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The "main concern" that led to the termination of the Kuala Lumpur-Singapore High-Speed Rail (HSR) project was Malaysia's suggestion that the assets company that was to manage the project be removed, said Minister for Transport Ong Ye Kung on Monday (Jan 4).

A joint tender for an assets company for the HSR project was called by Malaysia's MyHSR and Singapore's SG HSR in December 2017.

The assets company would have been necessary to ensure the interests of both countries were protected and minimise the possibility of future disputes over the HSR, Mr Ong told Parliament.

He noted that neither Malaysia nor Singapore had experience in running a high-speed rail line and so it had been agreed that a "best-in-class industry player" would be appointed to act as an assets company through an "open and transparent international tender".

This company would have supplied the train system as well as operated the network, and would have been accountable to both countries.

The removal of the assets company represented a "fundamental departure" from the bilateral agreement and could not be accepted, said Mr Ong.

Malaysia then decided to allow the agreement to be terminated, he added.


 
What's the reason behind the cancellation? Lack of budget?
 
The previous Najib administration and Singapore signed into contract, to have a neutral "Asset company", serving as a firewall against corruption (Malays always give bloated price, kickbacks to their contractors). Current PM Muhyiddin wants to remove the "asset company".

Singapore cannot agree.

(Note: Without "asset company", 1000% sure Malay will corrupt and charge 1000% to Singapore)
 
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The "main concern" that led to the termination of the Kuala Lumpur-Singapore High-Speed Rail (HSR) project was Malaysia's suggestion that the assets company that was to manage the project be removed, said Minister for Transport Ong Ye Kung on Monday (Jan 4).

A joint tender for an assets company for the HSR project was called by Malaysia's MyHSR and Singapore's SG HSR in December 2017.

The assets company would have been necessary to ensure the interests of both countries were protected and minimise the possibility of future disputes over the HSR, Mr Ong told Parliament.

He noted that neither Malaysia nor Singapore had experience in running a high-speed rail line and so it had been agreed that a "best-in-class industry player" would be appointed to act as an assets company through an "open and transparent international tender".

This company would have supplied the train system as well as operated the network, and would have been accountable to both countries.

The removal of the assets company represented a "fundamental departure" from the bilateral agreement and could not be accepted, said Mr Ong.

Malaysia then decided to allow the agreement to be terminated, he added.



Has the construction of HSR infrastructure been started yet ???
 
If "start" means land acquisition, site preparation at Singapore ONLY, then HSR has started. Not sure how Malaysia is moving.

In this regard, Malay elites are far inferior than Javanese. Stupid, greedy, corrupt, incompetent, last but not least always shout Islam Islam...

Javanese can get things done.

Has the construction of HSR infrastructure been started yet ???
 
If "start" means land acquisition, site preparation at Singapore ONLY, then HSR has started. Not sure how Malaysia is moving.

In this regard, Malay elites are far inferior than Javanese. Stupid, greedy, corrupt, incompetent, last but not least always shout Islam Islam...

Javanese can get things done.
Ethnic Malay elites has welfare and privilege granted by the government, while ethnic Chinese do the economy and bring development opportunities. If ethnic Chinese joined the Singapore in 1965, they have had at least 5 times better income.

No wonder ethnic Malay is less competent, and one of the most corrupted government in recent decades.
 
Javanese can get things done.

Sundanese, second biggest ethnic in Indonesia also a hard working people, our main industries are in their region, West Java, and most workers there are Sundanese. Main industry in West Java (Kerawang) with minimum salary (410 USD permonth) has similar productivity with Vietnamese workers. West Java is also one of main rice producer in the country, showing that they are also a hard working farmers.

Next President in 2024 would possibly Sundanese. Muhammad Ridwan Kamil. He is current West Java governor, second most important province after Jakarta.

The interview when he was still a Bandung city major.


For information: Javanese (Central Java+East Java), Sundanese (West Java). They have different language and have different kingdom in the past, even Majapahit empire with territory until Thailand and Philippine never absorbed Sundanese kingdom in West Java.
 
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Without Singapore looking over their shoulders, the cancellation allows the rampant corruptions by the other party - same old story of siphoning funds to enrich the politicians and contractors alike!
 
Sundanese, second biggest ethnic in Indonesia also a hard working people, our main industries are in their region, West Java and most workers there are Sundanese. Main industry in West Java (Kerawang) with minimum salary (410 USD permonth) has similar productivity with Vietnamese workers.

Next President in 2024 would possibly Sundanese. Muhammad Ridwan Kamil. He is current West Java governor, second most important province after Jakarta.

The interview when he was still a Bandung city major.

It seems to me that Ridwan Kamil is very westernized.
 
All these are Java people. Java people are way more cultured than Malays. Malaysian Malays are the among most corrupt in the whole world. I read Lee Kuan Yew memoir, it mentioned Tunku Abdul Rahman father of Malaysia has inferior complex towards Sukarno (something like that, if I never remember wrongly...)

Worse Malays has more mix of Indian and Arab blood.

Below is typical Javanese look General Suharto. Many upper class Javanaese Sudanese look like Chinese-Thai mixed. Or look Borneo Dayak. (pic 1)

Malay look very different. Malay look like Arab-Indians-negrittos-East Asian mixed (pic 2).

This could be big reason far more Indonesian Chinese integrate and adopt Islam than Malaysian Chinese. Also Indonesian Islam is far far more progressive.

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Sundanese, second biggest ethnic in Indonesia also a hard working people, our main industries are in their region, West Java and most workers there are Sundanese. Main industry in West Java (Kerawang) with minimum salary (410 USD permonth) has similar productivity with Vietnamese workers.

Next President in 2024 would possibly Sundanese. Muhammad Ridwan Kamil. He is current West Java governor, second most important province after Jakarta.

The interview when he was still a Bandung city major.

 
Without Singapore looking over their shoulders, the cancellation allows the rampant corruptions by the other party - same old story of siphoning funds to enrich the politicians and contractors alike!
Politicians can get kickbacks even before planning, such as subway, those realtors will bribe the governors to make subway favor their real-estate.

See India weapon trade drama? All those foreign weapon dealers will have to bribe India government elites with kickbacks. Then the deal will be cancelled, and bidding will start a few years later over and over again.

BJP canceled 126 Rafael deal when Congress was in charge, then BJP start buying 36 Rafael when BJP is in charge, 200 million per Rafael. How much kickback?
 
It seems to me that Ridwan Kamil is very westernized.

Many Indonesian young leaders get good education and have good command of English. At least our new potential generation leaders are master degree holder at minimum and one of them like Jakarta governor is a Phd holder. You can look some of them in latest page of Indonesia economic thread being interviewed/having discussion in English.

While Soekarno, first leader is bachelor degree, Soeharto is soldier, Habibie is Phd, Gusdur is bachelor degree, Megawati just study in university (drop out)-our worst President, SBY is soldier (US educated military academy), Jokowi is bachelor degree. Actually all the leaders here can speak English well, including Soekarno.
 
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That's not the reason, that's the official excuse.
It makes no sense economic wise.
Singapore and Malaysia haven’t much people. The demand would be minimal.
It’s better to wait on Vietnam Hsr. We have 100 million people. Different scenario.
 

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