SINDH HIGH COURT STAYS NUCLEAR POWER PLANT CONSTRUCTION

[Waffen SS]

کیوں جی پاکستان نیوکلیئر پاور پلانٹ کیوں نہیں لگا سکتا کون کہتا ہے کہ پاکستان غریب کنٹری ہے اگر اس ملک کا وزیراعظم اور وزیر خزانہ منشی اسحق اور گو نواز گو انگلینڈ اور دبئی میں ملٹی سٹوری پلازے بنا سکتے ہیں تو ملک کے چاہنے والے نیوکلیئر پاور پلانٹ کیوں نہیں لگا سکتے. اور رہی غربت کی بات تو یہ ان سیاستدانوں حرامیوں کی وجہ سے غربت ہے. سندھ میں کوئلے کے ذخائر اور بلوچستان میں سونے کے ذخائر اور گیس کے ذخائر اور پنجاب کو تو ابھی کھنگالا ہی نہیں گیا. Waffen-SS پاکستان غریب نہیں ہے ہماری سوچیں عجیب غریب ہیں ہم ذہنی غریب ہیں غلامانہ سوچیں ہیں ہماری.
یہ ھود بائی شرمین چنائے جیسے لوگ تو بکے ھوئے لوگ ہیں ان کے گھروں میں سب کچھ ہے این جی اوز کے حوالوں سے ان کو غریب کی کیا پرواہ

بھائی صاحب، پانی سے بجلی بنانا آسان بھی ہے اور سستا بھی۔ ایٹمی توانائی کے نخرے ہم نہیں اٹھا سکتے۔ یہ ترقی یافتہ ممالک کے چونچلے ہیں۔

ہم سوزوکی گاڑی پر ہی گزارہ کرلیں تو بڑی بات ہے، مرسیڈیز کی سواری ہمارے بس کی بات نہیں۔

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

a) The federal Government should enable the construction of the Nuclear Power plants at all Cost
b) Setup Kala Bagh Dam

PPP is holding Sindh / Karachi back and that has to chance

Kash, Musharaf's NRO was not cancelled where would be our nation in 7-8 years of prosperity

 

[tarrar]

There should be a constitutional amendment taking away the power of stay orders from the courts. These SOBs have turned Pakistan into stayistan... And someone please whack this effin' bastard hoodbhoy... The a.hole is against everything under the blue sky.

Ameen to that brother, Ameen.

I don't know what kind of politicians are these, they are against every developmental program that benefits Pakistan. Kala Bagh Dam, Bhasha dam & now this. These LAWS should be changed & a new LAW should be brought in which should be, anything or any project that benefits Pakistan will be build or made no matter what. Pakistan's interests should come first.

People who stand against the developmental project show how much loyal they are with Pakistan, & if their bank accounts are checked then the picture will get even clearer on from where these corrupt politicians jabronis are getting their scripts from. We know who is opposing Kala Bagh dam & Bhasha dam, now the same lobby is opposing this.

 

[Bilal.]

@tarrar if it were up to then they would have us live in caves...

 

[Shadow_Hunter]

Nothing surprising, all chinese power projects in South East Asia are under opposition by activists due to the quality of their EIA. The chinese government has used brutal force to achieve its objectives in some of those areas. In Myanmar, many workers were treated as slaves when a pipeline was being constructed.

 

[pak-marine]

Can we setup these plants in Punjab?

no we always keep the problems away from our home

 

[wadi79]

I am not sure why Pakistan's government wants to put up the reactors close to Karachi. Why not do it in a place such as Balochistan, where population density is low and (I hope not!) if something goes wrong, the impact will be less.

For all those talking about 'impeccable safety record', 'no tsunami in Karachi', please remember that till the time Fukushima accident happened, it was a 'never before' event. Up to that point, the Fukushima plant had an impeccable safety record and there had been no tsunamis of that size in that area. Ever. Institutional human memory is barely 100 years old (meteorological records, records of natural disasters, earthquakes etc) - so just because something hasn't happened since we started keeping a record, doesn't mean it can't happen. Nature has a habit of throwing up surprises, and the best response to those is to act in such a way that even if things go wrong, the impact is minimal. In case of Pakistan, there is also the additional risk of terrorists targeting the installation. We can't predict where the next earthquake will strike or where the next floods will happen or where the terrorists will strike, but we can follow some heuristics to minimize our risk - many small dams instead of one or two large dams or nuclear power plants away from large population centres.

I am sure the Chinese design has many safety features and is the best they can offer. However, it is not completely failure-proof - no man-made design can boast that, whether from China, India, France, US or Russia. So do go ahead with nuclear energy, but just site it away from a large metro. Electricity transmission lines are not very expensive - I am sure they can connect demand centres to this plant.

