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Indian Muslims have nothing to do with Pakistan. They have absolutely no sympathy for Pakistan. They know that Pakistan was the biggest mistake committed in the history of Indian Muslims. They know it. You can ask anyone in Baroda, Bihar or Mumbai. They know how they are suffering the backlash of all the consequences of cross-border terrorism.

Today, they fear retribution from the government, they fear retribution from popular disenchantment and anger. They feel helpless. They feel afraid.

Muslims in India are angry against Pakistan that has been pointing towards Indian Muslim community for the attacks on India and Pakistan is spreading the rumors that the group is oppressed and they are showing their anger towards Indian government.

Many Indians Muslims are getting killed in theses attacks and the Muslim groups are insisting they don’t want peace talk with Pakistan until Lashkar-men are handed over to India. Indian Muslims want the government to take strict actions against all those who are involved in the attacks as no religion permits killing.
 
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How Secular Is India Today?



There is always a big gap between theory and practice, theology and history. Indian constitution, no doubt, is one of the best in the world. It is truly secular in spirit so much so it was secular even when word secular was not added to it until 1975 i.e. during emergency. If it were truly implemented India would be an ideal country to live in especially for minorities, both religious as well as linguistic.


However, as we all know there is big gap between theory and practice, constitution and governance of the country. India was far more peaceful after independence for number of reasons. Firstly, nationalist leaders who had participated in freedom struggle and were instrumental in framing the Constitution were still around and despite various pressures, stuck to ideals and values to a great extent.

Secondly, due to idealism and nearness to spirit of freedom nation as a category and national identity was of great importance and often caste, linguistic and religious divisions mattered less. Thirdly, the process of economic development had just begun and yet people’s demand for share in development on caste and communal lines was not very articulate and loud.

Because of all this identity politics was still subdued and Marathi versus non-Marathi, Tamil versus non-Tamil sentiments were not so prominent. Hindu versus Muslims feelings were not so subdued due to memory of partition but due to other factors communal violence was still limited and had not assumed proportions of ethnic cleansing or genocide like in Gujarat in 2002.

It all began with series of communal riots in sixties assuming great proportions in Ahmedabad in 1969 and Bhivandi in 1970. In Ahmedabad nearly 1000 people were killed in Ahmedabad in 1969 and around 400 people in Bhivandi. But then communal violence remained in check until 1977 when again some major riots took place in several places like Jamshedpur, Aligarh and Varanasi etc.

Again whole of decade of eighties was full of communal violence climaxing in Mumbai riots in 1992-93. The Ramjanam bhoomi movement once again polarized as on the eve of partition. Again there was lull in communal disturbances from 1992-93 to 2002 when Gujarat took place in 2002. Gujarat riots once again made communal situation quite fragile and weakened secular ethos in the country.



Now the identity politics soared quite high and national ethos considerably weakened. Today everyone prioritize once caste, communal and religious identity over national one. National rhetoric, as if, has almost disappeared and even Hindutva forces talk more of Hindu religion than of patriotism or nation. For them too Indian nationalism has been replaced by Hindu nationalism.

For Shiv Sena of course Maharashtra was always more important than the Rashtra (nation) and those Hindus too who spoke Hindi the Rashtrabhasha (national language) came under attack. Several Hindus from U.P. and Bihar were mauled by Marathi speaking zealots belonging to Maharashtra Navniram Sena (MNS), a splinter group from Shiv Sena.

Now recently Christians who were never targeted before by the Hindutva zealots have also come under attack. Christians, a mere 2.2 percent minority and which has contributed so richly to the country in the field of education and health services are being killed ruthlessly. What is going on in Kandhmal district of Orissa and some adjoining districts, is indeed hair raising.

More than 40 Christians have been killed, a nun mass raped, a woman burnt beyond recognition, more than 400 houses burnt and looted and 35 thousand have fled from their villages to relief camps. And what for? A myth has been spread by the powerful machinery of Sangh Parivar that all Christians convert. Remember RSS propaganda “All Muslims are not terrorists but all terrorists are Muslims”?

Orissa is another Gujarat both in brutalities and terrorization of minorities. When Christians and Muslims are being so brutally targeted the RSS Chief Sudarshan says that both Muslims and Christians convert and Muslims want every one to become Muslim and Christians want all to follow Christ and so Hindus must give fitting reply. And our rulers just look on.


When BJP was ruling over the country and whole country was communalized we were feeling suffocated and felt liberated when UPA took over and the BJP led Government defeated at the hustings. We celebrated UPA’s victory specially because it was supported by the left which is the only hope for Indian secularism. However, left has withdrawn its support on nuclear issue and once again we are feeling suffocated in the communally surcharged state of affairs in India.

However, what is most worrisome is that it is happening under UPA Government which is supposed to be a secular outfit. Perhaps today there is more suffocation than even under the BJP-led NDA Government. The UPA has forgotten all its promises made to the country and is betraying minorities and jettisoning its secular commitment. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh is more occupied with his pet nuclear pact with America than the communal explosion back home.

The communal forces are growing stronger and stronger everyday and the ruling coalition of secular forces is quite indifferent. The Home Ministry is functioning quite in a lackadaisical manner. It has given complete liberty to these forces and they are riding roughshod over our secular values and constitutional forces. They never got such license to function freely.

The NDA Government liberally recruited RSS inclined candidates in all key positions and they captured important academic positions too. Also, RSS trained teachers and journalists also were recruited on large scale. It is because of this that we find communally minded people in all walks of life. The media also has been communalised as never before.

Today be it communal riots or terrorist attacks most of the newspapers and T.V. channels publish police version unabashedly as if it is ultimate truth. No questions are raised and it appears as if investigative journalism has become story of the past. Media plays most important role in strengthening democratic values and democracy cannot survive without a critical and alert media. But it seems except for few papers and magazines media has been completely communalised.

Even a well-known Daily from south which was known for its strong commitment to secularism appears to have developed, of late, subtle communal slant. It is indeed very critical period for India. India is well known as largest secular democracy in the world. But first Gujarat and now Orissa has dented its secular image thanks to Hindutva forces. Manmohan Singh was faced with the most embarrassing situation abroad and he had to admit that what is happening in Orissa is ’shameful’.


