Siraj Haqqani exposes PAK peace deal

[Black Widow]

Little taste of history for your hypocritical rhetoric.

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This is called Diplomacy... Hope its clear now...

 

[Mabs]

Not to us! Our drones aren't going to be re-programmed ........

Actually in all probability, they will be. After all, United States has just opened up a new programming department in Qatar recently.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

LOL ... after this confirmation, Amrikans in Afghanistan would be winding up more quickly.
Well done Pakistan

 

[Malik Usman]

Not to us! Our drones aren't going to be re-programmed ........

This is called................If you killd one man you are murderer, if you kill 10s and hunderds you are terrorist....and if you kill millions (Iraq, Libya, Afganistan, Sudan etc.) you are conqueror.

 

[Mav3rick]

^^^^^pakistanitarzan, Sir, the point of this "news" is that, contrary to what they are saying to the USA and to the Pakistani public, the ISI and PA are colluding with the Afghan Taliban. The "news" is that the cozy relationship between the Afghani taliban, who attack ISAF and Afghan forces in Afghanistan, and the ISI/PA has been publicly acknowledged by Siraj Haqqani for the first time.

So PA and Haqqani network/Mullah Omer network agreed on peace after November last year which means PA/ISI were helping the Afghan Talibaan before that? Honestly, that the best you could do??? And who is the real aggressor/terrorist here, the ones who are defending their country from invading forces or the invading forces??

 

[Bratva]

You are lying. Afghan Taliban when in power happily murdered civilians, particularly targetted shias and hazaras. That murderous regime was fully supported and recognised by Pakistan. Your consul general to herat was colonel imam!!! Heck Pakistan was fully militarily supporting them, obviously they were not ''against'' pakistan.

Pakistan still wants those murderous savages for Afghanistan, but not for Pakistan. Your hypocricy is astounding.

Why indians don't lecture this to americans as well who are negotiating with these savages in QATAR????? Indians only lecturing Pakistanis, while forgetting the main component behind these negotiations is America. America recognized Taliban as a key player in Afghanistan, that's why they were allowed to open their Offices in QATAR, but still knowing all this, Your hypocricy is astounding Mr.

 

[notsuperstitious]

Why indians don't lecture this to americans as well who are negotiating with these savages in QATAR????? Indians only lecturing Pakistanis, while forgetting the main component behind these negotiations is America. America recognized Taliban as a key player in Afghanistan, that's why they were allowed to open their Offices in QATAR, but still knowing all this, Your hypocricy is astounding Mr.

Americans talking to Talibs for peace in Afghanistan and Pakistanis Talking to Talibs for bloodshed in Afghanistan is the same thing only for a terrorism apologist. No shortage of that species in Pakistan.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Americans talking to Talibs for peace in Afghanistan and Pakistanis Talking to Talibs for bloodshed in Afghanistan is the same thing only for a terrorism apologist. No shortage of that species in Pakistan.

to summarise your post in one word ... LOL
nothing can change now, things are over for Indian role in Afghanistan.
what ever your allegations are, there is no use, cry as much as possible.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Not to us! Our drones aren't going to be re-programmed ........

there was some suggestion few months back

before that Mullah Omar, Gulbadin and Haqqani etc disassociated themselves from TTP activities and said that Afghan taliban were only interested in ending the American occupation asnd what TTP was doing was wrong. they even tried to use their influence to stop TTP attacks on Pakistani forces and the tribesmen but to very limited success.

whenever such stories were published they were followed up with the incidents of TTP executing the Pakistani soldiers and killing of tribal elders and their followers who were against the TTP.

the post you have quoted is very insensitive and insulting to us because TTP is responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Pakistanis. it is like poking fun at Americans for starting to talk to the Afghan insurgents in Doha and Saudi Arabia .

Pakistan tried every avenue to get the TTP to stop its terrorism, we had the Imam of Mecca come here and give a fatwa against terrorism, our religious scholars and writers wrote and preached against it. our politicians did and many of us lost our lives doing so. we used the talks when that worked it didnt mean that we were appeasing them. the paramount objective was to avoid unnecessary loss of life and chaos.

thats what the outsiders fail to see and make disgraceful remarks. I think AbhimanyuShrivastav should go and ask the children of Rajev Gandhi if they consider the remaining Tamil tigers good terrorists because their fight has ended now?