 

[Chak Bamu]

These plants should be relocated to Baluchistan. That is the best solution. All those calling these plants unsafe need to realize that nothing is actually safe, ever. Anything can go wrong at any time. This can not be an excuse for shunning development & progress.

Japan has been a victim of Tsunami numerous times (hence the Japanese word 'Tsunami' for the phenomenon). However, these plants can have protective features, just in case.

@Waffen SS , I disagree with you about your views regarding Pakistanis. If we had such a bad work-ethic, we would not be the preferred choice in GCC countries. I will not get into nuances or get lost in an unwarranted tangent, but I must observe that your depiction is flawed and defeatist. Not all Pakistanis are government employees.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I think , Federal Decisions should override any provincial decisions

There is no reason for Stay in construction of Nuclear power plants electricity is needed
Sindh (mostly PPP) is causing disruption

a) Due to Kala Bag Opposition
b) Now with Power plant construction using Nuclear Technology

 

[Waffen SS]

I think , Federal Decisions should override any provincial decisions

There is no reason for Stay in construction of Nuclear power plants electricity is needed
Sindh (mostly PPP) is causing disruption

a) Due to Kala Bag Opposition
b) Now with Power plant construction using Nuclear Technology

What a paradox. On one hand we are talking about a federation and on the other hand we are talking about overriding provincial units. Imperialist and colonial attitudes now need to go away.

Federation does not have provinces; in fact, it's the other way around. Provinces make the Federation. Provinces should have more powers than the Center. No one has the right to become THAIKEYDAAR of Pakistan or any province. The provincial unit has the right to decide for themselves.

Four provinces joined together to create Pakistan. Pakistan did not create four provinces.

By the way, the Stay Order has been given by a Court; and governments cannot override any judicial order.

 

[jha]

What a paradox. On one hand we are talking about a federation and on the other hand we are talking about overriding provincial units. Imperialist and colonial attitudes now need to go away.

Federation does not have provinces; in fact, it's the other way around. Provinces make the Federation. Provinces should have more powers than the Center. No one has the right to become THAIKEYDAAR of Pakistan or any province. The provincial unit has the right to decide for themselves.

Four provinces joined together to create Pakistan. Pakistan did not create four provinces.

By the way, the Stay Order has been given by a Court; and governments cannot override any judicial order.

Exactly.. This is something people need to understand.

In this case for example, if a section of Karachites do not want a Nuke near their home, its perfectly understandable. Who in his right mind would prefer to live besides a Nuke plant..? Those who keep talking about Pakistan's interest should remember that Karachi is also Pakistan and there is no reason why this plant can not be moved to a remote location.

 

[Yogi]

Sindh is against everything development. Because Sindh wants to stay like jahil feudals. They love getting banged by their waderas.

On topic, I always thought it was a bad Idea to put any Nuclear plant in close proximity to a major city. They might want to explore the land somewhere in Balochistan where there are no population issues. All you have to do is setup a township for employees, which PAEC already does, and extend the powerlines. Electricity travels at the near speed of light in a good conductor, so distance isn't exactly of concern here, neither is access to fuel, since you are not importing coal/oil/gas that you need access to a port.



It's a valid concern. Punjab has too many population centers. Ideal place would be Balochistan or Interior Sindh.

Nuclear plants need a lot of water to cool them thats why most of them r set up near water bodies like lake, rivers or ocean.

If i m not wrong then both balochitan n interior Sind r deserts plus Balochistan is highly prone to earthquakes.

So, Balochistan n Interior Sind might not prove to be as ideal as u thought for these plants.

 

[Donatello]

Nuclear plants need a lot of water to cool them thats why most of them r set up near water bodies like lake, rivers or ocean.

If i m not wrong then both balochitan n interior Sind r deserts plus Balochistan is highly prone to earthquakes.

So, Balochistan n Interior Sind might not prove to be as ideal as u thought for these plants.

Ever heard of a thing called 'river' ?

 

[Nadeem Kahlon]

A project can not be started without the approval of EIA report. The anti-nuclear lobbies are using tactics to delay the Karachi nuclear power project. They think wind and solar are alternative option. These technologies have capacity factors from 12%-20% if we see world average data. By replacing nuclear power with renewable we have to install 4 times more capacity. Even then reliability of system can not be ensured. These type of the people are actually leading the earth system to 6 degree C climate change scenario which will certainly bring disasters for the poor world. The poor are responsible of one-quarter of the emissions while getting three-quarters of total losses due to climate change as they have lack of adaptation capabilities.