But having described developments in Orissa shameful what has he done to redeem it? He is quite hesitant to ban Bajrang Dal and resisting demand of some of his own Congress party colleagues to ban it saying we are watching and waiting for reports from Chief Minister of Orissa. It is indeed more shameful than communal carnage in Orissa. Any truly secular government would have dismissed Navin Patnaik Government for its complete inability to control communal violence.

So far I never believed that Indian communalism could take form of fascism as many leftists had been saying all along. Today we see the footprints of fascism in India. The situation is very similar to that of Germany in the thirties. The unemployed hordes of lower middle classes have joined Bajrang Dal and Vishwa Hindu Parishad in large numbers and hailing Hindutva leaders. Some of the text books in Rajasthan and Gujarat, both BJP ruled states are praising fascism and Hitler.

Also, the Central Government is appeasing these communal forces. It appears though the Government at the Centre is of secular UPA but agenda is of Sangh Parivar. The police appears to be taking orders from Sangh Parivar rather than from ruling Congress or UPA. Riot after riot be it in Orissa or Digras, Pusad or Dhule the police just looks on when mobs loot and burn even during curfew hours.

It is indeed very very worrisome situation. The UPA Government is assisting the Sangh Parivar in every way possible. The police is riding absolutely roughshod over minorities and latest example is Batla House ‘encounter’. Though the print and electronic media abdicated its responsibility the human rights groups raised questions and pricked holes in the police claim of encounter of ‘dreaded terrorists.

The situation is indeed very grave and unless secular forces unite and play determined role things can get far more worse.

How Secular Is India Today? | Indian Muslims
 
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Several Indian Muslims have flourished in various professions, whether as film stars, cricketers, politicians or businessmen - actors Shahrukh Khan, Aamir Khan and Salman Khan; cricketers Irfan Pathan, Zaheer Khan and Azim Premji; the owner of Indian software giant Wipro; tennis icon Sania Mirza. Some of the soldiers who fought Pakistan's incursion into Kargil in 1999 were Muslim. The President of India, A PJ Abdul Kalam, is a Muslim. Although Indian Muslims remain one of the less-developed and poorer sections of Indian society, they have not been lured by the pan-Islam radicalism that afflicts many other nations.
 
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Indian Muslims have nothing to do with Pakistan. They have absolutely no sympathy for Pakistan. They know that Pakistan was the biggest mistake committed in the history of Indian Muslims. They know it. You can ask anyone in Baroda, Bihar or Mumbai. They know how they are suffering the backlash of all the consequences of cross-border terrorism.

Today, they fear retribution from the government, they fear retribution from popular disenchantment and anger. They feel helpless. They feel afraid.

Muslims in India are angry against Pakistan that has been pointing towards Indian Muslim community for the attacks on India and Pakistan is spreading the rumors that the group is oppressed and they are showing their anger towards Indian government.

Many Indians Muslims are getting killed in theses attacks and the Muslim groups are insisting they don’t want peace talk with Pakistan until Lashkar-men are handed over to India. Indian Muslims want the government to take strict actions against all those who are involved in the attacks as no religion permits killing.

:P still you are discriminating the Indian Muslims despite the fact that they are loyal to India. That is the point. You need to practice the true secularism viz viz treating your own biggest miniority.
 
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@ Jana .... you do realise from the stats you have quoted above that the Indian Muslim community with a literacy rate of 60% (while admittedly lower than the national average) is still positively "Harvardesque" compared to the literacy rate of the Pakistani (= Muslim) population standing just marginally above Nepal and Bangladesh at SUB 50% ? :) LOL

Does anyone have the per capita income figures for the Indian Muslim community versus the Pakistan figure? Should make for interesting reading, especially if proven that inspite of "Hindu oppression" the Indian muslim is richer and better educated than the Pakistani muslim.

Cheers, Doc
 
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Several Indian Muslims have flourished in various professions, whether as film stars, cricketers, politicians or businessmen - actors Shahrukh Khan, Aamir Khan and Salman Khan; cricketers Irfan Pathan, Zaheer Khan and Azim Premji; the owner of Indian software giant Wipro; tennis icon Sania Mirza. Some of the soldiers who fought Pakistan's incursion into Kargil in 1999 were Muslim. The President of India, A PJ Abdul Kalam, is a Muslim. Although Indian Muslims remain one of the less-developed and poorer sections of Indian society, they have not been lured by the pan-Islam radicalism that afflicts many other nations.


you are not very bright are you

sports, acting/showbusiness and politics represent less tan 0.1% of the population, its near pointless to mention.

whats important is the average joe muslim and what his prospects are, what profession he has etc etc

how many are doctors?
how many are lawyers?
how many are engineers?

how many are middle class?

now come back to me with some good solid numbers and i will accept your point, extreme outliers such as bollywood stars mean zilch.
 
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India’s Muslims have not moved ahead not because of any discrimination by the Indian Constitution or structural impediments of the Indian state.
Had it been so then India’s Muslims would not have provided: (1) Presidents of the Indian Republic, namely President Zakir Hussain and President Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed (2) Vice President Hidayatullah (3) Chief Justice of India’s Supreme Court Mr. Justice Hidayatullah and Mr. Justice Ahmadi. (4) Chief of Air Staff of the Indian Air Force, Air Chief Marshal Zaheer (4) Number of Indian Army Generals and the most notable Bharat Ratna APJ Abdul Kalam who pioneered, developed and structured India’s missile arsenal.

These distinguished members of India’s Muslims besides a large galaxy of many others in various fields, rose to prominence and eminence not because of any system of political reservations or political favors but they rose to distinguished heights because of their personal merit, breaking the traditional binds that shackle India’s Muslims and also because the Indian state provides equal opportunities to all its citizens.

It can be fairly said that a vast majority of Indian Muslims do wish to move forward and share India’s emerging economic prosperity but are being held back by traditional forces and the leadership which lacks vision.
India’s Muslims, therefore, can be said to be at the cross-roads as the crucial choice facing them today is to either reject modernity espoused by their political and religious (distinct from spiritual) leadership or move forward to progress shoulder to shoulder with the ‘other 900 million Indians’.

To Be or Not to be India’s Part: The Crucial Decision?

India’s Muslims face the strongest challenge in deciding whether to be or not to be Indians in its most essential integrate form. The question is whether they would prefer and be happy to be known as India’s Muslims or would they like to be termed as Indian Muslims or go more backward as one Muslim leader insists on labeling them Muslim Indians, probably because it suits his politics.

