'Shadinota' Class corvette news and discussion.

[Bilal9]

PS - What happened to your prediction that very little of the 20+ billion dollar loans promised by China in 2016 would ever materialise?

Why do you torture him so?

His morning Idli/dosa has not been digested yet.

 

[Nilgiri]

Yeah 6 "cheap" frigates that will be world-class in capability.

This makes BD a blue water navy how? BD definitely is not even brown water in actual effective use.

I don't think I could name very many countries that had 1 million people officially shafted into them in such short space of time and took it like a butthurt champ does....and then bought rice from the shafter haha....instead of actually following thru to even 0.001% with the rona-drona by defence forum kids....forget shooting down planes.

PS - What happened to your prediction that very little of the 20+ billion dollar loans promised by China in 2016 would ever materialise?

What got actually operationalised? Next to nothing.....its all back-logged (even what is on "schedule") due to BD govt sucking as usual...what is flowing is spreading over many many years so % wise its tiny on what BD actually needs.

Again there is a reason why BD gets pissant amount of FDI and has to resort to loan-stronk optics in first place. Global private sector has about the confidence in BD as @Michael Corleone has in a clean Dhaka airport happening in next century. As far as China (govt) loan shark strategy...nuff said....even they are being pretty wary....spreading out and hedging with an LDC utterly corrupt useless govt as they ought to.

 

[Nike]

"Confirmed"? and 2030 in same sentence lol....because no military in the world (forget the utterly incompetent pilkhana-stronk one posing as one in BD) has ever revised things in 12 year time frames ever before in history

So yeah "will"

Not to mention your assertion that 6 cheap frigates suddenly makes a navy a "blue water navy"....that too stretched all the way over to 2030 blue water standards.

Not to mention BD does jack shiet with its "capability" right now anyway lol (remember that FM-90 STRONK posturing for MM aircraft violators?).

The real butthurt must be seeing your randi-PM (who you lot worship whenever given the chance) doing annual pilgrimage to her master to receive both instructions and memorabilia about actual military intervention that spawned BD in the first place (so you have luxury of even breathing air today, much less farting BD stronk gas here)....something BD has no fiqh or nature to do inherently for Arakan....because past the posturing you defence board kids do, BD has no basic level guts.

If 6 Soon would be exist or still in dream frigates made them feel about being blue water navy, let them be. While in reality, most of true blue water Navy had a wide array of lethal arsenal backed by strong Naval tradition and strong Naval and aviation industry. In this ASPAC region, only China, India, South Korea and Japan had the chance to become true blue water Navy.

 

[UKBengali]

If 6 Soon would be exist or still in dream frigates made them feel about being blue water navy, let them be. While in reality, most of true blue water Navy had a wide array of lethal arsenal backed by strong Naval tradition and strong Naval and aviation industry. In this ASPAC region, only China, India, South Korea and Japan had the chance to become true blue water Navy.

Another butt-hurt here.
BD is getting the full range of naval capabilities, bar nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers.

What "strong" indigenous aviation and naval Industry does India have?

 

[Michael Corleone]

This makes BD a blue water navy how? BD definitely is not even brown water in actual effective use.

Who’s claiming bd will be a blue water navy with its current goals!?

Now tbh, you’re torpedoing your maturity with the second line... cmon now.

@madokafc @Gibbs @Aung Zaya



@Michael Corleone:



cuz same guy couldn't wait for BD to shoot down the next airspace infringement by MM (and then cried when 100 more happened and zilch by BD in response)....and now BD will make the leap from largely brown water with small handful of green water.... to full "blue water navy" with just 6 "will-force" frigates.

@UKBengali bruh sometimes the thing you say fucks with my head you know :/

 

[Bilal9]

What "strong" indigenous aviation and naval Industry does India have?

Bhai they will derail the thread.

Indians and outsiders please keep the conversation on topic.


In the last thread all these OT comments were deleted, so don't waste your energy.

 

[Nike]

Another butt-hurt here.
BD is getting the full range of naval capabilities, bar nuclear submarines and aircraft carriers.

What "strong" indigenous aviation and naval Industry does India have?

Bd got full Naval capabilities? What is your maritime patrol aircraft? Handfull of short legged dornier? ASW capabilities? Zleich, what is the number of your Air warfare capable frigate or Corvette ? Nein. And then how about your Marines corps? Do you have it?

Huh, they got sound Naval and aviation industry. If you cant see on how they built Kolkata class and License producing Su 30MKI then you are blind

en blinde mensen zoals jij zijn geen cent waard

 

[Bilal9]

Since we we are talking about the corvettes, these are one generation ahead (stealth and sensors) of what other navies, such as India's fields in the same weight class. Khukri and Kora classes are re-warmed Petya class Soviet designs from the fifties.

Indonesia's fleet is as good or slightly ahead of us by dint of recent Damen designs they are building. So we should compare to theirs and Malaysia's equivalents. Does PN have a modern equivalent?

I don't know what the KRI equivalent is to the Shadhinota class.

 

[mb444]

Bd got full Naval capabilities? What is your maritime patrol aircraft? Handfull of short legged dornier? ASW capabilities? Zleich, what is the number of your Air warfare capable frigate or Corvette ? Nein. And then how about your Marines corps? Do you have it?

Huh, they got sound Naval and aviation industry. If you cant see on how they built Kolkata class and License producing Su 30MKI then you are blind

en blinde mensen zoals jij zijn geen cent waard

I don’t see your point. BN capacity is on an upward trend. BN being a blue water navy in the medium no it’s not going to happen. But fully fledged navy able to prevent a blockade in conflict is the aim and this will be achieved.

