Shenyang J-15 aircraft carrier-based aircraft

[Akasa]

Do you know if that catapult in question (with the J-15B) is EMALS or Steam?

I think there was a discussion a while back claiming that it was electromagnetic, but it's not confirmed.

 

[rcrmj]

The original iteration of the J-15 is NOT catapult-compatible because it does not have the necessary landing gears to absorb the added stress and forces of a catapult launch. I'm not sure why it's so difficult for you to understand that, especially when 24 of the original configuration have been built.

the hull structure, the enhancements of the joints, the engine thrust control software, weapon management software and ect (I've been saying too much```), tell me 眼神党```fitting a fat gear is that difficult so that they have to give them a new designation of B? there few dozens of 阶段性改进, you need A/B/C/D/E/F for all your sake for those changes``

its like one of my friends bought a GTR, the speed limit is 260Km, but a change made to the software can lift the speed limit set from the factory which is according to China's speed regulation````so tell me, is this GTR physically capable of going over 260KM??

and the most stupidest thing is for you to say "The original iteration of the J-15 is NOT catapult-compatible"``the whole team would be sacked if they thought and made a plane that way``

what I am saying to you is not my opinion, or some senior fan's analysis, but from someone who actually works on the deck, notes the number, vomitting like no tomorrow, or someone were envolved in the mentioned initial debates and researches before any of the known projects were begun

so again, not personal, but all your thoughts and believes of projects of J-15s and future AC based 5th gen have no touch of reality and inside sources```as simple as that

 

[Akasa]

the hull structure, the enhancements of the joints, the engine thrust control software, weapon management software and ect (I've been saying too much```), tell me 眼神党```fitting a fat gear is that difficult so that they have to give them a new designation of B? there few dozens of 阶段性改进, you need A/B/C/D/E/F for all your sake for those changes``

its like one of my friends bought a GTR, the speed limit is 260Km, but a change made to the software can lift the speed limit set from the factory which is according to China's speed regulation````so tell me, is this GTR physically capable of going over 260KM??

and the most stupidest thing is for you to say "The original iteration of the J-15 is NOT catapult-compatible"``the whole team would be sacked if they thought and made a plane that way``

what I am saying to you is not my opinion, or some senior fan's analysis, but from someone who actually works on the deck, notes the number, vomitting like no tomorrow, or someone were envolved in the mentioned initial debates and researches before any of the known projects were begun

so again, not personal, but all your thoughts and believes of projects of J-15s and future AC based 5th gen have no touch of reality and inside sources```as simple as that

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt if you so claim that your relatives work on military projects, although we have yet to see evidence that the J-15 can easily swap out its old landing gear for catapult-compatible ones. Then, we must ask, is this new J-15 (the one seen on the electromagnetic catapult) merely an "original" J-15 with catapult gear or the first prototype of what you call the "J-15B"?

 

[samsara]

J-15 s/n #123

dafeng cao @xinfengcao 2017-10-01

 

[Figaro]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt if you so claim that your relatives work on military projects, although we have yet to see evidence that the J-15 can easily swap out its old landing gear for catapult-compatible ones. Then, we must ask, is this new J-15 (the one seen on the electromagnetic catapult) merely an "original" J-15 with catapult gear or the first prototype of what you call the "J-15B"?

If someone needs to say that, I would not trust them ...

 

[grey boy 2]

J-15 "123"

 

[grey boy 2]

 

[cirr]

PLA Daily article reporting the successful launch by EMALS of J-15X

“勇当海军试飞奠基人”

仲秋时节，辽西某机场。某发展型号战斗机上，海军试飞大队首任大队长程海林全副武装坐在驾驶舱，严阵以待。各项准备工作已经就绪，可天公似乎也有意考验程海林，能见度远远低于标值。到底飞不飞？现场最有决定权的程海林稍作权衡，果断发出了“照常试飞”的信号。

加力、对接、冲刺、拉杆……伴随着震耳欲聋的轰鸣，战机短距离冲天而起！成功了！

程海林的这次极限挑战，使得国防科技领域又一项空白被填补，海军试飞领域树起又一座里程碑。……

1991年程海林被招飞入伍。随后的17年间，从空军到海军，从学校到部队，从初教机到高教机，从二代机到最新型战机，程海林几乎飞过海军所有型号战机。他安全飞行2100多小时，成长为一名优秀的战斗机飞行员。

