Its always a folly to term all views contrasting with yours as shallow and incorrect. You assume that nothing did come out of hot and cold blowing ( oops) of USA. I personally believe that Pakistan did give in, however last year or so was spent in laying the ground to make this attack more palatable to the Pakistani public by allowing terrorists to wreck mayhem in Pakistan and hence by making it seem more of a Pakistani war rather than an American one. If it was done 2 years back, the chances were that Pakistan would have descended into a civil war. Now, the hits will still be hard, but a lot of public opinion is against he Taliban.
It would be "folly" only if the "contrasting views" were not purely speculative, as are yours when you claim that "the $900 million US funds and potential MI-35 deal are behind the Pakistani decision to conduct a military operation in NW".
In fact, you sort of agree with the point I made earlier, that the Pakistani government and military establishment had decided several years ago (certainly by the time Kayani took over the COAS position, and probably even earlier) that a Taliban controlled Afghanistan was not in Pakistan's interests. Where we disagree is that the "change in policy" was brought about by US "sticks and carrots". If nothing else, the one thing multiple high level US officials and commentators have agreed on is that neither sticks nor carrots have worked to shift Pakistani policy making on issues that Pakistan regards as vital to her national security interests - whether the nuclear program or the refusal to go after the groups in NW without broad political consensus and national support.
Yet, despite all the evidence to the contrary, you continue to argue that "US sticks and carrots influenced Pakistani policy making" - therefore your comments (and similar comments from parts of the Indian intelligentsia) are correctly described as "shallow and puerile".
Calling something demonstrably false without any real demonstration of the same is simply lame in my view.
To the contrary, I have clearly "demonstrated" how your comments are "demonstrably false" - your entire premise is based on speculation and conspiracy theories of some sort of "secret pact/arrangement" over the past few years in which the US dictated Pakistani policy making. You have offered no evidence to support this alleged chain of events, and in fact, as I have pointed out in the my last few responses to you, the overwhelming evidence available publicly points to the opposite of what you claim - that US officials were openly frustrated by the Pakistani refusal to follow US diktat irregardless of the US "sticks and carrots" employed as leverage.
Again lame, specially since you went around the town talking about prospects of India Pakistan peace in the thread that had no linkage with that topic
"Went around town" - yet more unsubstantiated and exaggerated commentary - I dissected your demonstrably flawed commentary on the rationale behind the recent Pakistani offensive in NW, and linked the underlying factors behind said "shallow and puerile analysis" to a broader affliction the Indian intelligentsia suffers from when it comes to analyzing Pakistan and Pakistanis.
Bros what I personally think is that indeed pak army is discriminating b/w the two sects of Taliban.Our ISI marks out the targets and takes out the foreign Uzbeks and other foreign funded organisations through precision airstrikes.Pak army can not think of killing the people of Haqani network because these people are the ones who are fighting the jihad against America in Afghanistan.Haqani network was made by the pak army and even people from our pak army have fought on their side in the Afghan jihad.what do you guys say? And what are your views about the Haqani network?
The Haqqanis in North Waziristan are "guests" of the Gul Bahadur group. Tribal dynamics being what they are, the presence of a strong militarized "indigenous" group (Bahadur's Taliban) means that the Haqqanis (or any other group - Uzbeks, TTP, AQ) cannot survive in NW without their support. Gul Bahadur however has publicly declared the peace agreement with the Pakistani Military to be over, demanded that local residents evacuate to Afghanistan (instead of Pakistan), called for local residents to take up arms and support his Taliban group in "defending North Waziristan against the Pakistani Army". Given all of that, and the recent ISPR statement that the Haqqanis will be targeted along with all other groups, I don't see the Pakistani military as having any option BUT to target ALL Taliban groups in NW.