Soleimani StatuteTorched by Protesters

[raptor22]

Terrorists sponsored by NATO and zionist intelligence services, who happen to be despised by the Iranian people, can stage token spectacular actions every now and then. What they cannot do, is to mobilize the Iranian people. Mobilize the people, move their hearts and have them raise their fists like shahid Soleimani did, when millions - quite literally, took the streets to honor him during his funeral procession, and achieved to score an undisputed new world record in human history.

Let zionists, Americans and their ill-inspired patsies drool at the insignificant actions of MKO terrorists and some other token traitors recruited by Mossad, the CIA and so on. Other than psy-ops, these actions have exactly zero operational value. And in the upper echelons at Washington and Tel Aviv, they know it full well. Saddam actually may have thought that harlequins like these traitors would reach Tehran in a matter of days when he unleashed them on Iran after the 1988 ceasefire. Instead, they got crushed so badly that they never attempted an all out invasion again.

It's not a bunch of trained operatives and saboteurs who decide the outcome. It's the masses. And as all evidence shows, the masses are unanimously behind their beloved shahid Hajj Qassem Soleimani, hero of Iran, hero of Islam - and of Al-Qods, as per Hamas leader Ismail Hanieh, and hero of all oppressed peoples regardless of religious or national affiliations, oppressed peoples who stand up to world-devouring zio-American imperial oppression and arrogance.

Well many statues were taken down or splashed paint by american people in 2020 and it was done all by american citizens in day light no foreign aid or etc, here we see a bunch of ........ celebrating torching a statue done with 1 person at night which was a member of a terrorist organization that welcomed occupation of Mosul by isis in 2014 calling them revolutionaries ... no wonder those whom welcomed isis are in the same boat with those who martyred the only hero fighting against isis.

lets imagine a reverse situation:

american general making an officially pre-announced visit on the invititation of the Iraqi government. An Iranian drone murders him on the road to his meeting.

The US government and people are rightly infuriated and demand a response. The US government then states openly that we will be bombing an IRGC military base, despite the fact that Iran was threatning an all out war incase of an american strike.

The US disregards those warnings, and opens fire with a dozen missiles. hitting their targets with near pinpoint accuracy and causing severe destrucion and injuries.

Iran then quietly states that they want to diffuse the situation and do not want any escalation and stands down. The US states they have sent a message with this direct strike. while a bigger strategic respone awaits....

under this scenario everyone would be roasting Iran as the coward, while the US was brave and openly responded to an IRGC base.... guaranteed.

Iran was prepared to respond after pounding their base with at least 400 missiles ready to hit their bases all over the region for the second round .. they knew it and witnessed Iranian seriousness to fight that's why we never saw any response from them.
Qasem got what he wished and deserved, I am happy for him and sad for us that lost such a commander.

 

[Goritoes]

Please be merciful even to your enemies and I don't recall him being your enemy. Don't say such things leave the judgement to Allah

On a serious not...why build hima statue?

I have no mercy or words of sympathy for a scum like this, would you say something sympathetic to Abu Bakr Baghdadi ? His crimes against the Sunni's is no secret.

 

[sammuel]

There are always some traitors inside. People who sell their souls for a bit money and comfort. They are in every country.

This is so typical to a dictatorships. Anyone that does not agree with the mullahs is all of a sudden a traitor.

Fact is that many in Iran do not agree with the mullah involvement in other countries and their policy as was executed by Soleimani.

So I take it all those people are traitors to ?

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[KAL-EL]

Mr.Hasbara troll Samuel, all your posts are related to Iran. How much does the IDF cyber department pay you for spreading propaganda against Iran

He is paid with a bounties worth of chicken McNuggets.

 

[peagle]

Aren't they...?

Statues in Turkey:

Man almost lynched by Turkish Muslims after trying to damage Atatürk statue in Sakariya:

Statues in Indonesia:

Statues in Turkmenistan:

Statues in Pakistan:

^ Ertugrul Gazi statue.


But these aren't Arab countries, some might be tempted to say...? Well let's take a brief look at Arab countries then.


Statues in Egypt:

^ Statue of Muhammad Ali Pasha.

^ Statue of female singer Umm Khulthum.

^ Busts of former president Abdel Nasser.


Statue in Jordan:

Saudi Arabia:

^ Installed in the framework of some arts exhibition.


So, those individuals who "don't understand the Iranian regime" because it inaugurated a statue of a national hero, and because according to them Islam prohibits any and all forms of statues, should be equally puzzled and bewildered at all these other Muslim (and actually Sunni majority) countries which have no problems whatsoever erecting statues to represent various types of figures. Else, they might want to verify what Islamic teachings have to say about double standards and selective finger pointing.

Let's not even get into some of the bizarre, questionable measures taken by the Saudi regime in relation to one of Islam's main tenets, namely the hajj pilgrimage (including preventing Muslims from effectively pelting with stones the three obelisk-type pillars representing devils during the Rami al-Jamarat procession, since they had walls built all around each of these pillars).