2008年底，海军在“海空雄鹰团”遴选首批舰载战斗机试飞员，程海林急不可耐地报了名。他过五关斩六将，如愿以偿成为“飞鲨”战机试飞团队的一员。正当程海林踌躇满志地准备驾机上舰时，上级经过对训练、人力等资源的统筹，却安排他去试飞舰载战斗机的教练机。该型教练机是海军舰载战斗机训练的主机型，程海林服从了组织安排。

在接下来的几年里，程海林辗转几地，试飞了多种机型。当他受命来到新成立的舰载航空兵部队时，首批舰载战斗机飞行员培训任务正在展开。组织上考虑安排他当教练，程海林提出了自己的想法：“教练必须具备驾机上舰的理论和实践。”他坚持地面苦练、空中精飞，既完成了放尾钩定点着陆、增阻轮挡直线斜线滑跃起飞等任务，还啃下了航母新一代阻拦索改进、地面加速冲索等试验鉴定“硬骨头”。2014年底，程海林驾驶歼-15舰载战斗机在辽宁舰上成功阻拦着舰和滑跃起飞，通过了航母飞行资质认证。

航母舰载战斗机出现之前，海军试飞任务一直依托空军。航母舰载战斗机试飞的坎坷历程深刻启示，航母舰载战斗机是海军特有，必须走独立自主的试飞路子。于是，2015年底，海军试飞大队应运而生。程海林被任命为首任大队长。……上任不久的程海林刚刚搭起大队的架子，还在四处招兵买马，就接到了新的任命：航母建设某核心技术试验试飞现场指挥部试飞指挥组组长兼首席试飞员。

全新设计的试验机、全新研制的装置、尚未定型的飞机发动机、未知的飞行轨迹……飞机性能究竟如何、装置是否过关、起飞后状态是否可控……面对一个个生死攸关的“未知”，程海林坚定地说：“海军试飞大队一定要为海军争气！”

他一头扎进飞机和装置的相关研制资料之中，虚心向研制专家求教，反复研究相关资料，短时间内整理出5万多字的笔记。

首飞当天上午，上级领导和有关研制单位、部队的同志齐聚试验场，共同见证一个伟大的时刻。

可天公不作美，在能见度上出了难题。但在程海林看来，试飞本身就是向风险的挑战。他以堪称完美的一试，有效验证了装置与试验机的良好适配性，宣告了我国航母建设领域取得了世界领先的重大突破。

这一试，不仅再次印证了程海林的高超技能，也试出了新生的试飞大队的战斗力，书写了海军试飞事业的新传奇。

程海林带头试高难科目，带头飞风险项目，牢牢把住质量关口和安全底数，积极与工业部门共同研讨完善试验流程细则，驾驶试验机完成了一系列开创性试验试飞任务，先后提出意见建议20余条，为后续装备的研制和试验试飞积累了宝贵经验。

 

[Akasa]

PLA Daily article reporting the successful launch by EMALS of J-15X

“勇当海军试飞奠基人”

仲秋时节，辽西某机场。某发展型号战斗机上，海军试飞大队首任大队长程海林全副武装坐在驾驶舱，严阵以待。各项准备工作已经就绪，可天公似乎也有意考验程海林，能见度远远低于标值。到底飞不飞？现场最有决定权的程海林稍作权衡，果断发出了“照常试飞”的信号。

加力、对接、冲刺、拉杆……伴随着震耳欲聋的轰鸣，战机短距离冲天而起！成功了！

程海林的这次极限挑战，使得国防科技领域又一项空白被填补，海军试飞领域树起又一座里程碑。……

1991年程海林被招飞入伍。随后的17年间，从空军到海军，从学校到部队，从初教机到高教机，从二代机到最新型战机，程海林几乎飞过海军所有型号战机。他安全飞行2100多小时，成长为一名优秀的战斗机飞行员。

