Sanctioning Pakistan can backfire, US lawmakers warned

[Umair Nawaz]

Gentleman! I have control only on my words and not on your understanding/interpretation of it. I cant help it if you let the truth hurt your pride. For all I know I never use abusive words against anyone.


Harms are mostly intangibles as of now. You will realize if much later.
And with regards to R&AW agent can you tell me what was the reply of Iranian govt. to your complain and concerns?
See what pakistani media reported about Iran's reaction.
http://www.dawn.com/news/1249073

good, dont come our forums to discuss matters with us then...now buzz off.

 

[Zee-shaun]

Thats how Pakistan thinks. Worldwide a political movement loses its global support if it resorts to violence/terror. A terror outfit can never be an asset for anyone. Remember Hillary Clinton saying that you cant breed snakes in your backyard and expect them to bite only the neighbours.

Hilary also said:

Sanctioning Pakistan would be a bigger mistake now than after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

 

[Razia Sultana]

good, dont come our forums to discuss matters with us then...now buzz off.

Its a global public forum, you cant stop anyone. If possible, block me or get me blocked if you can. Threats dont work on me, I am governed by my conscience.
PS: please read my signature statement.

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Its a global public forum, you cant stop anyone. If possible, block me or get me blocked if you can. Threats dont work on me, I am governed by my conscience.
PS: please read my signature statement.

Aha some mods please tell this idiot.

 

[Mrc]

good, dont come our forums to discuss matters with us then...now buzz off.

U know its a hindu male pretending to be a muslim female?

Good taliban and then attack Pentagon?

This one is high

 

[Umair Nawaz]

U know its a hindu male pretending to be a muslim female?




This one is high

is it? i didnt know that.

 

[Razia Sultana]

Hilary also said:

Sanctioning Pakistan would be a bigger mistake now than after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Nice video clip. She admits her own statement on breeding snakes, although the US did not breed snakes in its neighbourhood but it was bitten by the same snakes.

I agree with your statement that sanctioning Pakistan will be a big mistake.

 

[Mrc]

is it? i didnt know that.

My suspicion

 

[ekhindustani]

kicking Indians @$$ with that funding through Zarb-e-Azb mission.

^^^^^^ there

 

[Zee-shaun]

Nice video clip. She admits her own statement on breeding snakes, although the US did not breed snakes in its neighbourhood but it was bitten by the same snakes.

I agree with your statement that sanctioning Pakistan will be a big mistake.

That is an subjective interpretation of what she said. US allowed to bring in criminals from all over the world to fight the jihad against the soviets and let the Saudis export their version of islam, the wahabism and more. These are the snakes brought to us by the US and guess what, they got bitten and started blaming us as usual.

 

[kabooter_maila]

Sanctioning Pakistan can backfire, US lawmakers warned
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WASHINGTON: United States lawmakers were warned at a congressional hearing that sanctioning Pakistan or declaring it a state sponsor of terrorism could backfire.

A transcript released on Sunday shows a lively debate on the issue at the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which held a hearing on US-Pakistan relations.

In his opening statement, the committee’s chairman Senator Bob Corker expressed frustration with Pakistan’s alleged lack of cooperation in defeating militant groups still active in neighbouring Afghanistan.

Editorial: US blame game against Pakistan betrays directionless Afghan policy

Senator Corker, a Republican, and Senator Ben Cardin, the ranking Democrat on the committee, also asked the witnesses to explain what measures US policymakers could take to make Pakistan cooperate.

“In order to justify major policy shifts like eliminating aid, labelling Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism, or enacting sanctions, US policymakers should be able to explain how such actions would make America’s strategic predicament better,” said one of the witnesses, Prof Daniel Markey of the Johns Hopkins University.

“They would need to consider the possibility that coercion could backfire, raising tensions and making Islamabad less willing or able to advance any constructive agenda.”

Mr Markey said that the next US president could take “a far more coercive approach” with Pakistan than the outgoing president, Barack Obama.

“But I think given the likely cost and benefits I expect we are more likely to reduce and restructure assistance to Pakistan than to end it all together,” he added. And in the process, the US should find ways to more clearly “link our ends with our means” and also to impose appropriate conditions in ways that more Pakistanis and Americans will actually understand.

Toby Dalton, a co-director of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, explained that there was a vast difference between what the US should and could do.

“Ideally, the United States and others should seek ways to convince Pakistan to flatten the growth curve of its nuclear programme. The honest assessment is, however, that since Pakistan embarked on a nuclear weapons programme, very little the US has tried, whether sanctions or inducements, has had an appreciable impact,” he said.

Robert L. Grenier, a former station manager in Islamabad of the US Central Intelligence Agency, told the committee that in 1993 and 1994 Pakistan “came within a hairsbreadth of ending up as a formal member of the list of state sponsors of terrorism” but US national interests prevented Washington from doing so.

Senator Corker recalled that in May this year, the Senate put a hold on allowing Pakistan to use US funds for buying F-16 aircraft, “which I think is appropriate”.

The senator said the US government and lawmakers were all “becoming more and more frustrated” with their relationship with Pakistan.

He claimed that the Afghan militant Haqqani network’s leaders had been living in Pakistan and the Pakistani government knew where they lived but would not cooperate with US efforts to eliminate them.

“What in essence has happened is, where we used to be able to take them out (using drones) in the Fata areas, now that they’re living in the suburban areas, we cannot do that.”

Senator Cardin noted that banning Pakistan from using US funds to buy F-16s was very complicated. “There were many factors engaged in our discussions. And quite frankly, we didn’t think we had all the information we needed,” he said.

