longbrained
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Around 4000 - 5000 tons. Remember we are a major agriculture exporter and there is tons of waste created by agriculture after crop harvesting. Infact our Sugar & wheat mills are feeding tens of megawatt of energy into the grid by utilizing agri waste.
We did our feasibility study through reputable institutes but the zardari government backed off from the support. We met some high ups of Allied Bank who were personally interested to fund the project with their private fortunes and become share holders in the company but once again the government refused to provide any support in terms of facilities or assistance.
Poor country can build pipelines to import foreign gas but cannot utilize its home grown resources to harvest energy. You should think with your long brain before making a technical statement
Iranian gas is like 10% more expensive than the market price isn't it. And this project has been in shelve for a long time as Pak gov shifted its focus to TAPI. The only reason this project is being boosted under current government is for reasons which cannot be stated on PDF anymore.. But lets add a few hints, corruption, kick backs & social associations.
Oh by the way Saudis just offered Pakistan help with its energy crisis, the logic of dragging Iran into it is perhaps figment of an imagination by Press TV impressed journalist.
There is nothing to discount the theory that after this pipe line is complete, we will be virtual hostage to typical Tehran black mailing tactics and as sanctions take a bite on Tehran economy the gas will continue to become more expensive.
Ok. I do not think we are going to get anywhere by lying. Only facts and figures please. You just make stuff on the go.
First of all we are not a major agricultural exporting country by any stretch of imagination. Most of what we produce except a few items, we eat them all. In fact Pakistan is not even in top 15 exporters either. And please stop joking with us about 4000 tonnes of waste. It can never power up the entire Pakistan. No country in the world today is running its energy policy on waste reprocessing. There are some novelties in some small municipalities in well off countries producing a few tens of Megawatts, but I have never heard Europe is to replace its gas supply by processing waste. You can not produce tens of thousands of MW of electricity out of waste. Besides gas has other uses for example Pakistan uses 18% of its total gas to make fertilizers for agriculture. Without gas here will be no agriculture and subsequently no agri waste either. So stop misguiding people here. First start running your own family on agri waste for five years entirely then talk about Pakistan. As I said the lies will not get us anywhere. We need tens of thousands of MW. Not just few tens made out of sugarcane machines.
I have answered the rest of your comment already, which are mostly based on your raw and hardly disguised prejudices which we all know about here. After all you are a Saudi lover. But the truth is Saudis have not offered us anything. No cheap below market price oil. No offer to build a submarine pipe to Pakistan. No nothing. They just want to give a loan with interest. And we all know where those loans end up. Here I put my explanation again as the answer to second part of your comment:
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I guess there are some misconceptions here about this pipeline. Let me clear them here for you with facts and figures since those who are against this pipeline can never bring up facts and figures for their side of arguments.
1- Iranian gas is going be cheaper than any other gas we have access for importation including TAPI gas as well as LNG. Though Turkmenistan has offered half of the gas volume that Iran offers at 9% lower price than the Iranian gas but that is not even enough to cover the transit fees to Afghanistan. So at the end the TAPI gas is going to be higher priced than the Iranian gas. Even the Baluchistan government has already agreed that all land required for the transmission of this pipeline will be given for free and thus not even inter-provincial royalty will be paid for the Iran pipe line. For TAPI Afghanistan will never give free pass.
2- Iranian pipeline is going to deliver over 16 billion cubic meters of gas each year only to Pakistan while TAPI can only carry under 10 billion cubic meters of gas per year and some of that even has to be given to Afghanistan and India to be exact over half of it. Both are high pressure underground pipelines placed some 3 or 4 meters underground but by comparison Iran gas pipe line delivers more gas and only to Pakistan.
3- TAPI passes over mountainous regions of Afghanistan and crossed the whole country from north to South. No feasibility studies have ever been done on it. The pipe line has to literally go up and down thousands of mountains. Not even a single engineering study has been done on it. Not even a single meter of it been built. In contrast, the Iran pipe line has been half built and only the Pakistan portion of it remains and its feasibility is proven. It travels over flat land and its geography is simple. So the Iran pipe can be built quicker and with less money.
4- TAPI passes over Afghanistan a region that has not seen peace since the time of Alexander. The pipeline will be periodically hit with traditionally weak Afghan governments unable even to repair it on time. The mountains and harsh weather specially in winter will make the access to repair the pipe ever more difficult. The warlords will have to be bribed from time to time and all kinds of security related issues will make the pipe line fail in its first months. The gas can not be stored and its reliable transmission is vital. Whenever the pipe line explodes in Afghanistan the whole of Pakistan will come to a standstill. With all Indian consulates in Afghanistan the pipe line will turn out to be a monster for Pakistan economy.
5- Pakistan will have to depend on importation of gas and oil since local resources are not going to be enough for our growing population already at 190 million which is to become 360 million by 2050. We will have to import them and that is the only way just like Europe imports them. Iranian option is safe. The life of pipeline is estimated to be over 50 years and Iran has plenty of gas to supply Pakistan through all those 50 years. This can not be said about TAPI.
6- Saudi offer is meaningless. They have offered a "Loan" and an oil delayed payment facility. That is very "generous" of them. Oil is extremely expensive in relation to gas. Infact we are suffering load shedding here because our thermal power plants run on oil they can not afford. So just delaying the payment for 3 months and a paltry loan with hefty interests to be paid by our children is hardly wisdom. We already have enough loans. What we need is a long term solution and that is the Iran pipe line. The Saudi offer is a joke at best. If they were serious they should have offered one and half million barrel of oil delivered to Pakistan for the price of natural gas through pipe line for the next 50 years. Then that would be equal to the amount of energy the Iran gas pipe line carries for the same price for the same duration. Alas, Saudis have joked with us with their offer.
7-Turkemenistan already has China gas projects and does not need Pakistan for them since Pakistan is not in the middle geographically. One good thing about the Iran gas pipe line is that if we extend it to China then there will more cooperation between Pakistan, Iran and China. With TAPI we will have to cooperate with Afghan war lords and Indian politicians. So TAPI is a fail.
8- Natural gas is the future of Pakistan. We are an agri country needing fertilizers which use natural gas as feed stock. The whole of Pakistan's agriculture is fed by natural gas. We need gas for our industries such as cement, steel and textiles. We need gas for cooking and heating homes. And we need gas to run cheap electricity power plants for cheap electricity. Not only that but increasingly our national transport is also becoming reliant on natural gas with Pakistan having the largest number of CNG green vehicles around the world since it is cheaper to run cars and buses on natural gas than on oil. Some comparisons below:
Natural gas transmission costs:
Comparison of electricity generation by different methods:
At the end I must say that without this pipe line our economy will suffer beyond belief and our people will have to start cooking on wood. This pipe line is a strategic level stuff for our country. Not even US or KSA should be allowed to mess with it. It is time we start to tell our true friends from not so true friends.
That statement simply cracked me up !!! Tell that to your erstwhile Commando who shivered in fright and pissed in his pants with a single phone-call the result of which is the sheer amount of diwalis seen in FATA and the weekly violations by them mighty ababeels.
