Saudi Arabia has paid $500M toward the cost of US troops in country

[Ritual]

Didn’t Trump also say ‘they pay cash I can’t refuse them’ or something similar? He has said this many times and there is never any denial from Saudi authorities...if it wasn’t true why not just refute it?

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-curious-defense-deploying-more-troops-saudi-arabia/amp

"The relationship has been very good. And they buy hundreds of billions of dollars' worth of merchandise from us, not only military equipment. In military equipment, about $110 billion. It's millions of jobs.

"Now, with that being said, we are sending troops and other things to the Middle East to help Saudi Arabia. But are you ready? Saudi Arabia, at my request, has agreed to pay us for everything we're doing. That's a first. But Saudi Arabia -- and other countries, too, now -- but Saudi Arabia has agreed to pay us for everything we're doing to help them. And we appreciate that."

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

Didn’t Trump also say ‘they pay cash I can’t refuse them’ or something similar? He has said this many times and there is never any denial from Saudi authorities...if it wasn’t true why not just refute it?

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trumps-curious-defense-deploying-more-troops-saudi-arabia/amp

"The relationship has been very good. And they buy hundreds of billions of dollars' worth of merchandise from us, not only military equipment. In military equipment, about $110 billion. It's millions of jobs.

"Now, with that being said, we are sending troops and other things to the Middle East to help Saudi Arabia. But are you ready? Saudi Arabia, at my request, has agreed to pay us for everything we're doing. That's a first. But Saudi Arabia -- and other countries, too, now -- but Saudi Arabia has agreed to pay us for everything we're doing to help them. And we appreciate that."

May I ask why you care what KSA and the US is doing? You live in the UK. A country that hosts 1000 times more (if that can do it) US soldiers and actual US bases and I assume that you are paying taxes as well (unlike people in KSA) that go directly to NATO and indirectly to the US military.

The US has never attacked KSA once. Never violated our sovereignity, never droned our people in KSA, 100.000’s of Americans have helped build our country while contributing, similarly more than 1 million Saudi Arabians have lived, studied, worked and contributed to the US from NASA employees, to engineers, to doctors, lawyers to business owners to ordinary workers and once students like me taking a part of our education at US universities. With a large successful diaspora being present. This is a mutually beneficial relationship and the US, as the superpower it is, would have dumped KSA ages ago if it was some unimportant banana republic. On the contrary the relationship predates NATO and has been going strong regardless of President and King in power or party.

Similarly KSA has had a trade surplus for 40 years in a row with the US and for starters it makes sense to have cordial ties with the world’s foremost superpower.

I don’t understand the obsession that people not from KSA nor USA have about this relationship. People in KSA, vast majority, are happy that we are not another North Korea, Syria, Cuba or Iran.

BTW Trump is a serial liar this should not really come as a surprise should it?

Despite Trump's claims, Saudi Arabia does not appear to have paid $1 billion to house US troops

Saudi Arabia does not appear to have paid the $1 billion that President Donald Trump said it has paid to house a deployment of US troops to the kingdom, according to the Pentagon.

Trump had previously touted Saudi Arabia's financial contribution, telling Fox News last week, "I said, listen, you're a very rich country. You want more troops? I'm going to send them to you, but you've got to pay us. They're paying us. They've already deposited $1 billion in the bank."
But the Pentagon says discussions about how Saudi Arabia can help pay for the cost of the US military deployment there are ongoing.
"The Saudi government has agreed to contribute to the costs of these activities, and discussions are ongoing to formalize these contributions. Contributions of this nature do not lead to the deployment of additional U.S. forces, and they do not drive DOD to take on new missions or responsibilities," Pentagon spokesperson Cmdr. Rebecca Rebarich told CNN in a statement.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/14/politics/us-troops-saudi-arabia/index.html

 

[-SINAN-]

Isn't it spamming against the forum rule, take a look at @MMM-E, does he ever contribute anything other than spamming and trolling, how is he keep getting away while polluting every thread with his nonsense.

However as we know, PDF mods love his kind. Controversial member, although he types non-sense, he trrigers people to respond him, so more posts, more traffic for the site, more money.