I personally don't care who has what.

But, if we are going to be honest then you have to recognise, that places such as Indonesia, Turkiye or Pakistan are not theocracies, they do not have religious governing systems.

Iran is suppose to have a religious system of government, its a theocracy, so it is fair to judge them by their own standards.

 

[kingQamaR]

lol, love how you own these hypocrites owned

you claim yours Iran as a Islamic republic run by mullahs you hypocrites. Turkey is a secular state run by that kind big difference. Just go learn the sunnah

 

[Dariush the Great]

you claim yours Iran as a Islamic republic run by mullahs you hypocrites. Turkey is a secular state run by that kind big difference. Just go learn the sunnah

Being secular on paper to please the white Western master does not make the people less ''Islamic''. You can't excuse yourself from Islamic rules because you are implementing a Western style of governance. What a joke. Salarhaqqs post was on point and still stings all the hypocrite freaks here like a bee.

I personally don't care who has what.

But, if we are going to be honest then you have to recognise, that places such as Indonesia, Turkiye or Pakistan are not theocracies, they do not have religious governing systems.

Iran is suppose to have a religious system of government, its a theocracy, so it is fair to judge them by their own standards.

Nope, we judge people by what they claim they are. All those leaders of the muslim countries claim to be a pious muslim but they all follow Western style governance and make fun of Islam as a religion. And that is what makes them hypocrites. You think in Indonesia for example they follow the real Islam? LOL... fatma wears a hijab at 10 morning but at 5pm she takes it off on the streets for selfies. What kind of Islam is that? Travel the world a bit and see what a joke it all is. Perhaps, Islam as a religion is truly being implemented in Taliban held areas in Afghanistan. Even that i doubt, because some of those cavemen there distort some rules of the religion to have control etc.
TLDR: No one can claim to be a true muslim nowadays unless they confine themselves into a deserted area and follow 100% what the Quran says.

 

[SalarHaqq]

I personally don't care who has what.

But, if we are going to be honest then you have to recognise, that places such as Indonesia, Turkiye or Pakistan are not theocracies, they do not have religious governing systems.

Iran is suppose to have a religious system of government, its a theocracy, so it is fair to judge them by their own standards.

There are different opinions among Muslim scholars regarding statues, sculptures, paintings and so on. Many ulema do not see a problem in it. This includes Iran's Supreme Leader ayatollah Khamenei, who in terms of scholarly qualification has the rank of marjae taqlid (which is the highest rank in the Shia clergy).

In the section titled Practical Laws of Islam at the website Leader.ir, we can read:

Painting and Sculpture

Q1215. What is the view on making dolls and sculpture, or drawing living beings (plants, animals, and human beings)? And what is the view on selling, buying, acquiring, and exhibiting these items?

A: There is no harm at all in the sculpture, photography and drawings of living beings whether or not they have a soul. Also, it is permissible to sell, buy, or keep pictures and statues. There is no objection to showing them in an exhibition as well.

Practical Laws of Islam

www.leader.ir

This is not exclusive to seyyed Khamenei, various Shia marjas share the same view, and so do some Sunni clerics as well.

So judging the Islamic Republic of Iran by its own standards, those of a theocracy, there will be no objection to the statue either.

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you claim yours Iran as a Islamic republic run by mullahs you hypocrites. Turkey is a secular state run by that kind big difference. Just go learn the sunnah

Replied to right above. There's no hypocrisy involved on the part of the Islamic Republic of Iran. I'd recommend to inform yourself better next time, before dishing out epithets.

 

[peagle]

There are different opinions among Muslim scholars regarding statues, sculptures, paintings and so on. Many ulema do not see a problem in it. This includes Iran's Supreme Leader ayatollah Khamenei, who in terms of scholarly qualification has the rank of marjae taqlid (which is the highest rank in the Shia clergy).

In the section titled Practical Laws of Islam at the website Leader.ir, we can read:

Painting and Sculpture

Q1215. What is the view on making dolls and sculpture, or drawing living beings (plants, animals, and human beings)? And what is the view on selling, buying, acquiring, and exhibiting these items?

A: There is no harm at all in the sculpture, photography and drawings of living beings whether or not they have a soul. Also, it is permissible to sell, buy, or keep pictures and statues. There is no objection to showing them in an exhibition as well.

Practical Laws of Islam

www.leader.ir

This is not exclusive to seyyed Khamenei, various Shia marjas share the same view, and so do some Sunni clerics as well.

So judging the Islamic Republic of Iran by its own standards, those of a theocracy, there will be no objection to the statue either.

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Replied to right above. There's no hypocrisy involved on the part of the Islamic Republic of Iran. I'd recommend to inform yourself better next time, before throwing around epithets.

Interesting, thank you.

