Solution for Karachi's Endless and Mindless Violence!

[shuakataftab]

yes i know your leader said this sell your jewellery buy guns and learn karate!

what he said in 1986 was right and still it is the right thing to do
You cant protect yourself without guns especially when the person standing outside your house is your Muslim brother who is screaming Allah hu akbar and trying to kill you as if you are an infidel

people of qasba were declared infidels/jews and killed mercilessly in 1986 the people who attacked qasba and aligarh colony were screaming Allah hu akbar

and the same thing happened in 2011 when the people living in qasba and aligarh colony were declared as jews by the local mosques and after one week qasba and aligarh colony was under attack

 

[S.M.R]

Why are you such naive person, Major Number of target killers arrested this year belonged to MQM and their confession statements were also published in "THE NEWS" english newspaper. You should read more newspaper Buddy to get your self acquainted with situation on Ground.


P.S. i wonder why this terminology "Bori Band Laashay " is associated with MQM.

There is no surprise, since MQM is in majority therefore it is pertinent that its supporters, workers, leaders etc are in large number, following course the number of target killers is also large.

 

[S.M.R]

The MQM is a grassroots party, but its dictatorial structure and torture chambers are things worth opposing, don't you agree?

Dictatorial structure is very strong in almost every party, and torture chambers are history now.

 

[ice_man]

what he said in 1986 was right and still it is the right thing to do
You cant protect yourself without guns especially when the person standing outside your house is your Muslim brother who is screaming Allah hu akbar and trying to kill you as if you are an infidel

people of qasba were declared infidels/jews and killed mercilessly in 1986 the people who attacked qasba and aligarh colony were screaming Allah hu akbar

and the same thing happened in 2011 when the people living in qasba and aligarh colony were declared as jews by the local mosques and after one week qasba and aligarh colony was under attack

okkkkkkk and hwo told you that???? no international media or anyone ever mentioned it....and are you relating pakistanis to indians that sent trains filled with dead people to our country???

and if your MQM is "ALLOWED" to arm itself then i guess unfortunately we cannot blame PPP or ANP!!!! because clearly all 3 parties love to arm themselves!!!!


anyhow please give me some proof OF INTERNATIONAL MEDIA about QASBA COLONY & ALIGARH KILLING AND PEOPLE CALLING PEOPLE JEWS AND KAFIR!!!

anyways please expain MAY 2007 live killing by MQM i am sure the WORLD SAW THAT!

 

[Mav3rick]

yes i know your leader said this sell your jewellery buy guns and learn karate!

LOL......Its irony how people quote other out of context. Dude infidels quote even Quranic verses to spread their agendas as out of context anything can be made to reason anything!

Anyway let me tell you the whole story.......Altaf Hussain was visiting the home of a worker whose house was attacked and whose sisters were raped....He was told how the rapists took all valuables as well which included a TV and VCR (now this is late 80's so you can imagine the cost of these luxury items back then) he asked why the worker had not sold his TV and VCR to buy protection for his family (weapon) during those troublesome times? It is at that time that he told his fellow workers to sell their TV's & VCR's and buy weapons to protect their families because honour is above any luxury!

It is honestly a shameful act to quote someone out of context.

 

[Mav3rick]

and if your MQM is "ALLOWED" to arm itself then i guess unfortunately we cannot blame PPP or ANP!!!! because clearly all 3 parties love to arm themselves!!!!


anyhow please give me some proof OF INTERNATIONAL MEDIA about QASBA COLONY & ALIGARH KILLING AND PEOPLE CALLING PEOPLE JEWS AND KAFIR!!!

Are you for real dude?? You are coming across as a child who has hardly set his foot outside his door because:

1) ANP and Pushtun mostly are responsible for all illegal drugs and weapons within the country, let alone Karachi! What did you think these Pashtun Afghans brought with them during the years of Soviet Afghan war and even today?

2) Are you in self denial? MQM held a press conference in which they released videos secretly acquired from Madaressah's within those localities where Mohajirs were being labelled as infidels! And I thought I was the one who hardly watched any TV. Damn!

anyways please expain MAY 2007 live killing by MQM i am sure the WORLD SAW THAT!

You mean you want me to explain the peaceful rally of MQM on 12th May 2007 in which children, women and elderly participated along with men? You want me to explain the video where that peaceful rally disperses in all directions as ANP terrorists opened fire upon innocent men/women/children? Or perhaps you want me to explain the video in which Sherry Rehman is giving out orders to heavily armed men all around her PRADO who were firing away in passion?

Oh hold on, maybe you want me to explain the video in which alleged MQM worker with party flags attacked a news channel office? I mean if you want me to explain how dumb the party workers were to actually carry official party flags during terrorist activities it may be impossible for me. I wonder if enemies of MQM could carry MQM flags when they attacked a news channel broadcasting events live all across the country to defame MQM for another decade.....hmmm, I wonder how smart people really are!

 

[Solomon2]

Dictatorial structure is very strong in almost every party, and torture chambers are history now.