 

[SQ8]

This is called Diplomacy... Hope its clear now...

Good thing you understood Pakistan's position then.

 

[Saifullah Sani]

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told senior Pakistani parliamentarians that it was the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) which had facilitated Washington’s dialogue with the Haqqani militant network
http://zeenews.**********/news/south-asia/isi-facilitated-us-haqqani-network-dialogue_738003.html

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Americans talking to Talibs for peace in Afghanistan and Pakistanis Talking to Talibs for bloodshed in Afghanistan is the same thing only for a terrorism apologist. No shortage of that species in Pakistan.

why did you decide that we are talking for bloodshed in Afghanistan?
very ill-thought comment.

we loose the right to complain about TTP if we support the bloodshed in Afghanistan.

the people have sympathies with Afghans fighting the occupation there is no change since the last Super power invaded this place only the invaders have changed.

but the government is not supporting the fight and bloodshed in Afghanistan because it has adverse effects on us. we already have 6 million Afghans all over Pakistan due to the Afghan war and it doesnt suit us that the whole Afghanistan has to come to us to avoid the bloodshed. please talk sense.

time and again it is explained that having contacts with the taliban doesn't mean we are supporting them. its the same contact that actually enabled the Americans to have peace talks. you have to sit down eventually.. the gun is not the solution to everything.

yes we have terrorist sympathizers who support the terrorists but not just in Afghanistan but in Pakistan too but they are not that many as you suggest otherwise this region would have been a complete disaster by now.

if both Americans and taliban want to continue to fight each other then there is not much chance for an early settlement and you cant blame Pakistan for such failure because it has been advocating restraint and negotiations from day one and has been the facilitator in talks. peace in Afghanistan means peace in Pakistan and end of TTP which is using the chaos in the region to its advantage.

 

[AbhimanyuShrivastav]

thats what the outsiders fail to see and make disgraceful remarks. I think AbhimanyuShrivastav should go and ask the children of Rajev Gandhi if they consider the remaining Tamil tigers good terrorists because their fight has ended now?

No they dont.. Because a Good terrorist is an oxymoron. Unfortunately, segments of Pakistani establishment have not yet come to terms with that fact and they keep making that distinction between terrorists that attack others vs terrorists that attack Pakistan.

Hence my comment that if the news is true and TTP is joining up with AT to attack NATO, then from that segments in Pakistani exstablishment's perspective, all these organizations are good terrorists..

 

[Irfan Baloch]

This pics is similar to

this

and this

and this

and this

and finally this

This is called Diplomacy... Hope its clear now...

good lad,
thats a good post now make sure you send the link of this post to every other Indian too who thinks that having talks and meetings like these pictures above means Pakistan is supporting the Taliban in fighting the Americans.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

According to well-informed sources in jehadi circles,

thus giving credence to media speculations

The militant circles in Pakistan say


these phrases are picked up from the opening article that pretty much gives you an idea about the quality of this so called "revelation" I wont be surpised if any of the above speculations cant be traced back to any militant website or actual physical pamphlets.

when a speculation is presented as a fact and proof then it pretty much gives you the idea who these so called "well informed Jihadi circles are". would these so called circles exist in the mind of the writer or some a group of people sitting anywhere in the world? I let you decide. but they are churning out stories after stories to build up the case against Pakistan.

whats more, the 26 Nov NATO supply is quoted too for the same purpose but after that there have been many incidents where the tribesmen have been targeted and the FC and army soldiers have been executed. that pretty much shows what TTP thinks of this so called claim.

it is true that the Taliban fighting in Afghanistan have said that TTP in Pakistan doesnt represent them and they dont support its fight against Pakistan. actually they invited TTP to fight against the occupation to show it really is what it claims to be but TTP has continued to fight Pakistani forces and the tribesmen only. it has time and again declared that its target and scope of Operation is only Pakistan.


coming to Afghan Taliban, just because they are seeking the help from everyone to fight occupation doesnt make Pakistan guilty by association just because we have links with them. the Afghan taliban actually have requested the help of all Muslims in the world to help end the occupation so does it mean all other Muslim countries are also colluding with taliban?

forgive me to say it but I am sure that the article is written and based on assumed reports and allegations and I doubt if they will lead to anything. yes if you extrapolate and then assume what Siraj Haqqani might have said and what he actually wanted to say or what he didnt say then the proofs can be as big as your imagination and creative thinking.