Saudi Arabia Stymies U.S. Over Pakistan Terror List

[Ocean]

My thoughts as well. Thank you Saudia Arabia. Now can you please bend GCC to provide Pakistan the "most favoured" category for labour/workers. Send them Indians packing home to give Modi a kick up his as*s.

In return send all of Pakistan Army. Half to fight those Shia Houthis in Yemen and the other half to guard the Sauds - all sng in their palaces. Bottom line is all about dollars. A extra 2 million workers in KSA/GCC from Pakistan would mean about 20 million Pakistani's rising out of poverty which then would create a economic boom in Pakistan with GDP growth rising to maybe 7%. On the contrary as the 2 million unemployed Indian come back to India it would cause massive economic disaster for Modi. From airlines to demand inside India would fall leading to Indian economy slowing down.

If only ...

Regarding indian workers u need to see some background.
Before oil boom gulf countries were very poor even less developed than our city karachi. At that time many indians were working in gulf as small time businessmen , as there wasn't much wealth around so sheikhs were also not high on arrogance so many of these local pakistanis and indians , and pakistani balochs had good ties with gulf sheikhs.

Then oil boom happened, as indians had always been into running businesseses many of them benefitted and in decades ended up raising business empires that naturally helped local economies in gulf. As businesses grew these indian business owners only hired indian staff for their companies. Due to cheap labor indians managed to pick up many jobs.

So if sheikhs would have imposed on indian investors to hire pakistani workers they could have lost some business opportunities plus even if idnians did hire paksitanis they wouldnt have treated them well.

Also why pakistanis got left behind in business was their own ineptness , pakistanis dont make as brilliant businessmen as indians do. We only ace at corruption and stealing money whilst Indians engage in corruption as well as make good businessmen too.

One of my cousins was working in a multi national cos branch in gulf . It was a european company franchise perhaps sold to indians. So the entire firm had only two muslims and rest of the co workers were indian hindus , my cousins boss , an indian punjabi was nice with him but rest of the staff consisted of both north and south indian mallus who were virulent muslim haters and just wanted my cousin and other muslim guy to quit some way. At the end he was bullied so much by indians ,and thats a franchise of a european multi national company i am talking about , that my cousin ended up quitting.

Also i would say arab states worked with usa to plant regimes in pakistan to keep pakistan poor and use it as client state. Client states are poor countries who have to financially depend on rich states.

The whole ties and selling pakistani labor to gulf was started by none other than bhutto - a shia btw- anyways back in day it might have been good decision but now what are we? Ruled by corrupt politicians with a good chunk of economy dependent on gulf states remittances

 

[MultaniGuy]

Regarding indian workers u need to see soem background.
From oil boom gulf countries were veyr poor even less developed than pur coty karachi. At that time many indians were working in gulf as small time businessmen , as there wanst much weslth around so sheikhs were also not high on arrogance so many of these local pakistanis and indians , and pakistani balochs had good ties with gulf sheikhs.

Then oil boom happened as indians had always been into running businesseses amny of them benefitted and in decades ended up raising business empires that naturally helped local wconomies in gulf. As businesses grew these indian business owners only hired indian staff for their companies. Due to cheap labor indians managed to pick up many jobs.

So if sheikhs would have imposed on indian investors to hire pakistani workers they could have lost some business opportunities plus even if idnians did hire paksitanis they wouldnt have treated them well.

One of my cousins was working in a multi national cos branch in gulf . It was a european company franchise perhaps sold to indians. So the entire firm had only two muslims and rest of the co workers were indian hindus , my cousins boss an indian punjabi was nice with him but rest of the staff consisted of both north and south indian mallus who were virulent muslim haters and just wnated my cousin and other muslim guy to quit some way. At the end he was bullied so much by indians and thats a franchise of a european multi national , that my cousin ended up quitting.

Also i would say arab states worked with usa to plant regimes in pakistan to keep pakistan poor and use as client state. Client states are poir countries who have to financially depend on rich states.

The whole ties and selling pakistani labor to gulf was started by none other than bhutoo - a shia btw- anyways back in day it might have been good decision but now what are we? Corrupt regimes and a good chunk of economy dependent on gulf states?

Thats why we should increase trade with China, Japan, and Russia.

This is the only way out.

 

[Ocean]

Thats why we should increase trade with China, Japan, and Russia.

This is the only way out.

Well for the starters we need to get rid of nawaz type politicians so our tax payer money stops flying outside. Then we need to put a stern foot down and collect taxes from everyone.

Plus Pakistanis need to learn how to become good and savvy businessmen who work with humble attitude.
These will be baby steps but with pakistanis cash staying inside the country and used on development and infr projects we will grow a lot plus our labor will be used at home. Plus foreign investment is another plus.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Regarding indian workers u need to see some background.
Before oil boom gulf countries were very poor even less developed than our city karachi. At that time many indians were working in gulf as small time businessmen , as there wasn't much wealth around so sheikhs were also not high on arrogance so many of these local pakistanis and indians , and pakistani balochs had good ties with gulf sheikhs.

