Saudi Arabia to 'shift away from the US' over Iran, Syria

[BATMAN]

who else will they go to?

Apparently the current geo political situation is not leaving many options for Saudi Arabia.
Despite the fact, ti was the last king who was more close and dependent on US and the current king has actually changed it.

and ARAMCO? It'll be disbanded just like that? The security pact?

What about ARAMCO? I can tell you about ARAMCO more than Saudis, it is a world leader in petrochemical, it will maintain it so.
Infact, ARAMCO maintain its own standards and products.

I don't know which pact you are referring to, i know only of GCC pact.
Actually if you see the map Saudi Arabia is surrounded by troubled states just like Pakistan.

and the Islamic World doesn't need a "leader"....we are independent nations, in some cases we share little in common except religion. Lets come to grips with our differences and work with eachother based on the premise we are Islamic countries that have potential to be a 'bloc'

Pakistan have no differences, however in shape of Syrian/Iraq theatre, issues are grief in middleast.
You are undermining the situation.
I doubt, any individual in Syria would listen to any advice, about coming to any peace terms.
Asad should have resigned much early and Iran shall have not sent the IRG.... now only imagination is the limit.. how much wedge Iran has created in Islamic world... so differences is a small word, when it comes to middleast.
Sorry... this is the ground reality, which you and me cannot sense for not being part of it.
Try to find a Syrian around your self and ask for first hand opinion.

and that's wishful thinking....maybe the day Saudis and Iranians set aside their mentally retarded rivalries and centuries' old mistrust of eachother

I wish this would have been the case, and when new Saudi king came... every one was hopeful and infact the kind offered reset button to Tehran... unfortunately in return, Saudi leadership has been tested to the beyond the limits.

On subject, my assessment is Saudi Arabia will not break-up with US over US-Iran relations.

I see no logic in OP, as India and Israel have security pacts and relationships but no one ever spoke of Iran India break-up.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

So sorry. This excuse isn't acceptable to any decent human being. Yes, I might understand that you had gone through a lot of inner-drama and stuff, but remember the war lasted for 8 years. Hadn't been the mullahs fault to bear or did the Iranian people pay for it? Well, I believe we both already know the answer to that.

No hard feelings.

You can keep using the Iran-Iraq war as a referance, but its just foolish.
Iran was under major upheaval and had just undergone a revolution. Lot of the Shah military generals were executed, so we were at a severe disadvantage. Actually we didnt really have a meaningful cohesive conventional military, as it was the Shahs military. It was in disarray.
Iraq was also very strong at the time, not to mention the arms embargo, whereas Iraq got major support from US, France, UK etc.
We had to trade hostages to get weapons (contra affair).
We mainly fought off invasion through assymetric guerilla war.

So this comparison of Iran-Iraq war is just silly. But if it makes you feel good, keep referencing it.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Not exactly true. Iran, in the long-term, has more economic potential than KSA. It has more and better resources (gas/oil, non-oil industry and size of population). Read the future economic analysis of both KSA and Iran. I'll quote:

Recent thaw in US-Iran relations could free up production in Iran, reboot Rhum field

Defensive Persian vs Arab interpretation

He didn't lay out a comparison between KSA and Iran, but he was putting it in general sense.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Yes, You can try along with GCC to bring US down to its knees, but only if you want to bring 'Democracy' & 'Freedom' in SA along with OTHER GCC nations

Depends on how you define the phrase ' bring someone to his/her knees. Usually, the reference is associated with money, a problem which not just the US have but many all across the globe.

 

[Maler]

India is not involve in this so I would suggest you keep your nose out.

Then I suggest you to pack your bags and go to any Arabic forum, this is a public forum and I will comment where I want to. Specially where some fanboy bite more than It can swallow and this boasting bite is too big to even chew let alone swallow.

 

[Doritos11]

The hell are you talking about? How would Aramco get disbanded. Saudi arabia along with GCC are capable of bringing the US down to its knees if we want to. Also, what security pact are you referring to? What!! do you know something about my country that I don't?

Do you really believe this ?

The US has enough soldiers in Kuwait & Qatar to annex those 2 or do anything with it what they want, enough firepower stationed in the gulf with the 5th fleet to back that up and deter anyone from doing something & air force bases in the UAE to take some control of their resources.