In India there are no Indian Hindus, Indian Sikhs or Indian Buddhists. They are known as Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists. Even the term ‘Indian Christian’ was devised, for want of a better word, to differentiate them from Anglo-Indians. At a future date, someone could divide India’s Muslims by referring Muslims who came as conquerors to India and settled down as 'Muslim Indians' and vast majority of those who were forcibly converted to Islam by the conquerors as ‘Indian Muslims’

‘India's Muslims' is not a pejorative term nor a patronizing one. It is reflective of pride in being "India’s" Muslims, a part, parcel and equal participant of the Indian Republic. The Indian Republic too would like to have pride in asserting that they are "India’s Muslims."

India’s Muslims: Need for ‘Glasnost’ and ‘Perestroika’:

That India’s Muslims are at cross-roads is not debatable. It is just because the existing traditional and religious bindings suppress dissent. The younger generation of India’s Muslims are yearning for change and demands for the same, however muted at present, are stirring. It is the younger generation of India’s Muslims who should spearhead the renaissance in their midst by demanding ‘glasnost’ and ‘perestroika’, i.e., ‘Openness’ of minds and transformation of attitudinal changes and ‘restructuring’ of the existing configuration of their elites' political and religious leadership and more important, ‘restructuring’ of India’s Muslims approaches to modernity.

All of the above can be done without loss of the spiritual richness of the faith. Turkey’s Muslims’ approach and embracing of modernity under the generation of Kamal Attaturk is a shining example for all Muslims. India’s Muslims can see a similar vision.

Political Leadership of India’s Muslims is retrogressive: The political leadership of India’s Muslims presents a curious mix of traditional conservatives and religious leaders. It also has a sprinkling of some professionals and ex-bureaucrats who despite a conditioning in ‘liberalism’ have adopted the thinking and vocabulary of the religious extreme.

India’s Muslims have scores of highly educated, modernity oriented professionals who should have emerged as the natural leaders of India’s Muslims. That they cannot emerge as such presently is indicative of the vice-like grip of the present retrogressive leadership. Every time a challenge seems likely to emerge to the established leadership, the name of religion is invoked to neutralize them.

A profile of the political leadership of India’s Muslims provide very poor reading. Their utterances, approaches and statements have medieval overtones, sounding more akin to the ‘fundamentalist fringe’ of Pakistani politics, whom the Pakistani President has since publicly denounced.

India’s Muslims themselves have to find the answers to find visionary and bold leaders who have more integrative approaches to the nation and who can impel them towards modernity. The Mosque needs to be divorced from politics. It should remain only as a shining symbol of the religion and its spiritual solace, not a political pulpit.

Ideally, the political leadership of India’s Muslims should not be an exclusive one. It should be participatory and reflected in the entire spectrum of Indian politics. Till that stage is reached, as an interim step, India’s Muslims must find visionaries to lead them.

India’s Muslims must shed the crutches of ‘ Secularist’ and ‘Pseudo-Secularist Political Parties: India’s ‘secularism’ was an artificial construct coined by Nehru to capture the vote bank of the Muslims. Thereafter, its political usage in Indian electoral politics has been most shameful and politically disadvantageous for India’s Muslims.

Nehru, if he was the great 'Secularist’ as proclaimed to be, would then have not exploited the ‘concept of secularism’ for political gains vis-a-vis India’s Muslims. He reduced ‘India’s Muslims’, as a narrow community good enough only to provide a vote bank for the Congress. So are the claims of the latter day secularists, more ‘pseudo-secularists’ (minus the intellectual content) who proclaim and politically patronize India’s Muslims for political advantage. What have they done to retrieve India’s Muslims from their backwardness and lead them to modernity?

India’s Muslims should consciously cease to be a ‘vote bank’ good enough for electoral arithmetic. It should spread out itself evenly to the entire Indian political spectrum, including those opposed by secularists. There is no such thing as a ‘Secularist Indian’, a ‘Secularist Hindu’ or a ‘Secularist Muslim’. All these are artificial constructs used for political expediency. Religions do not teach such classifications.

Commitment to the cause of betterment of India’s Muslims should be the only political determination, irrespective of political labels.

Conclusion: Muslim Integration Not Muslim Exclusivity is the Answer:

India was partitioned in 1947 on the principle of exclusivity, with the creation of Pakistan as the so-called ‘Homeland for Indian Muslims’. Out of the then 40 million Muslims, only 8 million or so opted for Pakistan. The creation of Pakistan stood thus negated at its very creation.

India’s Muslims should open their eyes to this harsh reality. Their present political leadership would be content to keep them confined in Muslim ghettos for their own political game. India’s so called secularist politicians and their appendages, the present secularists have also not done anything to free them from these ghettos. There is a curious convergence of interests of the existing Muslim political leadership and India’ s so called secularists’ parties to keep India’s Muslims in their present strait jacket i.e. lack of modernity and medieval suppression of education and women’s rights.

India’s Muslims need to reject all their existing political forms, attitudes and approaches. Muslim women and the younger generations need to break out of the bindings imposed on them by their existing leadership and aided by India’s secularist parties. They should demand modernity of thought, action and deed. They should break out of their ghettos.

India’s Muslims should demand of their leadership integration with the "other 900 million Indians" and not the notion of ‘Muslim exclusivity’ which condemns them to the shackles of medievalism.

From the above observations we can deduce that:

India’s Muslims face the strongest challenge in deciding whether to be or not to be Indians in its most integrate form;

India’s Muslims need ‘glasnost’ and ‘perestroika’ with special emphasis on restructuring their approaches to opening upto modernity ;

India’s Muslims need to discard their retrogressive leadership which restrains them from moving to modernity;

India’s Muslims must shed the crutches of India’s secularists who consider them only as a vote bank and with no commitment to upliftment ; and

lastly, that India’s Muslims should demand of their leadership integration with the "other 900 million Indians" and not the notion of "Muslim exclusivity " which condemns them to the shackles of medievalism.

Continuing the above process of examination of India’s Muslims challenges and problem, this paper attempts to highlight some hard realities that need to be faced, by this otherwise, very talented

segment of the Indian nation. The Indian nation state would be richer, when India’s Muslims shedding the shackles of their retrogressive leadership and the political and electoral machinations of India’s secularists, join India’s national mainstream. This only would facilitate the full harnessing of their rich potential, both for India’s good and for the welfare and prosperity of India’s Muslims.