Then oil boom happened, as indians had always been into running businesseses many of them benefitted and in decades ended up raising business empires that naturally helped local economies in gulf. As businesses grew these indian business owners only hired indian staff for their companies. Due to cheap labor indians managed to pick up many jobs.

So if sheikhs would have imposed on indian investors to hire pakistani workers they could have lost some business opportunities plus even if idnians did hire paksitanis they wouldnt have treated them well.

Also why pakistanis got left behind in business was their own ineptness , pakistanis dont make as brilliant businessmen as indians do. We only ace at corruption and stealing money whilst Indians engage in corruption as well as make good businessmen too.

One of my cousins was working in a multi national cos branch in gulf . It was a european company franchise perhaps sold to indians. So the entire firm had only two muslims and rest of the co workers were indian hindus , my cousins boss , an indian punjabi was nice with him but rest of the staff consisted of both north and south indian mallus who were virulent muslim haters and just wanted my cousin and other muslim guy to quit some way. At the end he was bullied so much by indians ,and thats a franchise of a european multi national company i am talking about , that my cousin ended up quitting.

Also i would say arab states worked with usa to plant regimes in pakistan to keep pakistan poor and use it as client state. Client states are poor countries who have to financially depend on rich states.

The whole ties and selling pakistani labor to gulf was started by none other than bhutto - a shia btw- anyways back in day it might have been good decision but now what are we? Ruled by corrupt politicians with a good chunk of economy dependent on gulf states remittances

After reading your post maybe the Chinese like @Martian2 have a point. Our Bell curve has bulge at the bottom. Gawd help us.

 

[Corona]

My thoughts as well. Thank you Saudia Arabia. Now can you please bend GCC to provide Pakistan the "most favoured" category for labour/workers. Send them Indians packing home to give Modi a kick up his as*s.

In return send all of Pakistan Army. Half to fight those Shia Houthis in Yemen and the other half to guard the Sauds - all sng in their palaces. Bottom line is all about dollars. A extra 2 million workers in KSA/GCC from Pakistan would mean about 20 million Pakistani's rising out of poverty which then would create a economic boom in Pakistan with GDP growth rising to maybe 7%. On the contrary as the 2 million unemployed Indian come back to India it would cause massive economic disaster for Modi. From airlines to demand inside India would fall leading to Indian economy slowing down.

If only ...

I suppose we all are allowed to dream.

Regarding troops in Saudi Arabia, weren't there already some stationed there from way before, ever since the incident with the mosque? I've also read about some troops in UAE.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I suppose we all are allowed to dream.

Yep. Even a poor man can dream. Dreams are free.

 

[Ocean]

After reading your post maybe the Chinese like @Martian2 have a point. Our Bell curve has bulge at the bottom. Gawd help us.

Bell cruve on what? What Variables?

 

[Imad.Khan]

Hmmm have i missed something? why are people bashing Iran on this thread?

@PaklovesTurkiye

 

[Indus Pakistan]

What Variables?

Never mind. I was shouting in the dark.

 

[Ocean]

Hi,

You can fck off if you want to---.

Iran is an enemy of pakistan and will always be. They sold us out during the DR. A Q KHAN crisis and blamed us.

If you are a Pakistani Shia then fck Iran--who are they to you---.

See---that is what the Iraqis were saying during their war with Iran---WTF is wrong with Pakistanis---why are they coming to fight the Iraqis from Iranian side---. This is not a shia sunni war---this is a real estate problem---.

Precisely Aq khan crisis is what always comes to my mind and that resulted in global humiliation and even for that Iranian posters here blame pakistan. Then Jadev operating from chahbahar is a glaring example.

 

[Rafi]

This is not a zero sum game, we will get closer to Iran and Iraq and maintain our relations with the Arabs.

No crying by the anti Shia bigots will change that.

 

[MastanKhan]

Thats why we should increase trade with China, Japan, and Russia.

This is the only way out.

Hi,

Trade won't do anything with us---our trade would be hampered---. The only way out with strength was military might---pakistan's military presence in the gulf---.

That would have made the big difference---.

 

[Ocean]

This is not a zero sum game, we will get closer to Iran and Iraq and maintain our relations with the Arabs.

No crying by the anti Shia bigots will change that.

Its not that you own pakistan that you can decide who pakistan will get closer to. Pakistan will maintain close ties with whosoever its people, elected gov and military feels right.

And just cause people air their views it doesn't make them anti shia bigots. But yeah ur constant emphasis on dragging in sects and licking iranian backsides does tell about your own personal bigotry. And speaking against iran =/= anti shia ,but a sect obsessed person wont know anything better.

 

[Rafi]

Its not that you own pakistan that you can decide who pakistan will get closer to. Pakistan will maintain close ties with whosoever its people, elected gov and military feels right.

And just cause people air their views it doesn't make them anti shia bigots. But yeah ur constant emphasis on dragging in sects and licking iranian backsides does tell about your own personal bigotry. And speaking against iran =/= anti shia ,but a sect obsessed person wont know anything better.

Lol I have done more for Pakistan than you will ever know sonny. Jog on.

 

[khansaheeb]

really? not shamed that you were a nominee to be on that list? Blaming everything on the enemy is the easy...

We were nominees but you are real terrorists.