In the U.S. there is party loyalty, but never an oath of personal loyalty to a specific leader as a condition of membership.

The MQM appears to be engaged in a shoot-out with its political competitors. Something seems to be missing, or I missed it: where is the public debate on the national level between these parties on the core issues of governance?

 

[ice_man]

LOL......Its irony how people quote other out of context. Dude infidels quote even Quranic verses to spread their agendas as out of context anything can be made to reason anything!

Anyway let me tell you the whole story.......Altaf Hussain was visiting the home of a worker whose house was attacked and whose sisters were raped....He was told how the rapists took all valuables as well which included a TV and VCR (now this is late 80's so you can imagine the cost of these luxury items back then) he asked why the worker had not sold his TV and VCR to buy protection for his family (weapon) during those troublesome times? It is at that time that he told his fellow workers to sell their TV's & VCR's and buy weapons to protect their families because honour is above any luxury!

It is honestly a shameful act to quote someone out of context.

nice story.....very nice Mahesh Bhutt should make a movie on it! because clearly no proof to back it up except ofcourse your "word"

 

[ice_man]

Are you for real dude?? You are coming across as a child who has hardly set his foot outside his door because:

1) ANP and Pushtun mostly are responsible for all illegal drugs and weapons within the country, let alone Karachi! What did you think these Pashtun Afghans brought with them during the years of Soviet Afghan war and even today?

2) Are you in self denial? MQM held a press conference in which they released videos secretly acquired from Madaressah's within those localities where Mohajirs were being labelled as infidels! And I thought I was the one who hardly watched any TV. Damn!





You mean you want me to explain the peaceful rally of MQM on 12th May 2007 in which children, women and elderly participated along with men? You want me to explain the video where that peaceful rally disperses in all directions as ANP terrorists opened fire upon innocent men/women/children? Or perhaps you want me to explain the video in which Sherry Rehman is giving out orders to heavily armed men all around her PRADO who were firing away in passion?

Oh hold on, maybe you want me to explain the video in which alleged MQM worker with party flags attacked a news channel office? I mean if you want me to explain how dumb the party workers were to actually carry official party flags during terrorist activities it may be impossible for me. I wonder if enemies of MQM could carry MQM flags when they attacked a news channel broadcasting events live all across the country to defame MQM for another decade.....hmmm, I wonder how smart people really are!

oh so no proof here again...and peaceful rally in 2007 !!! very peaceful!

and if you calling "people faking they are MQM" then how can you be sure SHERRY REHMAN was SHERRY REHMAN when as you said "the video was being broadcast to everyone around the world" it would be defaming PPP ( if MQM party workers according to you were not mqm party workers then i am sure sherry rehman was also not sherry rehman)


copy pasting your last line :

hmmm, I wonder how smart people really are!

 

[TaimiKhan]

In the U.S. there is party loyalty, but never an oath of personal loyalty to a specific leader as a condition of membership.

The MQM appears to be engaged in a shoot-out with its political competitors. Something seems to be missing, or I missed it: where is the public debate on the national level between these parties on the core issues of governance?

There is never any discussion. Political parties are run by individuals instead of any democracy within themselves, thus they are incapable of running a country through democrazzzy.

Whenever these political parties come to power, they have 2 agendas, get rich as much as possible, and target the opposition parties, simple as that. None of them are interested to work for the country. And when things get really bad, then army takes over and we know the story of that also.

 

[Solomon2]

There is never any discussion. Political parties are run by individuals instead of any democracy within themselves -

All of them?!?!

 

[TaimiKhan]

All of them?!?!

PPP - Being run by Bhuttos

PML-N - The Nawaz Brothers

PML-Q - By the Chaudhry Brothers (though their control has been reduced with dissidents within the party)

Tehreek-i-Insaaf - Being run by Imran Khan

Jamat-e-Islami is an exception but its leader once elected is there for years too and they are also no good even though they are religious party.

MQM - Being run by Altaf Bhai Jaan by sitting in the UK after taking political asylum.

Many other smaller parties also revolve around one person.

 

[Solomon2]

^^^^
Then why not get some friends together and start a new movement or party with a core agenda, as one group of friends started The Citizens Foundation to build schools and the like? link

 

[TaimiKhan]

^^^^
Then why not get some friends together and start a new movement or party with a core agenda, as one group of friends started The Citizens Foundation to build schools and the like? link

Problem is the politics are controlled by a few, they are rich, have money and are merciless and play dirty politics. Who ever comes to challenge them, unfortunately either will get killed or he won't be let in, as the entry barriers in politics are very high. Huge resources are required to get into politics.

We have many examples where ordinary people of Pakistan have done great things for its people and still are doing. Recent disasters are an example of it and we will keep doing that. But politics is from where ordinary Pakistanis run, they know who is running the show and what kind of people they are. Recent tragedies in Karachi are a testament to that.

Our bad luck.

 

[Mav3rick]

nice story.....very nice Mahesh Bhutt should make a movie on it! because clearly no proof to back it up except ofcourse your "word"

Find me proof of your statement and I shall do likewise!