The Crisis of identity

India’s Muslims face a very complex crisis of identity. Nobody in India grudges them their pride and identity as being Muslims, first and foremost. Their crisis of identity is neither a product of India’s history, other than the modern era.

India’s Muslims crisis of identity has to be viewed on three separate planes as it operates as such . These are :

Politically, the crisis commenced when after 1857, when British liberalism enabled the Hindu population of India to surge ahead in all spheres as their approaches to modernity were not shackled even by Brahmanical dictates, India’s Muslims, comparatively , were in a "shell-shock" of having to now compete for advancement, no longer protected by the erstwhile Islamic state privileges ;

Economically, the same period thereafter witnessed the economic decline of India’s Muslims from a financially privileged group to be reduced to an economically backward group except for Punjab and Sind. India’s industrialization under the British did not witness growth of big ‘Muslim’ industrial houses like the Tatas and Birlas etc. The reason was not that the British were discriminatory. It was that India’s Muslims had regressed into a cocoon rejecting all forms of modernity ; and

The religions plane which is the most complex of all and has taken many hues since then.

Viewing the religious plane, three phases can be discerned in terms of crisis of identity of India’s Muslims :

The first phase lasted from the 1880s or thereafter till 1947. This phase marked the political exploitation of "Muslim exclusivity" in India, leading upto the demand and creation of Pakistan;

The second phase seems to have lasted from 1947 to 1971. Partition of India created a Pakistan which was totally a lien geographically and culturally from its main protagonist, the UP, Bihari and Bengali Muslims. Thus only 8 million of India’s Muslims opted to move to Pakistan. The remainder of 32 million India’s Muslims felt reasonably secure to stay back in India, conscious fully that the bulk of the remainder of India’s population would be Hindus. The partition of Pakistan in 1971and emergence of Bangladesh further accentuated the crisis of identity of India’s Muslims. It dawned then that even a ‘fully’ Islamic state in the Indian sub-continent was not safe; and

The third phase commenced in 1972 and continues till today.

India’s Muslims cannot be Arab Muslims or acquire Arab identities, nor can they live on any other borrowed identities. India’s Muslims are India’s Muslim and their identity is Indian. The Muslim ummah is the religious identity and not a political identity. It does not clash with being India’s Muslim.

India’s Muslims logically should have by now resolved their crisis of identity in view of the 1947 and 1971 developments. But tragically, for them their crisis of identity was sought to be perpetuated by their own retrogressive political and religious leadership aided and abetted by India’s so called ‘secularist’ parties. India’s Muslims ‘exclusivity’ was sought to be used as a political weapon for narrow gains.

On this crisis of identity some realistic answers are needed to the following questions:

Does being a good Muslim impede their being good Indians?

Would rejection of modernity especially in education (madrassa system) would lead to their economic advancement ;

Why is the Muslim religious and political leadership opposed to modernization and re-structuring of India’s Muslim’s social setup ;

What demonstrable achievements can India’s secularist parties boast of in terms of upliftment of India’s Muslims.

It is ironical, that the Congress party, the Leftist and regional parties like the Samajwadi party (SP) and Laloo Yadav’s Rashtriya Janta Dal (RJD) trumpet the most their secular credentials. All of them have had their share of ruling, but with no tangible gains for India’s Muslims. It is also tragic that the states ruled by India’s regional parties like the SP and RJD who crow the most secularism and protection of Muslims, are the very states most backward and the economic plight of Muslims in these states is even worse.

India No Longer Available for Further Partitions

India’s detractors, including some within the leadership and those within India’s Muslims especially in the Jinnah mould, need to take a very serious look at this very hard reality. The Indian nation state will not hesitate to use all its national power to defend the national integrity and prevent secession. In the post-Cold War period, there were many in the West who made dire predictions of India’s disintegration on the soviet pattern i.e. emergence of new Islamic republics.

The Yugoslavia conflict also raised hopes of self-determination and ethnic separation. This also raised hopes especially in the Muslims of Kashmir. They need to note that India is strong enough to deter any external sponsorship of the Yugoslav pattern. While on this subject it must be stated to the credit of India’s Muslims that they have not generally supported the Kashmir valley Muslims call for separatism. The Kashmiri valley Muslims have not yet faced the realities of 1947 and 1971.

Co-existence – Not Politics of Confrontation

India’s so-called secularist parties and the religious and political leadership of India’s Muslims have forced them into political confrontation with the "other 900 million Indians". The distinction needs to be made that the vast majority of India’s Muslims do not subscribe to this game. However, it is their passivity in not opposing such games of their ‘fringe leadership’ which detracts from their image. India’s Muslims need to raise their voice and be heard that they are for co-existence in the most expansive connotation and not in mood for confrontation.

Confrontation tendencies arise only when ‘exclusivity’ and ‘separateness’ are propounded as political concepts and exploited as such. Surely, the vast majority of India’s Muslim oppose this.

Conclusion

Nations and groups within nations have historically been confronted with crises of identity, especially in pluralistic societies. External powers are always ready to exploit such crisis for their own narrow gains or national strategic interests. Fringe elements within groups try to take over and mislead either singly or in concert with other political groupings within the state who in their bid to capture power can resort to the lowest means.

India’s Muslims have to move forward from this cross-roads of identity crisis to a prosperous future as fully participative citizens of the Indian nation state. India’s Muslims must throw up its ‘Young Turks’ who add vision and commitment to progress. The lessons of 1947 and 1971 are stark and clear. India is their home and it is within India that their future and prosperity lies.
Indian Muslims at Crossroads by Dr. Subhash Kapila
 
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Glomex
Indian Muslims have nothing to do with Pakistan. They have absolutely no sympathy for Pakistan. They know that Pakistan was the biggest mistake committed in the history of Indian Muslims. They know it. You can ask anyone in Baroda, Bihar or Mumbai. They know how they are suffering the backlash of all the consequences of cross-border terrorism.

Today, they fear retribution from the government, they fear retribution from popular disenchantment and anger. They feel helpless. They feel afraid.

