Lot of links to "prove" IVC knew irrigation, nothing suggests south-north movement or they did not move eastwards. Even with the links, they do not talk about dams but channel irrigation. Just to rub it into you, Archeology supports the idea that IVC moved eastwards during their decline. Read "The Indo-Aryan Controversy: Evidence and Inference in Indian History" Page 4.
It is funny that suddenly you posted right wing website as "proof". Do you agree on everything they say?? but if you want scholarly opinion about Bharatavarsha and origin of term India/ Bharat, you might want to refer to "The Indian Empire: Its People, History, and Products" by sir William W. Hunter
For port cities, there was no material that suggested there was any "port" in those settlements. Try again please. If you post non-scholarly sources, it will be waste of time.
Meluhha to IVC is OK, but I said that meant Lothal but not Megargh.. where is the link that says what you said?
Mr. Linkman Seeker, at times please use your brain if you have one instead of merely seeking links.
Majority of the limited number of people who moved from their small settlements in the desert in south moved to locations within the IVC landmass. And they did not move due to the decrease in monsoons as the desert receives limited amount of rains during the monsoons in the first place. Movement of people did not need to take place from west to east due to decrease in monsoon, as alternative methods of irrigation were available and were being effectively used. Decrease of monsoons in Indian heartland creates drought like conditions due to lack of use of alternative irrigation methodology. And because it happens in Indian heartland, it would also have happened in Pakistan is merely based on presumptuous thinking and not facts. The reason of presenting links of alternative and varied irrigation methodology used by the people of IVC was to highlight the same.
The claims of IVC movement towards the Genges valley in my opinion are concocted by the Indians. Some movement may have taken place to Ganges valley much much later after the fading out of Indus Valley Civilization. And it was not due to lessening of monsoons.
Please do understand the context of
The Indo-Aryan Controversy: Evidence and Inference in Indian History. The Aryans never invaded the IVC in the first place as a lot of available evidence confirms this fact, and neither migrated in large numbers within a short span of time to culturally effect the environment. Therefore, they would not have possibly pushed the IVC people from east to west into Ganges valley, due to their invasion or migration. These Aryans could have moved into the Ganges valley directly from Central Asia without settling inside the IVC or unsettling the people of IVC. The settlements could be Aryan settlements but not the IVC settlements.
I am not concerned with left or right wing leanings. I am concerned with the facts which I can confirm through varied sources. And I do not know which of my links you are referring to as a right wing web site. In any case, you are a proponent of Hindutva Brigade yourself – which is good enough to understand your leanings. It is laughable when you ask me to seek the meaning of Bharatversha from a western quote. William W. Hunter doesn’t identify India as Bharatversh – he further quotes from Indian references and quotes some Indians who identify their land as Bharatversh.
All the links about IVC ports identify these as coastal trading outposts, harbors or ports, including Lothal. Please open your eyes wide enough to read and understand what has been written in bold enough letters.
You said that location of Meluhha has not been identified as the IVC. I posted the link stating that it has been identified as such.
It is quite amazing as well as sad.
Negative identity where people just know what they are not, not knowing what they are...
That is the root cause of many of the troubles of the country.
This thread again shows how deep the problem really is. It is again about negative identity of denial, of claiming that they are not something.
Now knowing what they are...
That is not even an issue it seems!
Living example of physical flame-out being experienced.
Ye dhuan sa kahan se uthta hai