You need them, not the other way around, last time you needed them was not even a long time ago.

 

[SQ8]

The question is; Where will they move to? As such, China and Russia are against them in their views on Syria and Iran. The GCC Bloc as a whole is tied to them in fits and starts so technically Saudi Arabia or Qatar are leading the charge. Back in the US the sentiment is of cautious thawing at Iran and it seems at this stage that the lobbies for SA arent getting much ground out. The solution is to go back to the original approach of working and coordinating with Israel(and its lobbyist groups in Washington) to ensure that the White House comes under enough pressure from the Senate and House that they have to invent a narrative to put Iran back in the cross hairs.

Simple.

 

[xyxmt]

Don't worry, I will make sure we won't let you in. I'm not done yet with Hajj so I'm used to see your kins and kind on daily basis.

But I suspect we will let you in anyway.

you cant stop Canadian you give us special treatment, remember we are better than you!
by the way you wish you were our kind but as long as our kind can protect you its fine

Didn't the Saudis ask for protection from Iraq from the US?

protection from Iraq, from Iran, From Israel, from Syria, from Hazbullah, from Joe Smith and Hannah

 

[esfahanijew]

The hell are you talking about? How would Aramco get disbanded. Saudi arabia along with GCC are capable of bringing the US down to its knees if we want to. Also, what security pact are you referring to? What!! do you know something about my country that I don't?



No doubt.



Maybe we need to reconquer Iran for peace and prosperity to prevail.

Reconquer iran?? with what camel and dishdasha and iqal

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

What special treatment ? You are making me laugh even though I don't feel like it. We carried the death peneality on a Candian national, and we can do it again if there were a need to it.

you cant stop Canadian you give us special treatment, remember we are better than you!
by the way you wish you were our kind but as long as our kind can protect you its fine

No, I don't think I wish to associate myself with such individuals like yourself. First, figure a new way out to afford to eat and then we can talk about protection.

The question is; Where will they move to? As such, China and Russia are against them in their views on Syria and Iran. The GCC Bloc as a whole is tied to them in fits and starts so technically Saudi Arabia or Qatar are leading the charge. Back in the US the sentiment is of cautious thawing at Iran and it seems at this stage that the lobbies for SA arent getting much ground out. The solution is to go back to the original approach of working and coordinating with Israel(and its lobbyist groups in Washington) to ensure that the White House comes under enough pressure from the Senate and House that they have to invent a narrative to put Iran back in the cross hairs.

Simple.

Just wanted to add something, if I may please. The Jewish lobby is now exerting a tremendous amount of pressure on the Obama's White House.

 

[Surenas]

KSA (ARAMCO) can bring the US to its knees? You mean like if KSA would ever threaten American interests to such extent that it would endanger American or global economy, those oil fields, let alone KSA, would not be taken over by US forces within one week? Good luck with using your air force against the Americans then, since your American-made plans do not have the capability to lock onto US planes.

 

[somebozo]

I predicted this coming very long ago..Saudi Arabia will enter next phase of "King Fahd" era!.

KSA (ARAMCO) can bring the US to its knees? You mean like if KSA would ever threaten American interests to such extent that it would endanger American or global economy, those oil fields, let alone KSA, would not be taken over by US forces within one week? Good luck with using your air force against the Americans then, since your American-made plans do not have the capability to lock onto US planes.

A number of US navel fleets are based in eastern region and Bahrain to cull any such attempt. And Saudi forces are no match for US Special ops and Navy Seal teams.

 

[Aslan]

India is not involve in this so I would suggest you keep your nose out.

U think they will do that, its our destruction that they take pleasure in, and sorry to say. But the way you guys give them all the un deserving credit they think its their God given right to run their mouth, and poke their nose where it dont even belong.

 

[somebozo]

KSA has more potential to atleast rule over the Islamic world than any other country,They just need better leaders.

No one wishes to live under imperialism...you should erect your tent in Arabia!

 

[wi969ra]

Reconquer Iran....Bring US to its knees...
The delusions running in these Saudis veins are comedy

Delusional Sauds living in history .