Glomex, read below and see if you agree or if you wish to pain another fantasy:




Date:18/08/2009 URL: The Hindu : Opinion / Leader Page Articles : Seeking a fair deal for Muslims


Seeking a fair deal for Muslims



Amar Singh



Search for identities and solutions in the Sachar Committee report.






The Rajindar Sachar Committee’s report on the social, economic and educational status of the Muslim community in India struck a blow to the Congress’ democratic and secularist assertions made over the decades. It lays out the actual conditions the Muslim minority faces and how it lags behind in terms of human development indicators. It reports that only a small percentage of them are in government service and involved in areas of socio-political life. The comm unity has been reduced to a sort of political working capital in the hands of the big political parties. According to the report, Muslims need assistance at all levels. They face deprivation in terms of habitation facilities, access to bank credit and also political decision-making power.

Since Independence, India has seen many commissions and committees constituted to resolve the problems of the minorities, especially Muslims. The Ram Sahay Commission on Muslim weavers, the Srikrishna Commission and the Gopal Singh Commission were formed during Congress governments, but their reports are gathering dust. Such moves constitute nothing but political stunts with empty promises for the vulnerable minority. It is obvious that the Sachar Committee report will meet the same fate.

But this is the first commission to have studied the roots of the problems the Muslim community is facing and what the government has done for it in the last 50 years. Ghettoisation and insecurity have grown among Muslims after the demolition of the Babri Masjid in 1992. As a result, the percentage of Muslim children attending school and university has significantly gone down.

The follow-up on the report has taken on political hues, with the Congress using it as a tool to woo the minorities and the BJP raising concerns over the figures mentioned in it. But what has the Congress done for the minorities during all these years? It claims to be a champion of secularism but has used the term only as a euphemism to appease Muslims and secure their votes.

The Sachar report should be an eye-opener for big political parties like the Congress and the BJP, which are using the Muslim issue as a device of vote-bank politics.

After Independence and during Congress rule, there was talk of a classified circular which directed that no Muslim be appointed to senior-level positions in the defence forces. The Congress had created such a stir for a long period of time so that Muslims would be forced to leave India. Further, an imprudent game was played by the communal forces during Jawaharlal Nehru’s rule with the clandestine support of the administration and the police. This continued for almost 30 years, creating fear and anxiety among the minorities. The communal clashes that took thousands of human lives and destroyed property worth crores of rupees were the consequences of this game. The Congress appointed commission after commission to investigate the communal riots, but none of the big perpetrators has been convicted.

Instead of punishing the culprits, the police and the administration invariably prosecuted the innocent Muslim victims. The fear and anxiety this caused, and the cavalier approach of the government, resulted in low levels of progress among Muslims in education and commerce. During a span of 50 years, the entire community has been pushed into a vacuum of illiteracy and unemployment.

The fervour of backward class politics of the Congress waned in the wake of the Mandal and Mandir issues. Now it is seeking to widen its base while leading a coalition government. It has moved for other backward classes quota in higher educational institutions and talked of reservation for Muslims.

The Congress’ efforts for the progress of the minorities have been proved hollow, particularly in the Hindi heartland. On the contrary, the smaller parties, including the Samajwadi Party, the Telugu Desam Party and the Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam, and the Left parties, have brought several benefits to Muslims. The SP has time and again asked for affirmative action on the basis of the Sachar Committee report. They should be encouraged to participate in the process of economic growth. The report is a revolutionary step to uplift the minorities in India, and if the Government of India implements its recommendations, that will boost India’s secular democracy.

It is to be seen how sincerely and resolutely the United Progressive Alliance government will pursue the agenda it has laid out. Should the findings be put in deep freeze, leaving the secular and vibrant democratic future of India in a disastrous state? According to the Director of the Centre for Policy Research, Professor Pratap Bhanu Mehta, the report not only reflects the poor human index of Indian Muslims but indicates the vacuum of Indian governance. It points to the poor development of infrastructure facilities such as electricity and telecommunications services in areas of Muslim habitation. Muslims are not represented enough in the civil services, in banks, in other public sector undertakings, in the judiciary and in the agencies involved with national security tasks. The Central government needs to coordinate with State governments to pool resources and formulate such policies as would help translate their developmental regression into progress.

The Sachar Committee has suggested that a commission examine the livelihood problems faced by Muslims. But apart from instituting a committee of experts, the Congress has made no substantive effort in this direction. Proper representation of the minorities, especially Muslims, in the police and defence forces will prove to be a morale-booster for them in terms of their safety and security issues, but this has not been looked into. As per the committee’s recommendation, the Congress government has promised to open schools, training institutes and banks, provide free education up to the age of 14 and create infrastructure in areas populated by Muslims. But that promise now lies in cyberspace.

The report mentions that representation for the Muslim community to the same order as the percentage of Muslims in the population of the country is found only in one place: in jails. The fact that this is true can be seen now in Congress-ruled States such as Maharashtra and Andhra Pradesh. Many innocent Muslim youth of Mumbai and Hyderabad are in jail only on the basis of suspicion. There is hardly any effort being made by the respective governments to provide them legal aid.

In the context of the report, the Congress is trying to play the role of a messiah for Muslims. These represent nothing but tokenism. The Action Taken Report on the Sachar Committee report is but a post-dated cheque. As ever, the Congress wants to use Muslims as a vote bank. It is not really bothered of their rights or their welfare.

There are many areas where work needs to be done for the growth and development of the Muslim community, such as the provision of basic infrastructure facilities in education, health, road and drinking water, employment generation, safety, promotion of the Urdu language, modernisation of madrassa education and the separation of politics from community development.

In the present situation, the SP strives to continue the efforts it has undertaken to work for the minorities and the downtrodden. The party stands for the empowerment of the poor, the minorities, and the marginalised sections that were the worst victims of exploitation due to the lopsided policies pursued by successive governments at the Centre. Muslims want to live a respectable life without any political prejudice. They know how to carry themselves in the present conditions and how to uplift themselves and grow. The government has to support them in different spheres of activity.

The SP wants the implementation of the Sachar Committee report in toto. A high-power expert committee representing all political parties should be constituted to look into the implementation of the recommendations
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(Amar Singh is general secretary of the Samajwadi Party. He wrote this article from a hospital in Singapore while undergoing treatment.)


Glomex, Why would Indian Muslims need a "fair deal", don't they have one now?
 