 

[kingQamaR]

Islam prohibits drawing images and erecting statues of humans. The matter pertains as much to fiqh (Islamic jurisprudence) as ‘aqidah (Islamic belief system). There are many authentic hadiths (traditions) of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) that testify to this.

According to those hadiths, the image makers are cursed; they are called some of the most evil creation; they will be most severely punished on the Day of Judgment; they will be punished until they breathe life into their “creations”, but they will never be able to do that; and the angels do not enter houses in which there are statues (Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim).

 

[CatSultan]

He has a history of getting cooked.

 

[Beast]

@Dariush the Great you know this guy isn't neither a pure semite nor an ashkenazi... This is a Hindu troll from dirty southern Indian lands who is suffering from the mass effects of Stockholm syndrome. He likes to pretend he is Sammuel, whereas in real life he is SRI GOPI LAAL HARISH CHANDRA DEV.

Typical low caste indian who has the fantasy trying to rub shoulder with their so called high caste Jews. That is how most of indian mentality. That is why low confident indian can never surplass China and always just stuck with an economy of less 3 trillion USD while China going to hit the USD 20 trillion soon.

 

[Maula Jatt]

I personally don't care who has what.

But, if we are going to be honest then you have to recognise, that places such as Indonesia, Turkiye or Pakistan are not theocracies, they do not have religious governing systems.

Iran is suppose to have a religious system of government, its a theocracy, so it is fair to judge them by their own standards.

Islamic republic of Pakistan
Although not a theocracy per se but still an islamic republic where laws get checked by an Islamic court who can struck down laws passed by Parliament if they're found to be in contradiction to Islamic values

For example law to chemically castrate rapists passed by Parliament was struck down as it was considered unislamic and cruel, another example land reforms (afaik I might be wrong or if I read correctly) (something like in east Asia) was struck down by islamic courts
As it was unislamic to take someone's land from them, even if they're rich and own lots of land it doesn't matter

So it's an islamic republic where islamic jurisprudence gets a "veto" right to struck down parliamentary laws if considered unislamic in nature
Not an active governance based on Islam like in a theocracy (something what islamists want) but more of a check and balance where parliament cannot pass laws in contradiction to islamic laws

Federal Shariat Court - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[The SC]

Aren't they...?

Statues in Turkey:

Man almost lynched by Turkish Muslims after trying to damage Atatürk statue in Sakariya:

Statues in Indonesia:

Statues in Turkmenistan:

Statues in Pakistan:

^ Ertugrul Gazi statue.


But these aren't Arab countries, some might be tempted to say...? Well let's take a brief look at Arab countries then.


Statues in Egypt:

^ Statue of Muhammad Ali Pasha.

^ Statue of female singer Umm Khulthum.

^ Busts of former president Abdel Nasser.


Statue in Jordan:

Saudi Arabia:

^ Installed in the framework of some arts exhibition.


So, those individuals who "don't understand the Iranian regime" because it inaugurated a statue of a national hero, and because according to them Islam prohibits any and all forms of statues, should be equally puzzled and bewildered at all these other Muslim (and actually Sunni majority) countries which have no problems whatsoever erecting statues to represent various types of figures. Else, they might want to verify what Islamic teachings have to say about double standards and selective finger pointing.

Let's not even get into some of the bizarre, questionable measures taken by the Saudi regime in relation to one of Islam's main tenets, namely the hajj pilgrimage (including preventing Muslims from effectively pelting with stones the three obelisk-type pillars representing devils during the Rami al-Jamarat procession, since they had walls built all around each of these pillars).

These are all known.. go educate yourself about true Islam first before mentioning Saudi Arabia..
Like if anyone of these heroes and famous people was more important than Our Prophet Mohammad!?
And have you ever seen his statue????????..
Don't mix up cultural misunderstandings of true Islam with what today's " Muslims" are doing.. and paying dearly for..

 

[SalarHaqq]

These are all known.. go educate yourself about true Islam first before mentioning Saudi Arabia..
Like if anyone of these heroes and famous people was more important than Our Prophet Mohammad!?
And have you ever seen his statue????????..
Don't mix up cultural misunderstandings of true Islam with what today's " Muslims" are doing.. and paying dearly for..

This forum is not a place for religious discussion but since you brought up the subject, I already pointed to the fact that opinions of Islamic scholars about statues are not entirely unanimous. There are schools of thought less iconoclastic than that, and they authorize these sculptures, paintings or statues on a religious and not merely cultural basis.

Not depicting someone can have two possible, and in fact diametrically opposite reasons:
- The person is not considered important enough.
- The person has a sacred character, and therefore ought not be materially represented.

So the comparison with the Prophet of Islam (s) does not necessarily apply in the manner of the above quote.

And if you believe statues of national or religious figures other than the Prophet (s) are an issue - which as said is not something that every Islamic scholar will concur with, then you might as well have refrained from singling out Iran.