Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[Novus ordu seclorum]

It can be used as a bargaining option by Russia but the trap there is that if Russia uses tactical nukes in some area then from Ukraine airspace Usa can launch cruise missiles from Poland, Mediterranean or from anywhere else and hit all Russian targets in the Smo zone. That will cause massive loss in Russian equipment and personnel. They have threatened to make a large scale conventional attack to Russian military assets in Smo zone if Russia uses nukes in beginning stages of the conflict. I dont know if Russia prepared for protection from a large scale usa cruise missile attack in the Smo zone where a large portion of their army is placed now.

Usa cruise missile attack after Russian tactical nukes will start a war between nato-Russia but if zelensky says that they did the attack themselves not anyone else did the large scale cruise missile attack they will ofcourse be thrown under the bus and get nuked(high yield not tactical) by Russia fully possibly but other countries involved in the cruise missile attack will be out of direct conflict with Russia. In that case Russian military will be damaged and weakened by this sudden attack with the expense that Ukraine will be totally destroyed by nukes. In that case trump can make a deal with a weakened Russia to save them from that position and in return Russia would stay silent in future Usa operations in the mideast.

That wont happen if Russia prepared fortified positions in Smo zone and brought enough anti cruise missile sam systems to protect from a large scale Usa attack in Smo zone. Also early warning systems against cruise missiles need to be placed like awacs(costly and Ukraine did shoot some of them down) or helicopter installed early warning radars. In that case even if large scale cruise missile attack happens the Russian military assets would be somewhat secure. Ofcourse after usage of tactical nukes there would be negative economic issues for Russia and it would result in tactical nuclear usage in other areas like maybe israel can resort to tacticals after that. So this is an unwanted situation. Defensive deescalation moves by allies like Iran and China to support Russia as well as to restrain Russian response to Ukraine would be a better option.

Trump will back down. He has said Biden has brought us closest to World War 3 than anyone in history and he is right. He said it means the end of the world because of nuclear weapons. That is his only redeeming quality, he is not trying to bring the world to an end. He has business instinct and is open to a deal.

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

Trump is scary at the same time, he has surrounded himself by messianic religious cult like extremists. There is nothing more extremist than Christian Zionist Evangelicals and Greater Israel Zionists. Their language is very imperialistic against Arabs and Iranians. They have Arab states as vassals, and will exert Israeli domination. Genociding Arabs is much easier and safer than fighting Russia.

 

[RoadAmerica]

Trump is scary at the same time, he has surrounded himself by messianic religious cult like extremists. There is nothing more extremist than Christian Zionist Evangelicals and Greater Israel Zionists. Their language is very imperialistic against Arabs and Iranians. They have Arab states as vassals, and will exert Israeli domination. Genociding Arabs is much easier and safer than fighting Russia.

Cry harder

I think Trump will end the war. This sums it up below.
@IlyaTERA 1 month ago
And for 2 years the media has been saying that Ukraine is winning

@haveaniceday6983 2 weeks ago
Have they lost

@IlyaTERA 2 weeks ago
Yes, they have lost an area of land the size of Portugal that they will NEVER get back. And that land was Russia's goal since the beginning, anyone that thinks Russia's goal was to "conquer" all of Ukraine is clueless.

lol way to move those goal posts waaaay back. So what was the goal of the 3 day special military operation then?

In September, Russian President Vladimir Putin issued a warning to Western nations, stating that Russia might use nuclear weapons if its territory faced direct attacks. This declaration came amidst growing tensions over the Ukraine conflict and concerns about potential escalation involving advanced weaponry provided by Western allies to Ukraine. Putin emphasized that Russia’s nuclear doctrine allows for such measures under extreme circumstances, signaling Moscow’s resolve to deter threats to its sovereignty and territorial integrity.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1858266531169542550

Bring it
All talk for 3 years, nuke this nuke that.

He is willing to use tactical nuclear weapons against a non nuclear state if it is backed by a nuclear state. Specific conditions.