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you are not very bright are you

sports, acting/showbusiness and politics represent less tan 0.1% of the population, its near pointless to mention.

whats important is the average joe muslim and what his prospects are, what profession he has etc etc

how many are doctors?
how many are lawyers?
how many are engineers?

how many are middle class?

now come back to me with some good solid numbers and i will accept your point, extreme outliers such as bollywood stars mean zilch.

Am I your dads servant...if you need this information Pick up Indian Census report from the web..and find out this information.....:argh:
 
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Several Indian Muslims have flourished in various professions, whether as film stars, cricketers, politicians or businessmen - actors Shahrukh Khan, Aamir Khan and Salman Khan; cricketers Irfan Pathan, Zaheer Khan and Azim Premji; the owner of Indian software giant Wipro; tennis icon Sania Mirza. Some of the soldiers who fought Pakistan's incursion into Kargil in 1999 were Muslim. The President of India, A PJ Abdul Kalam, is a Muslim. Although Indian Muslims remain one of the less-developed and poorer sections of Indian society, they have not been lured by the pan-Islam radicalism that afflicts many other nations.


:) that is the only argument Indians have when it comes to defending.

You can not justify the sorry plight of Muslims in secular India by just bringing in few names of Muslims who are BTW are adding to your economy and fame.

We are talking about the gap between practicing secularism in true spirit and mere rehtoric. And the entire Muslim community in India not just few previlaged names who have practicaly nothing to do with Muslims' progress.
 
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Am I your dads servant...if you need this information Pick up Indian Census report from the web..and find out this information.....:argh:

no, you are the one who is trying to prove the point thus the perogative is on you to actually prove it.

so clearly you are not so quick to be shrill about indian muslims now are you?
 
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Some peeping into the reccent past.

Christians : A Faith under Assault in Secular India
Tuesday 18 September 2007, by Vidya Bhushan Rawat

[(BOOK REVIEW )]

A Matter of Equity: Freedom of Faith in Secular India by John Dayal; Anamika Publishers & Distributors, New Delhi; 2007; pages: 487; Price: Rs 800 (Hard Cover)


Christians from all over India recently gathered in the Capital to protest against the Hindutva assault on their faiths in different parts of the country. On May 29, 2007, when they all assembled at Jantar Mantar seeking the government’s intervention to protect their institutions and people, it was a reminder to all of us that in a plural society, every one needs to appreciate the contribution of linguistic and religious minorities in its development. The gathering of Christians was, therefore, not seen in isolation and had support from all those who believe that the best bet for India’s survival is cohesiveness of different ethnic, religious, secular groups. In the past few months, the goons of the Hindutva forces have targeted the community and their faith leaders in various North Indian States, particularly Rajasthan, Himachal Pradesh, Orissa, Chhattisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, Punjab and Gujarat. States like Uttarakhand and Himachal Pradesh, where the Christian population is abysmally low, are introducing special laws to prohibit conversion. Orissa, Madhya Pradesh, Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand have already enacted laws prohibiting conversion.


It is these States where extra-constitutional groups of the Hindutva brigade have taken it on themselves to do not only moral policing over people’s behaviour but also convert the tribals and Dalits back to the brahmanical fold. With Hindutva devotees at the seats of power, the goons are having a free day to kill anyone at their will. The assaults on Christian institutions have wider implications. The freedom of the gangs of Hindutva has become agony for all peace loving people including the minorities. We must also understand that minorities suffer from certain dilemmas and such assaults isolate them further and strengthen the theocratic leadership in the community.

Moreover, the assault on Muslims and Christians is deliberate to suppress the internal contradictions within the Varna system. With UP gone out of their hand, the Sangh Parivar would re-launch its assault on the Muslims and Christians so that the assertion of Dalits, adivasis and backward classes is diverted against the ‘enemies’ and Brahmins and brahmindom have an unchallenged supremacy in the broader Hindu Samaj.



In many of these States the Bharatiya Janata Party, the political wing of Hindutva’s discriminating and destructive ideology, is in power. Much before they slaughtered Muslims in Gujarat in 2002, it was the Christians, their churches and their educational institutions, which were targeted by the lumpen Hindutva organisations. The unaccountability of the Hindutva forces and their various offshoots emerges from the open encouragement and support from the ruling parties in these States. It is not only outrageous but also unconstitutional that the State governments run by the Bharatiya Janata Party behave conspicuously and indulge in double-speak justifying these assaults in the name of intrusion of foreign culture and threat to India’s unity.

Look, what happened in Gujarat recently where the Kolis were on the street seeking justice. Narendra Modi never loses sight of targeting the Muslims and Christians who, he fears, are proselytising the tribals by throwing money at them. Absolutely farcical Mr Modi, Gujarati Banias and Brahmins have enough money to buy up as much as the evangelical groups, so please ask them to go into the villages, sit with the Dalits and tribals, share their agonies and pains. But we know it well that that is impossible in brahmanical Gujarat; citizens of the State use multiculturalism in the West to reap its benefits but the same people become Hindu chauvinists when the issue of multiculturalism crops up in their own State. In another way, Gujarat’s psyche has become totally brahmanised and a mere change of Narendra Modi would not work. An assertion of Dalits, Adivasis and backward communities (Gujarat’s backwards are Hinduised), for their political rights, in coalition with Muslims and Christians, would pave the way for throwing up a challenge against the current Hindutva culture prevailing in the State.

One of the issues that John Dayal has raised in his book is that of the right to profess the faith of your choice. The Hindutva groups obviously are not comfortable with this as they regard it as a threat. But conversion is a political tool and apolitical conversion has cost Dalits a lot. The first conversion that jolted the brahmanical structure was not in 1951 when Babasaheb Ambedkar embraced Buddhism, but the 1982 conversion of hundreds of Dalits to Islam in Meenakhsipuram in Tamil Nadu. For Hindutva everybody who is dissatisfied with her/his faith has been paid handsome amount of money to convert. Unfortunately, that is where the problem lies, as most of the converts are still much below the poverty line.



If conversion had fetched good money and good life in monetary terms, I am sure the Brahmins, Banias and other upper-caste Hindus would have been the first to grab the opportunity.