2008年底，海军在“海空雄鹰团”遴选首批舰载战斗机试飞员，程海林急不可耐地报了名。他过五关斩六将，如愿以偿成为“飞鲨”战机试飞团队的一员。正当程海林踌躇满志地准备驾机上舰时，上级经过对训练、人力等资源的统筹，却安排他去试飞舰载战斗机的教练机。该型教练机是海军舰载战斗机训练的主机型，程海林服从了组织安排。

在接下来的几年里，程海林辗转几地，试飞了多种机型。当他受命来到新成立的舰载航空兵部队时，首批舰载战斗机飞行员培训任务正在展开。组织上考虑安排他当教练，程海林提出了自己的想法：“教练必须具备驾机上舰的理论和实践。”他坚持地面苦练、空中精飞，既完成了放尾钩定点着陆、增阻轮挡直线斜线滑跃起飞等任务，还啃下了航母新一代阻拦索改进、地面加速冲索等试验鉴定“硬骨头”。2014年底，程海林驾驶歼-15舰载战斗机在辽宁舰上成功阻拦着舰和滑跃起飞，通过了航母飞行资质认证。

航母舰载战斗机出现之前，海军试飞任务一直依托空军。航母舰载战斗机试飞的坎坷历程深刻启示，航母舰载战斗机是海军特有，必须走独立自主的试飞路子。于是，2015年底，海军试飞大队应运而生。程海林被任命为首任大队长。……上任不久的程海林刚刚搭起大队的架子，还在四处招兵买马，就接到了新的任命：航母建设某核心技术试验试飞现场指挥部试飞指挥组组长兼首席试飞员。

全新设计的试验机、全新研制的装置、尚未定型的飞机发动机、未知的飞行轨迹……飞机性能究竟如何、装置是否过关、起飞后状态是否可控……面对一个个生死攸关的“未知”，程海林坚定地说：“海军试飞大队一定要为海军争气！”

他一头扎进飞机和装置的相关研制资料之中，虚心向研制专家求教，反复研究相关资料，短时间内整理出5万多字的笔记。

首飞当天上午，上级领导和有关研制单位、部队的同志齐聚试验场，共同见证一个伟大的时刻。

可天公不作美，在能见度上出了难题。但在程海林看来，试飞本身就是向风险的挑战。他以堪称完美的一试，有效验证了装置与试验机的良好适配性，宣告了我国航母建设领域取得了世界领先的重大突破。

这一试，不仅再次印证了程海林的高超技能，也试出了新生的试飞大队的战斗力，书写了海军试飞事业的新传奇。

程海林带头试高难科目，带头飞风险项目，牢牢把住质量关口和安全底数，积极与工业部门共同研讨完善试验流程细则，驾驶试验机完成了一系列开创性试验试飞任务，先后提出意见建议20余条，为后续装备的研制和试验试飞积累了宝贵经验。

Has the J-15X entered production yet?

 

[星海军事]

Has the J-15X entered production yet?

It is merely a demonstrator.

Sometimes I believed that some of our friends should learn to cut their expectations in half.

 

[Akasa]

It is merely a demonstrator.

Just to clarify, is the J-15B the same aircraft as the catapult-capable J-15X? There were rumors that a CATOBAR version is entering production (according to Henri K.).

 

[星海军事]

Just to clarify, is the J-15B the same aircraft as the catapult-capable J-15X? There were rumors that a CATOBAR version is entering production (according to Henri K.).

How would that be possible? Since demonstrators were built for technology demonstration.

 

[Akasa]

How would that be possible? Since demonstrators were built for technology demonstration.

Those are the words of some credible observers, not mine. So, these catapult capable J-15s are not even full or new-built prototypes, i.e. they were converted from existing airframes?

 

[Deino]

Those are the words of some credible observers, not mine. So, these catapult capable J-15s are not even full or new-built prototypes, i.e. they were converted from existing airframes?

No. They are purely build to demonstrate certain technologies. This does not need to be a converted older aircraft.

 

[Akasa]

No. They are purely build to demonstrate certain technologies. This does not need to be a converted older aircraft.

A very inefficient way to test new technologies IMO!