Been waiting 3 years

 

[vizier]

Trump will back down. He has said Biden has brought us closest to World War 3 than anyone in history and he is right. He said it means the end of the world because of nuclear weapons. That is his only redeeming quality, he is not trying to bring the world to an end. He has business instinct and is open to a deal.

In that scenario to work all would happen in biden era to make Russia use tactical nukes and Usa strike Russian smo positions sacrificing Ukraine in 2 months time and after trump starts office then he will try to make a deal with a "weakened" Russia. If Russia restrains and uses only conventional means and dont resort to tactical nukes in two months time despite any provacation then this plan will not work. trump will have to stop the conflict anyways and can't get any concessions from Russia who is in stronger adventageous position right now.

 

[Akbar26]

Russian President Vladimir Putin has issued a stark warning to the West, stating that Russia may resort to using nuclear weapons if it comes under attack, particularly if conventional strikes are supported by a nuclear power. This statement comes amid ongoing tensions surrounding the conflict in Ukraine and reflects significant changes to Russia's nuclear doctrine.

Key Points:​

• Nuclear Doctrine Changes: Putin announced that amendments to Russia's nuclear doctrine are being formalized, which will clarify the conditions under which nuclear weapons could be deployed. He indicated that any conventional attack on Russia, especially if backed by a nuclear state, would be considered a "joint attack" and could trigger a nuclear response.
• Context of the Warning: The warning appears to be a direct response to discussions in the West about providing Ukraine with long-range missiles capable of striking deep into Russian territory. Putin emphasized that such actions would escalate the conflict and could lead to severe consequences.
• Conditions for Nuclear Use: According to Putin, Russia reserves the right to use nuclear weapons if it detects a significant missile or aerial assault on its territory. He stated that any aggression against Russia or its ally Belarus, including conventional attacks that threaten sovereignty, could prompt a nuclear response.
• Geopolitical Implications: This rhetoric underscores the heightened tensions between Russia and NATO countries, particularly as military support for Ukraine increases. The potential for nuclear engagement raises alarms about the risks of escalation into broader conflict.
• International Reactions: Ukrainian officials and Western leaders have characterized Putin's threats as attempts at intimidation. They argue that such rhetoric should not deter continued support for Ukraine against Russian aggression.

This situation illustrates the precarious nature of international relations in the context of the ongoing war in Ukraine, with significant implications for global security and stability.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1858759613891367160

 

[sidkhan2]

On November 17, 2024, Russia launched one of its most extensive aerial assaults on Ukraine, firing over 200 missiles and dronestargeting critical infrastructure across the country. This attack has resulted in significant destruction and civilian casualties.

Key Details of the Attack​

• Scale of Assault: President Volodymyr Zelenskyy reported that Russian forces unleashed approximately 120 missiles and 90 drones, marking this as one of the largest coordinated attacks since the beginning of the conflict. Ukrainian defense forces successfully intercepted over 140 aerial targets during the assault.
• Casualties: The attacks have led to at least five fatalities, with additional injuries reported. Notably, a drone strike in Mykolaiv resulted in the deaths of two individuals and injuries to several others, including children. Explosions were reported in major cities, including Kyiv and Odesa, disrupting daily life and causing panic among residents.
• Targeted Infrastructure: The primary objective of the strikes was Ukraine's energy infrastructure, which has been a focal point of Russian attacks throughout the war. The strikes have caused widespread blackouts, with emergency power outages declared in multiple regions as energy facilities sustained significant damage.
• Geopolitical Context: This escalation comes amid ongoing concerns about Russia's military strategy and its implications for winter operations in Ukraine. As the conflict nears its third year, the intensity of these attacks reflects Russia's continued focus on crippling Ukraine's energy capabilities.

Broader Implications​

• International Reactions: The attack has prompted renewed calls for increased military support for Ukraine from Western allies. Ukrainian officials have urged for enhanced air defense systems to better protect against such aerial assaults.
• Future Outlook: As winter approaches, the vulnerability of Ukraine's energy infrastructure raises concerns about humanitarian impacts and civilian safety. The ongoing conflict continues to evolve, with both sides preparing for potential further escalations.