 

[dBSPL]

Saudi Arabia pays $500m to host US troops in kingdom
Payment is 'first contribution' in burden-sharing partnership, Pentagon spokeswoman tells MEE

US soldiers salute during welcome-home ceremony after returning from Iraq (AFP)

By Sheren Khalel Washington, DC | Last update: 11 hours 30 min ago

Saudi Arabia paid the United States $500m last month to cover part of the cost of US troops stationed in the kingdom, a US official said, as bilateral talks over defence expenses continue.

Commander Rebecca Rebarich, a Pentagon spokeswoman, told Middle East Eye that the payment was "the first contribution" in a burden-sharing partnership between the US and Saudi Arabia to support regional security.

"In response to elevated threats in the Middle East over the past eight months, the Department of Defense has deployed US military forces to the region to enhance US defences and augment Saudi air and missile defence of critical military and civilian infrastructure," Rebarich said on Friday.

"The Saudi government has agreed to help underwrite the cost of these activities and has made the first contribution," she said.

US President Donald Trump said in an interview with Fox News last week that Saudi Arabia had "already deposited $1 billion in the bank".

Saudi payments to the US to offset military costs are not new. During the six-month Gulf War of the 90s, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other Gulf states paid the United States $36bn.

The US also charged the kingdom $331m for the cost of aerial refuelling operations that the US military provided to Saudi warplanes carrying out air strikes in Yemen.

Only part of that payment has been collected, but the US, at Riyadh's request, stopped providing aerial refuelling to Saudi jets operating in Yemen in November 2018.

"Consistent with the president’s guidance to increase partner burden-sharing, the Department of Defense has engaged Saudi Arabia on sharing the cost of these deployments, which support regional security and dissuade hostility and aggression," Rebarich said.

It is not yet clear how much Saudi Arabia will be expected to pay for the US's increased presence in the region, as tensions between Washington and Tehran leave the Gulf in a precarious situation.

Bilateral talks to determine that amount are ongoing, Rebarich said, adding that the aim is to formalise a mechanism that will determine the scope of future payments to cover some of the costs of US troop build-up.

"Discussions are ongoing to formalise a mechanism for future contributions that offset the cost of these deployments," Rebarich said.

"Future contributions will not lead to the deployment of additional US forces nor drive DoD to take on new missions or responsibilities," Rebarich said, using an acronym for the Department of Defense.

Regional tensions
Tensions in the Gulf have steadily increased since the US pulled out of a multilateral nuclear deal with Iran in May 2018.

Thousands of additional US troops and weapons have been sent to Saudi Arabia in recent months, as Pentagon officials point to what they say is an increased threat from Iran.

Attacks on Saudi Arabia's Abqaiq and the Khurais oil plants in September caused a spike in oil prices and disrupted more than 5 percent of global oil supply. The US, along with European countries and Saudi Arabia, blamed Iran for the attacks, but Tehran denied any involvement.

After the attacks, the US sent about 3,000 additional troops to Saudi Arabia, including fighter squadrons, an air expeditionary wing and air defense personnel.

It also sent two more Patriot missile defense battalions, which cost around $1bn each, a Terminal High-Altitude Air Defense (THAAD) system and advanced American radar systems.

The animosity has only increased since the US killed Qassem Soleimani, Iran's top general and one of the country's most powerful figures.

Following the assassination, Washington sent another 3,000 soldiers to different locations in the Middle East as a precaution amid rising threats to American forces in the region.

Several days after Soleimani's death, Iran launched more than a dozen missiles at two Iraqi military bases housing US troops. No casualties were reported in the reprisals.

The exchange brought the two countries to the brink of war, but they have so far declined to escalate further.

Saudi Arabia is the biggest global buyer of US weapons, with its total military spending far surpassing the amount spent by any other country in the region.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/saudi-arabia-pays-us-500m-offset-costs-us-troops-region-pentagon

 

[The Eagle]

Never accuse others for no reasons but self projection. You have issues with posting of other member; reach GHQ Section with proofs or references to the posts that violates forum rule and we will check-out. But on other hand, if you are taking the freedom of speech for granted by accusing Mod(s); I am sure the next thing will be an action taken accordingly. Such open tirades needs to stop here and immediately.