We also tend to ignore the fact that the government has itself divided various Dalit communities. It has knowingly done the biggest conversion in the history of India by including Dalits, tribals, Buddhists, Sikhs, Jains and all those who are not Muslims or Christians, into the Hindu category. T

That has been the biggest blunder and conversion in the history of India and must be vigorously opposed as all these communities have their distinct cultural identities. Opposition to Dalit converts come from the fact that Dalits are considered as Hindus. So the government, the Hindu reformists want them to first face untouchability and social oppression again to get the benefit of reservation!


Despite my deep antipathy for Justice Ranga- nath Mishra for the politically motivated report that he presented on the 1984 anti-Sikh riot victims, the latest efforts by the Mishra Commission need our support, because these defend the right of an individual to profess any faith at the personal level without losing her/his fundamental right. Asha Das’ objections must be rejected before they take a dangerous turn. Nevertheless, it is also essential for the Church and Christian leaders to introspect about their Dalit agenda. It is easier for them to ask from the government for the rights of the Dalit Christians but at the same point of time, let them come out categorically to explain about the efforts they have made to empower Dalits within their community. A community which has in its possession India’s best known colleges, medical colleges, engineering colleges, media institutions, academic institutions etc., must disclose: what percentage of reservation has been given to Dalits and tribals in these institutions? If Christians were really willing to mobilise the Dalits on their side, empty slogans would not work. They have to be seen to be working for the Dalits. They cannot expect Dalits to follow their upper-caste leadership.

Christians are not hated in the power structure even when the Hindutva thugs target their priests. One of the reasons for that is that the growing feeling that Christians own large educational institutions which actually strengthen the Hindutva forces. The bitterest critiques of Christendom come from those who were educated at these prestigious institutions. They will not targets prestigious institutions in Delhi, Mumbai or elsewhere because most of their family members come out of these colleges. We must understand the philosophy behind this as my friend, Ram Puniyani, often suggests. The RSS and its Parivar have most of their ideologues coming from these institutions but when the Church and its educational institutions go in the villages and teach English and modern education to Adivasis and Dalits, that raises eyebrows. Education would open the mind of these people and will instigate them to challenge the racist philosophy of Hindutva. Tomorrow they will challenge the concept of merit of the upper castes. Unfortunately, this is not the case. Barring a few exceptions, things have not worked. Education is for profiteering and not much has been done at the village level. There have been compromises from the Christian leadership on this issue and their stand on the emancipation of Dalits and reservation.



AMIDST all this, one person who has unequivocally and uncompromisingly spoken against Hindutva and its fundamentalist ideology is Dr John Dayal. For the past few years, he has been very active putting the political agenda of the community and taking a strong line of action against the communal outfits though it is also a known fact that for his strong secular approach and convictions he is not the best person for the religious leadership
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A Matter of Equity: Freedom of Faith in Secular India is an outstanding work of John Dayal. Though a large number of articles have been compiled and updated for they were published in Indian Currents, yet by bringing them all together with other important documents, this book serves a great purpose for all those who are interested to know about the Christian community and its work in India as well as the vitriolic campaign of the Sangh Parivar against the Christian educational institutions. John Dayal has not only been a critique of the Sangh Parivar and its goons but he has asked the Church also to look into its role. He has documented incidents major violence against Christians in the last 10 years. May he get the strength to document and assist other secular groups also, those who may not like the evangelical groups very much like their dislike for the Muslim and Hindu radical groups. Yes, John Dayal is the Christian community’s secular face who has stood against all kinds of oppression, for the freedom of expression during the Emergency, which he so wonderfully documented in his book with Ajoy Bose, as well as his campaign against the fascist government of Narendra Modi in Gujarat.

Therefore, it is not surprising that many of the Church friends were not happy with this uncompromising man who has no interest of ‘protecting’ his prime location institutions. It is these uncompromising men who actually help the community more than those who pretend to help them in the name of ‘protecting’ their community identity. And these points reflect sharply in his analysis when he says that the National Minorities Commission does not really care about the rights of the Christians.

Some of the chapters in the book are great essays and show John Dayal’s grasp over the problem and his efforts to link the Christian community with the varied secular groups.

“A Christian Perspective to National Integration” is one such excellent essay in the book where Dayal advocates the creation of awareness for human rights and developing a civil society which, according to him, ‘calls for sacrifice’.

The article “Ignorance, Bigotry and Bloodshed: Perspective of Confrontation, Coexistence and Peace in India and South Asia” is simply superb and needs to be read by all those who wish to know the birth of various ethnic-religious identities in India and South Asia. It also helps understand the culture of appreciation towards those who are not ‘like’ us and differ with one another not only in outlook and perception but also language and religion.

Another important message is the ‘liberation theology’ of the Church which liberated the Shanar women in Travancore and Tirunalveli district of erstwhile Travancore state, where the Dalit women were prohibited from covering their breasts. The missionaries helped them to lead a life of dignity and self-respect. An unknown story is that of Sophie James Joseph, who was a nurse in Delhi’s St. Stephen’s Hospital and who saved life of a Sikh family when they were sought to be butchered by the upper-caste thugs of the Congress party in the aftermath of the assassination of Indira Gandhi.

The Christian community needs to heed his advice to introspect its own work among the Dalits. He writes: “How have we responded to the demands of Dalits? Not low cost schools for low caste people but high quality English schools which will allow the Dalit children to find their place under the sun in the modern age. The answer has to be given soon.” This was written by Dayal in September 2001 but seven years onwards he needs to ask the Church and the Catholic groups again whether their call for right to convert and rights of the Christian Dalits is confined to the number games only. What substantial work have the Church institutions done during the past seven years to uplift the Dalits? The Christian institutions have enormous power and strength to help the Dalits. Two months back, Ambrose Pinto, the Principal of St Joseph’s College, Bangalore, revealed to me how his college has reserved seats for Dalits, OBCs and minorities and that still remains one of the best colleges of Banglore. And there is no dent to its meritocracy. Perhaps a right answer for the Principal of St Stephen’s College, which constructed the brahmanical think-tank of India and officially went against the policy of reservation of the Dalits and OBCs in the Supreme Court, under the pretext of being a minority institution. The Church institutions must respond as to how many seats are being reserved for the Dalits and tribals in the elite institutions run by them and how much help is being offered for that.