 

[UKBengali]

Bd got full Naval capabilities? What is your maritime patrol aircraft? Handfull of short legged dornier? ASW capabilities? Zleich, what is the number of your Air warfare capable frigate or Corvette ? Nein. And then how about your Marines corps? Do you have it?

Huh, they got sound Naval and aviation industry. If you cant see on how they built Kolkata class and License producing Su 30MKI then you are blind

en blinde mensen zoals jij zijn geen cent waard

You are talking nonsense as India is still world's largest arms importer.

BD defence modernisation will be complete by 2030 and the fleet has been confirmed to be led by 6 frigates that will built in BD. All those other things you talk about will of course be part of the BN arsenal. Just back in February this year, BD floated a tender for two landing craft with minimum requirements of 15 days at sea continuous and 8 50 tonne tanks.
While BN will primarily safeguard BD interests in Bay of Bengal it will be able to venture out to the wider IOR in force when required.
BD is set to become a 200 million strong "middle-income" country in a generation and it's lifeblood will be seaborne trade, and it will not allow it's economic well being to be at the mercy of anyone else.

 

[Bilal9]

Bd got full Naval capabilities? What is your maritime patrol aircraft? Handfull of short legged dornier? ASW capabilities? Zleich, what is the number of your Air warfare capable frigate or Corvette ? Nein. And then how about your Marines corps? Do you have it?

Huh, they got sound Naval and aviation industry. If you cant see on how they built Kolkata class and License producing Su 30MKI then you are blind

en blinde mensen zoals jij zijn geen cent waard

Still using Dutch huh?

The language of the colonial masters and which no one else speaks except the Dutch?

You can make useless off-the-cuff comments just to dissolve your hate/spite but you know very little about Bangladesh Navy...

Maybe you'd want us to seriously reconsider defence and infra cooperation with Indonesia?

Why don't we talk to the other Indonesian members here and see how they feel about your comments.

 

[UKBengali]

I don’t see your point. BN capacity is on an upward trend. BN being a blue water navy in the medium no it’s not going to happen. But fully fledged navy able to prevent a blockade in conflict is the aim and this will be achieved.

I think it all depends what you mean by "blue-water" Navy.

I was referring to the "Todd and Lindberg" classification system where BD can potentially reach up to level 3, which is "Multi-Regional Power Projection", which even a country like Spain has attained now. With BN's planned 6 4000+ tonne frigates and of course the associated submarines and other assets to go with them, BD can realistically get to this level by 2030.
As an example, BN would be capable of sending out a fleet consisting of say 2-3 frigates and 2 submarines to assist a friendly country in the ME if it was facing a Naval threat. This is purely theoretical but it illustrates what the BN will be capable of around 2030.

 

[Bilal9]

People have this impression that India has this China-level capability to build a blue-water Navy. This is mostly due to Sanghi propaganda day and night and couldn't be further from the truth. India excels in 'showboat' development. Show a dollar's worth of achievement while actual development may have been three cents. This is a outward expression of defense corruption which goes all the way to the top.

Their ships some fifty years later are still all warmed over Soviet-era designs. Better sensors are still mostly Israeli which they paid top dollar for. Their BEL sensors and local equipment are mostly crap that doesn't work worth a damn. I'm sorry, incompetence has its pitfalls.

Meanwhile about China, their development regarding sensors has been spectacular.

Look at the Kora and Khukri class corvettes which are floating naval museums carrying cold-war era missiles, no newer design corvettes yet after twenty years in the 1400 ton weight class. And these were 50's era Soviet design derivatives anyway. Forget about stealth features.

While China designed its own stealth frigates and corvettes including the 056 class a decade ago. Every three years they improve their designs.

Sanghi propaganda is one thing and IN incompetence is another.

 

[Nilgiri]

Who’s claiming bd will be a blue water navy with its current goals!?

Just check the thread lol.

Still using Dutch huh?

The language of the colonial masters and which no one else speaks except the Dutch?

Says the guy speaking English.

People have this impression that India has this China-level capability to build a blue-water Navy. This is mostly due to Sanghi propaganda day and night and couldn't be further from the truth. India excels in 'showboat' development. Show a dollar's worth of achievement while actual development may have been three cents. This is a outward expression of defense corruption which goes all the way to the top.

Their ships some fifty years later are still all warmed over Soviet-era designs. Better sensors are still mostly Israeli which they paid top dollar for. Their BEL sensors and local equipment are mostly crap that doesn't work worth a damn. I'm sorry, incompetence has its pitfalls.

Meanwhile about China, their development regarding sensors has been spectacular.

Look at the Kora and Khukri class corvettes which are floating naval museums carrying cold-war era missiles, no newer design corvettes yet after twenty years in the 1400 ton weight class. And these were 50's era Soviet design derivatives anyway. Forget about stealth features.

While China designed its own stealth frigates and corvettes including the 056 class a decade ago. Every three years they improve their designs.

Sanghi propaganda is one thing and IN incompetence is another.

@AUSTERLITZ when you have time for a bit of a laugh, have a read

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

@AUSTERLITZ when you have time for a bit of a laugh, have a read

Don't bother with that joker.Pakistan could only dream of building something like a kolkata class destroyer or ins arihant or ins vikrant.He calls type 056 corvette as something of an achievement,its a most mediocre ship.An ASW corvette with no real passive anti torpedo jamming or decoy systems and worst of all it doesn't even have a hangar,just a helipad.Helicopter is the most important part of ASW.Type 56 is a not comparable to something like a kamorta in ASW.