Regards,

 

[Ritual]

May I ask why you care what KSA and the US is doing? You live in the UK. A country that hosts 1000 times more (if that can do it) US soldiers and actual US bases and I assume that you are paying taxes as well (unlike people in KSA) that go directly to NATO and indirectly to the US military.

The US has never attacked KSA once. Never violated our sovereignity, never droned our people in KSA, 100.000’s of Americans have helped build our country while contributing, similarly more than 1 million Saudi Arabians have lived, studied, worked and contributed to the US from NASA employees, to engineers, to doctors, lawyers to business owners to ordinary workers and once students like me taking a part of our education at US universities. With a large successful diaspora being present. This is a mutually beneficial relationship and the US, as the superpower it is, would have dumped KSA ages ago if it was some unimportant banana republic. On the contrary the relationship predates NATO and has been going strong regardless of President and King in power or party.

Similarly KSA has had a trade surplus for 40 years in a row with the US and for starters it makes sense to have cordial ties with the world’s foremost superpower.

I don’t understand the obsession that people not from KSA nor USA have about this relationship. People in KSA, vast majority, are happy that we are not another North Korea, Syria, Cuba or Iran.

BTW Trump is a serial liar this should not really come as a surprise should it?

Despite Trump's claims, Saudi Arabia does not appear to have paid $1 billion to house US troops

Saudi Arabia does not appear to have paid the $1 billion that President Donald Trump said it has paid to house a deployment of US troops to the kingdom, according to the Pentagon.

Trump had previously touted Saudi Arabia's financial contribution, telling Fox News last week, "I said, listen, you're a very rich country. You want more troops? I'm going to send them to you, but you've got to pay us. They're paying us. They've already deposited $1 billion in the bank."
But the Pentagon says discussions about how Saudi Arabia can help pay for the cost of the US military deployment there are ongoing.
"The Saudi government has agreed to contribute to the costs of these activities, and discussions are ongoing to formalize these contributions. Contributions of this nature do not lead to the deployment of additional U.S. forces, and they do not drive DOD to take on new missions or responsibilities," Pentagon spokesperson Cmdr. Rebecca Rebarich told CNN in a statement.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/14/politics/us-troops-saudi-arabia/index.html

I suppose one cares in the same way many others care to comment on Israel, Iran etc when they aren’t resident in those countries either. Just because someone isn’t Saudi doesn’t mean we can’t analyse the Saudi-West relationship. The US considers your oil and location as its interest and as others have posted even France is sending troops there. Unfortunately until Saudi-US relations reverberate and affect surrounding countries it’ll continue to be a problem.

The post 1970s petrodollar system is the one thing that keeps the US war machine running.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/feat...s-41-year-u-s-debt-secret?utm_source=url_link

 

[Timur]

Just because someone isn’t Saudi doesn’t mean we can’t analyse the Saudi-West relationship.

he didnt grow up in a free country with free expression of yourself and with values like freedom of speech.. he simply does not understand many of these things.. dont bother him this lack of understanding is quadrubled with an inferior complex and and an worldview that others should be his slave.. if he runs out of options he reapeat curses until his fingers gets wound..

uuups I opened the box of pandora now - enjoy

 

[aziqbal]

Does anyone else expect these stupid camels to do anything different?

Arabs are only good at killing each other in large numbers

 

[Max]

Ransom/protection money paid from the pocket of ordinary Arab.

 

[zartosht]

whats amazing is how openly Trump belittles and humiliates the Saudis... do Saudis really have no dignity or self respect? how can anybody be so be-gheirat?

 

[Baybars Han]

So what? It was in the interests of KSA to remove a hostile actor from Kuwait. All parties won economically, militarily and economically.

What are you blabbering about? No Saudi Arabian ship was attacked.

What are you blabbering about again my Indian friend? We are partners and there is nothing to thank for. The Gulf War was about Kuwait and was a joint operation that would not have went as smoothly without KSA involvement.

And once again events 30 years ago are irrelevant and no longer relevant. Hence the 1250 example.

KSA and the US relationship is doing fine for now. We will see what the future will bring but recent developments are clear, KSA is looking more and more towards China (our largest trade partner and key strategic military ally), Russia, Europe, Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, Pakistan, Arab world etc.

However I predict that ties will remain close, KSA is far too important for the US to lose it and vice versa.



It seems that you have problems with comprehending English. Let me refresh your memory again.