Another superb piece from John Dayal comes in the form of “Hindutva’s Dollar Trail”, which exposes the funding mechanism of the hate campaigners of the Sangh Parivar. That India Development and Relief Fund (IDRF) has been supplying the funds to Vikas Bharati and nine other offshoots of the Sangh Parivar is a shocking revelation. Between 1994-2000 it contributed 3.2 million to these hate mongers in India. The Government of India must look into it and find more details of such organisations which spread communal hatred in communities in India. Such funds must be treated at par with the terrorist funding against which the US Administration and UK are waging a decisive battle. The unfortunate part is that the Christian world is deeply divided today and still considers Islam as its enemy number one and hence other hate mongers get the benefit of these things. Even in Britain, the Right- wing Hindu groups have got great protection from those in power. Interestingly, for the Sangh zealots, there is another interesting revelation in the book. The 106 per cent growth of Indian population, predominantly upper caste Hindus, between 1990-2000. The Sangh Parivar is too much disturbed by Christian growth rate while one is unable to understand that if conversion was taking place that rapidly why the population of the community did not reduce during the past five years.

While the government is trying to get data related to the condition of Muslims in India, showing that Muslims have been discriminated against in administration and political system for their ‘sin’ of having created Pakistan, it would be grossly wrong not to find out the problems of the Christian population in India, a majority of whom happen to be Dalits and tribals. The recent NSSO data have revealed that the poverty in the Christian community is far more than that in the Muslims. While Muslims being the second majority of the country must get their due share in the power structure, we must also ask the government to appoint a Committee like the Sachar Committee to study the condition of Christians as they are the main victims of the Sangh Parivar’s violence after the Muslims.

The Christian community must introspect why it is unable to counter the Sangh Parivar’s propaganda and assault on its churches and machinery. It must learn a lesson or two from its Muslim brethrens. Muslims are a politically mobile community in India particularly in Uttar Pradesh and Bihar. Their political understanding is far superior that of the other communities. Muslims have depended on their own work and never on any government dole and therefore can still live their life in greater dignity. Christians, on the other hand, have remained a highly apolitical community. People like John Dayal are in a minority in the community for they speak the truth without feeling guilty or apprehensive of the Sangh Parivar and its goons. Of course, the price has been bigger in the form of they being the targets of attacks but they have remained uncompromising. The Christians by and large remain part of the power structure, particularly the upper caste elite among them, and therefore do not hesitate even in compromising the interests of the community. John Dayal remains an exception among the Christian elite who we can find at all platforms—from those against communalism to those fighting unsus-tainable globalisation or assault on Dalits and tribals or special economic zones.

It is therefore important for the religious groups to leave the space for the political people to lead the movement for human rights of their members in India. A community under theocratic leadership cannot fight its battle for survival, which is essentially political. And hence John Dayal’s words need to be heard with attention.

Christians : A Faith under Assault in Secular India - Mainstream Weekly
 
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How about this Happening in Pakistan...

Short term memory loss.....I guess..

Hardly a week had passed after the shameful attacks on the lives and livelihood of the besieged Christian community of Gojra, that a well-known Islamic televangelist appeared on his show on a local TV channel and freely exhibited the audacity to explain this attack by vicious Islamic sectarian organisations as a conspiracy by the West to make Pakistanis question the contentious Blasphemy Laws.

First of all, as usual, before spouting this claptrap, such TV hosts have absolutely no substantive proofs ever to back their demagogic finger-pointing rituals.

But utmost is the fact that the tongue-wagging gentleman had himself been embroiled last year in a stunning controversy where he was directly accused by his former party, the MQM, and some bold journalists, for initiating and encouraging attacks against Punjab’s Ahmadiyya community through his show.

Thus, what moral right does this highly animated fellow has to even address the issue of the attacks in Gojra, let alone offer bizarre and thoroughly unreasonable theories, pointing fingers at the usually elusive and unsubstantiated conglomerate of conspirators?

His self-righteous and delusional take on the said issue must have come as a hurtful bolt of insensitivity to those who lost their loved ones in the insane fires of fanaticism that almost completely burned down the Christian community in Gojra.

I would also like to question the mainstream TV channel he is a part of; a channel that usually loves to harp about its love for democracy, tolerance and justice, but continues to give wide open spaces to so-called ‘experts’ and ‘Islamic scholars’ who have actually turned religion into a licence to rationalise hate and half-truths.

It was a disgrace watching the same gentleman gleaming and rubbing his hands last year as one of his ‘scholar’ guests lashed out at the Ahmadiyya community, creating a tragic commotion against the community in Lahore.

The host showed not even the slightest indication of expressing any kind of remorse, and neither did the channel even when certain leading newspapers ran stories, editorials and articles on the event.

Next up was his even more bizarre reaction to the Swat girl’s flogging episode. He first condemned the event, mainly because his channel was one of the first ones to break the horrifying news.

However soon, the host suddenly took a sharp turn and started hurling abuse at the supposed ‘agents’ of the West and India, who he claimed were behind the flogging ‘drama,’ and also mocked liberal Pakistanis for exaggerating the issue.

He called such Pakistanis ‘enlightened’ with such venom and sarcasm that it seemed he was rooting for obscurantist darkness over spiritual and secular enlightenment.

After all, the whole notion of obscurantism is tailor-made for exactly such characters who hide behind their televised celebratory status, constructed from unsubstantiated accusations, a warped understanding of religion and politics, and more so, a smug and arrogant insensitivity towards the emotionally venerable sides of human nature.

The truth is, such men, who are these days a dime a dozen on the mainstream electronic media for entirely cynical economic reasons on the part of the channels who hire them in their mad race for ratings, have been of no service at all to the religion and the country that they claim they are there to save from supposed ‘anti-Islam/Pakistan forces.’
Not even once have these elusive forces convincingly been exposed — at least never through any academically and journalistically sound proofs and sources, but instead rhetorical hate speeches or a messy jumbling up of bits and pieces taken from populist conspiracy theories found in anarchic pulp literature, unsubstantiated cyber rants, and low-budget B-movie ‘documentaries’ are used to build fiery narratives that claim to offer ‘facts’ and ‘expose’ the workings of the forces that are creating sectarian, religious and political turmoil in Pakistan.

The fact that the channel actually decided to give its host the space and freedom to comment the way he did on the Gojra incident when the scars of the event were still fresh and bleeding, shows just how obsessive we become to at once promote and propagate half-truths just to defend and obscure the hollowness of that pretence of tolerance and equality we all love to portray.

A shame indeed.

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