on WW2 and you will find these campaigns formed part of larger historical even that we call WW2.

The German Army lost every war in the 20th Century. They may have won campaigns but all of it was futile. The end was defeat ....



Don't they? In that case you have have lost your way. Scroll to the top what does it say? InTimbaktu Defence ?

Now you went ahead and decided that all these battles being fought before the Allies declared war on Germany was a part of a great plan called World War 2 ? Lol, that is hilarious man. I ain't here to teach you European history and suggest that you borrow a few books or google up on it and return to comment thereafter.

You seem to be some senior badazz on this forum. If you have a problem with Indian membership, complain to your buddy the Webmaster and ask him/her to ban all Indian members. We ain't here for nothing more than entertainment. The fact that we are here gives this forum a different perspective. Until we get banned I guess its either shut up or put up for moaning whining Pakistanis like you.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Have a read of WW2 and you will see Poland is included as the start of the war. There was no war in in Czeckoslovakia, the ethnic Germans there agreed to "Anchlus" or union and Germans just drove in. The real defining moment of the start of WW2 is invasion of Poland.

War breaks out in Europe (1939–40)

Main articles: Invasion of Poland, Occupation of Poland (1939–45), Nazi crimes against the Polish nation, Soviet invasion of Poland and Soviet repressions of Polish citizens (1939–46)

World War II - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Indians whom I know as much as Timbaktu is to them.

I don't particularly care if your polluting this forum but read the above quote, clearly by your presence here you do care more than Timbaktu.

So going back to what I said the German Army fought two wars, WW1 and WW2 and lost both hands down ....

Thus German and Pak armies both did not apparently do too well in the 20th century.

 

[Azizam]

Who is this us??????? Why the phuck do you think americans, russians etc would care about your black sri lankan monkey ***

You seem to be under the impression that if and when the world goes to hell in a hand basket somehow the white supremacists will say oh a dark sri lankan of course we are natural allies

Inferiority complex. Even your overlords (Arabs, Persians etc.) are making fun of that. You are nothing more than a slave, why the **** would I take a slave seriously even when your masters are shitting on you. East or west, islamism has become a menace to everyone including us sri lankans, if it dominates the world, the world would look like planet of the apes.

Every time you start chimping out about skin colour. This comes to my mind

You are right. I am wasting my time on this forum by interacting with a horde of insecure losers, liars and intellectual weaklings.

I know what you mean also by Pakistanis. 10 or 15 years ago i remember it was really common for many of them to try and claim some kind of racial or ancestral relationship to the Middle East. Even today i still meet Pakistanis who will tell me that they have some connection to "Persia" or that "X" ancestor of them "came from Persia".

I can give you a recent example actually. About 2 months ago i was at a house party. A friend of a friend of mine was introduced to me, she was Bahraini. She was there with another girl who was Pakistani. The Pakistani asked me where i was from and when i told her i was Iranian she told me that she was also "Persian", but she didnt look Iranian to me at all. But i dont judge so i said to her salaam, chetori, khoob hasti? in typical Iranian small talk and then asked her chi kar mikoni and she just looked at me. So i then told her by the way dar landan be donya omadam pas farsiye man khoob nist choon ke man faghat ye kami farsi baladam and she just looked at me blankly again. So i asked her midooni? and she replied 'oh im Persian ...but from Pakistan'. She obviously didnt understand a word id said to her, and i was confused by her response.

So i was like, OK, do you know Farsi, and she said no. I asked her if she's been to Iran, she said no. I asked her are her parents from Iran, she said no. I asked her if her grandparents were from Iran, she said no, her 'ancestors' were. So i asked her where she's really from and it turned out that in truth she was from some 'Punjab', Pakistan.

Honestly, ive been through this many times before with Pakistanis. I even met a Pakistani before that told me he had "Greek blood" and that "many Pakistanis have Greek in them".

Such massive and insecure liars.

If its not "Persia" then its some Arab country or "Central Asia", lol. Anything but being Indian it seems which is what they actually are.

Don't you have any dignity? You try hard to associate with them and they try their best to keep a distance from you. You managed to **** up the reputation of entire communities of South Asians although we got absolutely nothing to do with you. The term "****" is now a racial slur and it pretty much sums up the whole thing.

 

[flamer84]

It might have escaped your notice but all that is part of the WW2. All those events are inextricably linked to each other. Why not read on WW2 and you will find these campaigns formed part of larger historical even that we call WW2.

The German Army lost every war in the 20th Century. They may have won campaigns but all of it was futile. The end was defeat ....



Don't they? In that case you have have lost your way. Scroll to the top what does it say? InTimbaktu Defence ?

A campaign against the premiere powers of the time.They still won against Russia in WW1 and Poland,Greece,Yugoslavia,Denmark,Norway,Belgium,Netherlands and France in WW2.And then fought for 4 more years against the Soviet Union,UK ,Canada,US ,Free France in Europe and Africa.They didn't loose against 1 (ONE) neighbour.Cherry on top,they won the Cold War and reunited with Eastern Germany.

But hey,you see similarities ......

 

[Azizam]

The lankan clown is more loyal to the white man than the white man himself.

Chinese "clowns" being loyal to the white man than the white man himself.

University in China stirs controversy with Muslim headscarf ban ucanews.com

Putin "clown" being loyal to the white man than the white man himself.

Japanese "clown" being loyal to the white man than the white man himself.

Tokyo governor’s ’Islamophobic’ remarks on Muslims cause outrage in Turkey

Can't you see the trend? East or west, it has become a menace to everyone. Instead of attacking me, attack the ones who are responsible for the whole problem, if you don't then it's nobody's fault that you get generalised.