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the question is very simple - in 2002 it was a mil-govt. anything crossing the eastern border will get a immediate response (SOP) - now we have a'civilian' set-up. the govt in power has to give the order - "it can be a standing order" similar to the SOP on the eastern border and the PAF will respond - but lets be 'prepared' for the repurcussions!!!

who will give the orders
 
who will give the orders

First Pakistani leaders won't give the order as they don't want to annoy their master however if we assume an order is passed, PAF will take so much time in responding that the attacker will laeve our air space as they are also answerable to their master. Furthermore, it requires will and courage which they also lack.

Thanks
 
we cannot detect stealth drones let alone shooting at them
 
just like they can shoot the helicopters that landed in abbotabad, which they werent even able to see
 
the question is very simple - in 2002 it was a mil-govt. anything crossing the eastern border will get a immediate response (SOP) - now we have a'civilian' set-up. the govt in power has to give the order - "it can be a standing order" similar to the SOP on the eastern border and the PAF will respond - but lets be 'prepared' for the repurcussions!!!

Exactly Sir, on the one hand, we vouch for democracy and elect the likes of Zardari and Co. and when the need arises, we expect the armed forces to take unilateral decisions and go gung ho. It's now well known that the PAF had those Choppers in sight but the order from the top was to pull back.
If any thing, the Civilian set up needs a kick on the back side to understand the public out cry. Lest they call it a great victory.
 
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Sir are you sure they are real?....these are similar to night scramble scenes in a PAF song 'Shaheen ki dua', it was recorded prior to the event....
 
It was sheer spine less military who can only dare to challenge the pilot machine drones..when US enters Pak they keep shut...sovierigity and self respect thrown away by these **** military..what a shame they cannot protect the fellow citizens what happens when they come and seize all the nukes ? Windjammer....therez no point to lift the **** military elites to be super powers...they are all self centered to leach on poor pakistanis...Now they have nothing to boost up their morale among the people..bringing INDIA into everything..this is sheer inferiority complex
 
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Courtesy : Air Directorate ISPR

PTV news stamp on a ISPR handout?!?!?!?!
BUSTED!!!

Sir are you sure they are real?....these are similar to night scramble scenes in a PAF song 'Shaheen ki dua', it was recorded prior to the event....

SUPER BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!

Windjammer, naughty boy, caught cheating again? Why do you think nobody will notice the Video Screen grabs?
 
Very use full past reminder,:yahoo:
the problem is that India is Pakistan clear enemy and Army need no Order from Govt to Defend against it by any means . But US is our so-called Friend (the worst friend) the day when our GOvt fully accept this .then things may change very much:argh:

no it is not that india is enemy and USA is not.
It is being realistic. Can we fight USA?
 
PTV news stamp on a ISPR handout?!?!?!?!
BUSTED!!!



SUPER BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!

Windjammer, naughty boy, caught cheating again? Why do you think nobody will notice the Video Screen grabs?
Still trolling around, finding facts hard to digest. Did you deliberately missed this image, but then that is expected from you.

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