“Earlier this week the Pentagon could not confirm that any payment had been made.”

The KSA-USA relationship is that of equals. KSA has had a large trade surplus with the US each year in the past 40 years. The US has hosted over 1 million Saudi Arabian residents in the past 30 years. Leading US firms are present in KSA and vice versa. KSA has huge stocks in leading US firms, property and there is ever growing ToT on numerous fields such as technology, military, science etc. Counter-terrorism and intelligence is another important field of cooperation.

Anyway this is ironic coming from a user that flags a country flag (Turkey) that hosts a US base, pays 2.5% of its GDP annually to NATO (another name for the US which runs this club) and which owes its entire existence after WW2 to the US for saving it from becoming a USSR republic or satelite state.

We all remember Brunson, Gulen sitting nicely in the US, open support to SDA and YPG next to the Turkish border and the crippling US sanctions that ruined the vulnerable Turkish economy overnight.

On the other hand we all saw how KSA handled 9/11, Kashhoggi etc. in comparison. Or even our deal with Russia on the S400 with the Americans being quite. Or our strategic relationship with China. List is very long.

Anyway no point discussing with kids.

İncirlik is not a US base, its a Turkish airbase that US uses at times, and that has been reduced as they use other bases now. We done what we can against US supporting ypg, we too we can't declare war against USA.

They are quiet because you serve their interests, they don't mind staying quiet for little things if you are their vassal.

 

[Baybars Han]

Nobody even knows much or supports MB in Turkey even AKP supporters but they are blinded as he owns all the media.

Nice to have some of the old users back. Sadly almost all old Arab users have left and there are very few of us left. Most of us just ude PDF to keep in touch with some of the old guard, vent out a bit due to the nature of PDF, some very rare serious discussions and rest is just PDF trolling. Same old, as in this thread.

I hope so for the sake of both parties, as nobody is benefitting from it and anyone who understands the Arab psyche will know that negative foreign meddling is looked at very negatively outside of the blindly religious lot whose numbers are decreasing and who have no real political say any longer. We all saw/see what is going on in Shia Arab heartlands in Iraq and Lebanon and the massive anti-Iran and anti-Shia clergy/regime protests.

As an non-Arab leader, I would never try to meddle politically in the Arab world as it is fruitless and will give you many more problems than positives. Would limit the cooperation to economic relations and people to people relations. Anything else than such type of meddling. The US and USSR tried the same during the Cold War as the foremost powers of the world and it was largely a fiasco for them too.

Anyway it is unfortunate as it is not needed but on the other hand you have really close ties with Qatar. Very strange to think that such a small country, yet very rich one, is Turkey’s strongest ally in the Arab world. Geopolitically it makes little sense but the MB project explains it all. I don’t know if the Turkish people support this policy or are hostile towards us Arabs but I can tell you honestly that there is no Arab hostility towards Turkish people. I am here talking about in general as I know that you have individual Arabs who do not like Turks and individual Turks who do not like Arabs.

But who can replace Erdogan? Almost every Turk is telling me that Erdogan is the best of the worst and that the opposition is very bad? Maybe a more pragmatic and more nationalistic leader is needed? This is something that the Turkish public will have to decide themselves obviously.



You still mad bro about the dangerous Arab that is out there to kill you? Sand empire? The Arab world has every type of landscape imaginable outside of artic landscapes. We have mountanious areas the size of the US almost. Deserts are incredibly beautiful and there are tons of deserts in the US as well, some world famous tourist attractions like in the Arab world. I don’t know if you are aware of it but neither desert nor sand is an insult for us Arabs, lol.

Al Disah Valley in KSA:

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Same Tabuk region in KSA

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USA grand Canyon

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Death Valley USA, hottest place on Earth

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Get out of your ghetto apartment dawg and enjoy some nature, MacDonalds is not nature BTW.

 

[bsruzm]

The US has never attacked KSA once. Never violated our sovereignity, never droned our people in KSA,

It isn't some tribal success.

 

[LeGenD]

Hallucinating again? How about you write sources to substantiate your nonsense. On a daily basis 1000’s of Saudi Arabian container ships, oil tankers, vessels, fishing boats, commercial boats and military ones are sailing and navigating in our waters and the neighbourhood, some of the most important and busy shopping trade roots on the planet. PDF is reaching new lows.

