Saudis 'eye Pakistani nukes' to face Iran

[Mosamania]

In other words your saying the backstabbing was justified because the Ottoman empire was "dying", and how are you so sure thet it wouldn't have remained if Arabs did not revolt?

You know in the case of Syria and about all other Arab nations they revolted twice. If I am not mistaking the Syrians also staged an armed rebellion against the French.

 

[muse]

Muse among others force you to go on the diffesive on this forum... but I understand our past is dark and grim. So I don't blame everyone for thinking what they do we have it coming and it was our mistake. However I signed up in this forum not to defend the royal family but to show everyone that we have changed. Wallahe we have changed. We will never go back to what we were. And we are heading in the right direction.

Mosa, Where did this come from? Are you still playing the victim while supporting the state? truly you will never change, it seems you have a political mission for being on this forum

 

[SyrianChristianPatriot]

In other words your saying the backstabbing was justified because the Ottoman empire was "dying", and how are you so sure thet it wouldn't have remained if Arabs did not revolt?

Can you just let it go for the last time GOD SAKES>>>>>> The Empire was already dying WW1, Nationalism not just from Arabs but Armenians and other minorities, the society was backwards the Young Turks tried to reform it like Gorbachev tried with the USSR but it failed, there's point in looking back if you desire a new ottoman empire you can ask erdogan to form a Turkey East Middle Union.

 

[Mosamania]

If im not wrong than Al-Saud family had been in war atleast two times in history but defeated badly so after the death of Ottoman Empire they took the control from sharif Hussain. But even if Ottoman Empire had not engaged in WW there was a iota possibility that it would have survived later incidents especially in WW2 Bcoz after Sultan Suleiman there was no good ruler to lead ottoman empire .

Yes the first one was defeated by the ottomans by their Egypt counterpart. The second one was defeated by internal fighting....yeah they were such a mess....

 

[muse]

Pakistan should not get embroiled in the rivalry of these 2 bickering children

Unfortunately, it's too late for that and really it's unavoidable - though Pakistan can do much do for the two and fro Muslims in general I think, if it choose to, that is.

 

[fd24]

The warriors of the internet are yet again getting excited.
As if Pakistan would contemplate using nukes for Saudis. You international post and thread makers talk about nukes as if they are some ladoos or jalebi. These WMDs are specifically designed as a deterent for naughty and ugly neighbours that may get dellusions of grandeure. Now that is clearly incredible.

 

[Desert Fox]

That was jordan's fault not ours in the Akaba. And tell me what can he do to help the ottoman empire with a few camel riding sword wielding men??? When he noticed that there is nothing more left he went to unite the entire peninsula which in my thought was a good choice other wise you would have had another country in the Hijaz.

But is it not better to die fighting with Honor (no, i don't mean suicide bombing)?

`One days's life of a lion is preferable to hundred years' existence of a jackal'-Tipu Sultan

 

[longbrained]

Ok enough is enough. Stop it please.

 

[RazPaK]

I've said it once and I'll say it again. KSA and Iran are both of our brotherly nations. We as Pakistan need to keep our relations cordial with both of them. We need to stop trying to factor in as a balance of power, but rather as a mediator. This silly conflict between them has nothing to do with us. We have Sunnis, and the second largest population of Shia muslims after Iran. We should be better and acknowledge that both parties are Muslim. Have either of these countries shown support to Pakistan when it comes to Kashmir? The answer is obvious. We need to stop getting into regional hostilities and think global.

 

[SyrianChristianPatriot]

Actually Kurds as well as Armenians revolted not just Arabs, the Ottoman Empire was the sick man of Europe, the society was backwards there was no way to stop it's collapse.

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Ok enough is enough. Stop it please.

If you cry a little more then yes.

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Why are pakistani's crying for the Ottoman empire ? this man is building a new one lolz

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Unfortunately, it's too late for that and really it's unavoidable - though Pakistan can do much do for the two and fro Muslims in general I think, if it choose to, that is.

wuud take a balancing act....

funny thing is, i had lunch with some Saudi nationalist-leaning chest-thumping type which i dont often come across.......dont think i ever had...

he gleefully was saying "we guys paid you for some nukes....we have nukes now" and I just simply laughed and looked at him funny. They really think that Pakistan would just blindly give them nuclear bombs. They are an ally nation, but quite frankly I dont think they have even half the intelligence to know how to fire one.


actually, the Iran-Saudi rivalry is one that is a great shame to the Muslim world......they are 2 sides of the same coin. 2 irresponsibly-run countries that only care about spreading their influence, often using religious seminaries of their own kind as a way to spread it.


as i said --- we should simply ignore both.....if they want to verbally and physically abuse eachother then it shouldnt be our problem. We should have nothing at all to do with it.

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I've said it once and I'll say it again. KSA and Iran are both of our brotherly nations. We as Pakistan need to keep our relations cordial with both of them. We need to stop trying to factor in as a balance of power, but rather as a mediator. This silly conflict between them has nothing to do with us. We have Sunnis, and the second largest population of Shia muslims after Iran. We should be better and acknowledge that both parties are Muslim. Have either of these countries shown support to Pakistan when it comes to Kashmir? The answer is obvious. We need to stop getting into regional hostilities and think global.

it becomes a problem when they use countries like Lebanon, Iraq, Yemen and even Pakistan to stage their stupid proxy wars, some of which take an ideological component to them

if our leaders had balls, they would be very clear on this

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and Muse --- don't even think about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you know what i'm talking about too

 

[RazPaK]

Sorry to be vulgar, but why should we aid in a penis measuring contest?

 

[SyrianChristianPatriot]

The USA influence is dying in the Middle East, but there's an Oil Thirsty Dragon( China) waiting to fell it in we need to let it in lol

 

[Mosamania]

Sorry to be vulgar, but why should we aid in a penis measuring contest?

Lol actually Saudi-Iran relations are somewhat good now.

 

[SyrianChristianPatriot]

Lol actually Saudi-Iran relations are somewhat good now.

Indeed , The USA influence is dying in the Middle East, but there's an Oil Thirsty Dragon( China) waiting to fell it in we need to let it in lol , If America Invaded Hell Then I will ally myself with the Devil