This recent wave of attacks underscores the persistent volatility in the region and highlights the ongoing challenges faced by Ukraine as it seeks to defend its sovereignty against aggressive military actions from Russia.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1858144308517642655

 

[Novus ordu seclorum]

lol way to move those goal posts waaaay back. So what was the goal of the 3 day special military operation then?

This guy below makes convincing argument.

@IlyaTERA 5 days ago
@Aijaleena Yeah but your point is invalid, because Russia hasnt even had full mobilisation. Literally just paid contract soldiers. Ukraine however is mobilising much more harshly by literally dragging people off the streeets into vans and delivering them straight to the trenches. Do some research and find out how many Russian soldiers entered Ukraine on day 1. It is not a number that is sufficient to try to take a massive country like that, simply because it wasnt the intention.

@yaahoo5041 5 days ago
@IlyaTERA no, you tell us for what they only need East Ukraine if you're so well informed.

@IlyaTERA 5 days ago
@yaahoo5041 Sure its extremely simple, the majority of the population in eastern ukraine is Russian-speaking and were oppressed by the Kiev regime, hence the 4 oblasts declared independence via a referendum and asked for help from Russia. They are happy to be in the Russian Federation now. Enjoy.

In that scenario to work all would happen in biden era to make Russia use tactical nukes and Usa strike Russian smo positions sacrificing Ukraine in 2 months time and after trump starts office then he will try to make a deal with a "weakened" Russia. If Russia restrains and uses only conventional means and dont resort to tactical nukes in two months time despite any provacation then this plan will not work. trump will have to stop the conflict anyways and can't get any concessions from Russia who is in stronger adventageous position right now.

Russia has what they want. Trump will call off the war. He said he will sit with Putin and Zelensky.

 

[sidkhan2]

Ukrainian forces have conducted their first strike inside Russian territory using American-supplied ATACMS missiles, marking a significant escalation in the ongoing conflict. This development follows President Joe Biden'srecent authorization allowing Ukraine to utilize these long-range missiles against Russian targets, a decision that has drawn sharp reactions from Moscow.

Key Details​

• First Strike Inside Russia: The Ukrainian military successfully launched an ATACMS missile strike in a border region within Russia, targeting military assets. This operation is seen as a response to the increasing threats posed by Russian forces, particularly with the deployment of North Korean troops to support Russia's military efforts.
• Biden's Authorization: Biden's decision to permit Ukraine to use ATACMS missiles represents a major shift in U.S. policy, aimed at bolstering Ukraine's ability to defend itself and counter Russian aggression. This authorization allows for strikes deeper into Russian territory, which had previously been restricted.
• Military Implications: The ATACMS missiles, which have a range of approximately 300 kilometers, are capable of targeting critical military infrastructure, logistics hubs, and troop concentrations. Analysts suggest that this capability could significantly enhance Ukraine's operational effectiveness against Russian forces.

Reactions​

• Russian Response: Moscow has condemned the U.S. decision, warning that it could escalate the conflict further and potentially lead to broader military confrontations. Russian lawmakers have characterized the move as unacceptable, with some suggesting it could provoke a third world war.
• Ukrainian Perspective: Ukrainian officials and military personnel have expressed relief and gratitude for the support provided by the U.S., emphasizing that these capabilities are crucial for countering Russian advances and protecting Ukrainian sovereignty.

Broader Context​

• Ongoing Conflict: The use of ATACMS comes amid a backdrop of intensified fighting in Ukraine, with Russia launching extensive missile attacks on Ukrainian cities. The situation remains fluid, with both sides preparing for potential escalations as winter approaches.
• International Dynamics: The decision by Biden also reflects broader geopolitical considerations, including the need to deter further aggression from Russia and its allies. The involvement of North Korean troops alongside Russian forces adds another layer of complexity to the conflict.

Conclusion​

The first use of ATACMS missiles by Ukraine inside Russia marks a pivotal moment in the ongoing war, potentially altering the dynamics of the conflict. As both sides brace for further confrontations, the international community will be closely watching how this escalation impacts regional stability and security.