I think he was referring to this incident: https://missiledefenseadvocacy.org/alert/12685/

Yemeni Houthi rebels decided to attack Saudi and Emirati ships near Yemeni coasts with cruise missiles in 2016. They used a C-802 variant to destroy an Emirati HSV-2 Swift as a first. At this point, Saudi and Emirati ships stopped sailing near Yemeni waters and USN intervened to degrade Yemeni Houthi capability to threaten shipping activity near its coasts.

 

[-SINAN-]

I have more worldwide military knowledge than you ... I have over 120.000 subscribes in youtube

Keep saying that to yourself. All i see is copy/paste in your posts. No analysis, no comparison, nothing, just copy-paste.

what about you ? nothing ....

Yeah, i have no youtube channel so my military knowledge must be nothing.

Arab haters so-called secular Turks ( in reality they are immigrants from Balkans or Caucasia ) were become as Arab lovers nowadays .. because of Arab dictators were become enemies to Erdogan

those so-called secular Turks so hate Arab refugees in Turkey .... on the other hand Erdogan saved millions of Syrian and Iraqi Arabs from being slaughtered

First of all, what is a "secular Turk"? Secularism is the seperation of religion from the state. It's not an adjective for people but for state.
Secondly, i'm not "lover" of other nations, i only love Turkey and concerned for it's interests, nothing more.

All of you are so ignorant and know nothing about military and politics .... I have evidence and source for every discussion

Talk is cheap, where are your source?

on the other hand ignorant guys with their lies and their personal attacks on me

You are just random internet dude, don't take yourself for serious.

also you are always attacking President Erdogan and his supporters , nothing else

How come, i was inactive for at least a year???

Ignorant guy says , Erdogan's Turkey has problems with all Arab countries

I never said that.

full of lies and anti Erdogan propaganda

Look above and see who is lying.

I am saying again there was never very good relations with Syria
even in 1999 ( before Erdogan ) Turkey almost declared war on Syria because of Leader of PKK ( OCALAN ) lived in Damascus until 1999

Like i said before, what you are saying is not important before facts. Let me give you some facts.

Assad and Erdogan were having holidays together in Bodrum.
https://www.dunyabulteni.net/arsiv/suriye-devlet-baskani-esad-bodrumda-h49325.html
http://arsiv.sabah.com.tr/2008/08/05/haber,DB0E72E7C9D9499282F9F7A469245544.html

as of 2020 , Turkey has no problem with Iraq , Qatar , Jordan , Kuwait , Algeria , Marocco , Tunis , Yemen , Lebanon , Palestine

Most of those countries are under the sphere of influence of Saudi-Egypt-UAE
That's why they all together condemn Turkey's action.
https://www.voanews.com/middle-east/arab-league-condemns-turkeys-syria-incursion-calls-un-action

-- the US-Israel made a military coup in Egypt to destroy alliance between Turkey and Egypt
-- same senario in Libya , CIA lapdog HAFTAR attack the UN recognized legal Libyan Government to make a military coup to destroy alliance between Turkey and Libya

This is your personal opinion...for example where is the source?

the Uae and S.Arabia are always anti Turk .... They were allies with christian British to destroy the Ottoman Empire and today the Uae and S.Arabia are allies with the US and Israel against Turkey

If they were always anti-Turk, why Erdogan supported Saudi Arabia's Yemen operation?
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/politics/erdogan-turkey-supports-saudi-led-mission-in-yemen/63257

Erdogan even offered intelligence and logistics supports to Saudi Arabia.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tu...gistics-to-saudi-led-operation-in-yemen-80246

and what about around 2 million Russian-Jewish population in Israel ? in reality they are Khazar Turks ... read Arthur Koestler ( The Thirteenth Tribe )

and Europedia says that Ottoman Dynasty and Israeli Prime minister NETAHYAHU have same blood DNA haplogroup R1aZ93

and American genetic scientists says P-M45 ( proto Turkic Peoples ) is ancestor of haplogroups R and Q

More copy paste material, more over genetics are a highly controversial area, don't go in there with your limited knowledge.

so you are nothing and your opinions really don't matter ...

Yeah, right...