Secular Liberalism’s sex & alcohol problem

[Luffy 500]

Showing your "Islamic teachings" by starting posts with personal attacks? Islam teaches patience and love fyi. Which you obv lacks completely.

It seems my Islamically sanctioned commendable and praiseworthy hatred for disbelief has been channeled (incorrectly) into personal attack against you. For that I apologize. I am a sinful muslim at the end of the day. Make no mistake I do hate the disbeleif that you stand for and advocate though.

When it comes to Pakistan i will not allow an "OUTSIDER" like you to comment what is good for my country and what isn't people like you only want to push Muslim majority countries centuries back we are just recovering from the damage not again.

As I said you are a nobody to dictate what should & should NOT be my business.

Heretics and enemies of Islam have been day dreaming about recovering Muslim lands since the time of Prophet Muhammad (saw). Orthodox Islam is standing tall and flourishing while the heretics and anti-islamic bigots have become dustbins of history eg.- the muhtazilas, the jahamis, qadiyanis, communist "muslims", the kemalists etc etc. I will keep on trying to wake you up from that day dream .

Ah so finally you're telling us who you really are a takfiri if i want to i can do the same to you but than it's a wrong thing for me to do personally. Anyway people like you and those who support you are not worth it you can only be good entertainers for a limited time than you people get annoying.

Takfiri? really? When did I made takfir exactly? You yourself advocate and profess the religion of secular liberalism. You very statement is blatant proof of that. I am just adreesing you by what you yourself claim to be. How else should I address a self-proclaimed liberal secularist in an anonymous public forum?

 

[The Sandman]

Make no mistake I do hate the disbeleif that you stand for and advocate though.

I advocate it for my country ONLY so i don't understand why any non Pakistani should've a problem with it.

As I said you are a nobody to dictate what should & should NOT be my business.

You too are nobody to tell us what we should advocate for our country and what not. E. Pakistanis got their country in '71 now they don't have a say in our internal matters and vice versa.

enemies of Islam

become dustbins of history

Good. But don't know why are you telling me this.

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

I am a sinful muslim at the end of the day.

"O you who believe! Why do you say that which you do not do? Most hateful it is with Allah that you say that which you do not do" [Quran, 61: 2-3]

laissez-faire attitude

You definitely shouldn't be quoting Laissez-faire, especially since that type of attitude lead to workers during the industrial revolution being brutally treated.

Anything & everything that concerns muslims in any part of the world is my business as a Muslim.

No, not really.

You and your ideology have nothing to do with Islam. It's people like you that kill innocent Muslims over your arbitrary crap that has no basis in Islam.

Abu Hurayra (RA) narrates that the Noble Prophet (SAS) said, “The killing of a Muslim by another unjustly, usurping others’ wealth or defaming other Muslims is totally forbidden (or Haram).” (Sahih Muslim)

. We are in a open public forum with members from many countries. I hope your snowflake self can first comprehend that and learn how to read the article before uttering non-sense and making a fool out of yourself.

Jesus, you sound like an Islamaphobic republican too busy trying to bring "Christianity" back into the U.S. How ironic...

noting

*nothing

satanic inspired religion of Secular Liberalism.

Secularism is a political ideology not a religion.

As for child marriage it depends on what you mean by it.

Quite possibly the worst answer you could have possibly given.

You should inform yourself that we muslims do NOT take our morality from your prophets like John Locke, Ataturk, Voltaire, Madison and Jefferson. We have the Greatest Human being to ever walk this earth - Prophet Muhammad (saw) who taught us about morality, right & wrong, good & evil. SO laugh all you want, the joke is on ignorant intellectually colonized people like you.

What?

"Whoever follows a path in the pursuit of knowledge, Allah will make a path to Paradise easy for him." (Al-Bukhari)

Of course, Muslims can learn from people like Ataturk, Voltaire, Thomas Jefferson, etc.

This has nothing to do with liberalism? really?

Yes

Please do read the article . As an outsider to your religion, I will take the word of your ulemas and faqihs when trying to form a opinion on your religion (secular liberalism).

Once again with this bull, I am a Muslim and so is any Muslim who supports Secularism/Secularism or both. You do not get to pick and choose who is Muslim and who is not. Are you Allah(swt)? No? Then you can't call other Muslims non-muslims simply because you share different political beliefs.

The Prophet (pbuh) is also reported to have said: “Whoever defends the honor of his brother, Allah will protect his face from the Fire on the Day of Resurrection.” (Related by Ahmad and Tirmidhi)

“Keep this under control.” When the Sahaba asked, “will we be called to account for what we say?” He replied, “Won’t the people be thrown face down into Hell on account of the produce of their tongues.” (Related by Tirmidhi).

@EgyptianAmerican @Hell hound @Zibago @Azlan Haider so guys here we're 2nd time i was declared Kafir on the same thread! i wonder if there will be any punishment for these guys in religion?

“Do not defame one another.” (Surah Al-Hujurat, 49:11)

Barae says: Prophet (S) spoke for us, and so loudly that even the girls in the houses too heard. He said: O the group who has believed by tongue, but not by heart. Do not slander about a Muslim, and do not spy their secret affairs, the one who is curious for the secret affairs of his religious brothers, God shall reveal his own secret affairs and scandalizes him inside his own house.

"Slander is forbidden for each Muslim, and surely slander destroys good deeds as the fire destroys wood."

"One who says what he has seen and heard about a believer is among those that God has told about them: those who like the vices to spread among believers, there shall be a painful chastisement for them."

"One who narrates with the purpose of backbiting and dishonouring a believer to be reproached before people, God shall evict him from His protection to Satan's protection, and Satan too does not accept him"

the muhtazilas, the jahamis, qadiyanis, communist "muslims", the kemalists etc etc.

@Luffy 500 I would suggest you pick up a Quran and read it, as well as go to Hajj to repent because at this pace not even Satan would like to be near you.

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

Couldn't really bother reading the whole thread but just a small message for @Luffy 500, if half of your posts are replies are literally copy and pasted articles and speeches you've already lost the argument. Form an opinion of your own. The future is now.