He noted that Pakistan was a strategic partner in the war against terrorism but the US still had major concerns about that relationship, “as they seem to be very selective in fighting terrorism”.

He noted that the US had used “conditionality of aid” in the past as well but it was not very effective.

“So the question is how can we use our tools more effectively to change the behaviour in Pakistan? Is there a better way of doing this?” Senator Cardin asked.

“If money is not the answer (then what is)?” asked Senator David Perdue, a Republican from Georgia, noting that all three witnesses agreed that engagement with Pakistan was still purposeful.

Senator Perdue noted that out of $19 billion provided to Pakistan since Sept 11, 2001, only $8bn were actually for security efforts, while $11bn were for humanitarian purposes.

“So, let’s put in perspective. It’s not like this is a major battleground for us in terms of money. But on the other hand, I don’t know what they’re going to do given that we’re cutting off $300 million or half of the money that we would normally be sending them this year,” the senator said.

Prof Markey said that US assistance to Pakistan should be divided into three categories:

“Category one, things where they want and we want. Category two, we and they want similar things but they want to do it differently than we think is right. Category three, areas where we want to tell them what we think they should do and we believe they are not doing.”

“We hold out resources as inducements with limited expectations that those things will change but demonstrating that we are willing and eager to be partners with them, thereby not closing doors over the long run but not delivering assistance for things that they don’t do,” said Mr Markey while explaining how the US should use its assistance to get the required results.

“We’ve been in for so many years where we provide them with broad assistance which is not accounted for in a very tactical way and somehow expecting that we can use that as a tool, as a lever, to get them to change aspects of their behaviour that, frankly, they simply are not going to change,” said Mr Grenier.

Published in Dawn September 12th, 2016


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“…expressed frustration with Pakistan’s alleged lack of cooperation in defeating militant groups still active in neighbouring Afghanistan.” That is the real pain in their neck. Americans are not complaining about any fighters active in FATA because Pak military’s recent operation has wiped out all previously active militant groups in FATA. What they actually want Pakistan to do is to help them killing Afghans (militants or non-militants) so that they could get an effective control over our neighboring country. Pakistan has never done that before and will never do that in future. Rather Pakistan has always helped Afghans in fighting foreign invaders and protecting their freedom. I don’t think any sanctions would force Pakistan to change its core policy. Afghans are our neighbors. We have to live with them forever. Unlike Indians, who have always supported foreign occupation of Afghanistan and actively involved in Afghan bloodshed and genocide, Pakistan has supported the Afghan people in the past and would always be standing with them in future to protect and safeguard the geographic integrity of Afghanistan. That policy stems out from the historical fact that all the past invaders have always proceeded to attack the area that is now known as Pakistan after they achieved effective control of Afghanistan.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

stop watch Ar0b Goswami's programs kid. The Afghanistan of 90s is the future of india inshallah since narendra modi and ajit doval r doing that perfectly.

Our future lies on CPEC and transit economy and regional trade which we r doing perfectly and still are 26th largest economy. American sanctions AIDE isnt something we depend on which is just peanuts in comparison.

Who told that you are 26th largest economy?? Where you have read it? Lol

 

[Zee-shaun]

Who told that you are 26th largest economy?? Where you have read it? Lol

On PPP scale, Pakistan comes at the 26th place with a trillion dollar GDP.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

On PPP scale, Pakistan comes at the 26th place with a trillion dollar GDP.

PPP is not a real term to scale GDP. Its matter but less. I'm talking about nominal GDP which is the real scale.

 

[Super Falcon]

Sanctioning Pakistan can backfire, US lawmakers warned
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WASHINGTON: United States lawmakers were warned at a congressional hearing that sanctioning Pakistan or declaring it a state sponsor of terrorism could backfire.

A transcript released on Sunday shows a lively debate on the issue at the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which held a hearing on US-Pakistan relations.

In his opening statement, the committee’s chairman Senator Bob Corker expressed frustration with Pakistan’s alleged lack of cooperation in defeating militant groups still active in neighbouring Afghanistan.

Editorial: US blame game against Pakistan betrays directionless Afghan policy

Senator Corker, a Republican, and Senator Ben Cardin, the ranking Democrat on the committee, also asked the witnesses to explain what measures US policymakers could take to make Pakistan cooperate.

“In order to justify major policy shifts like eliminating aid, labelling Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism, or enacting sanctions, US policymakers should be able to explain how such actions would make America’s strategic predicament better,” said one of the witnesses, Prof Daniel Markey of the Johns Hopkins University.

“They would need to consider the possibility that coercion could backfire, raising tensions and making Islamabad less willing or able to advance any constructive agenda.”

Mr Markey said that the next US president could take “a far more coercive approach” with Pakistan than the outgoing president, Barack Obama.

“But I think given the likely cost and benefits I expect we are more likely to reduce and restructure assistance to Pakistan than to end it all together,” he added. And in the process, the US should find ways to more clearly “link our ends with our means” and also to impose appropriate conditions in ways that more Pakistanis and Americans will actually understand.

Toby Dalton, a co-director of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, explained that there was a vast difference between what the US should and could do.

“Ideally, the United States and others should seek ways to convince Pakistan to flatten the growth curve of its nuclear programme. The honest assessment is, however, that since Pakistan embarked on a nuclear weapons programme, very little the US has tried, whether sanctions or inducements, has had an appreciable impact,” he said.

Robert L. Grenier, a former station manager in Islamabad of the US Central Intelligence Agency, told the committee that in 1993 and 1994 Pakistan “came within a hairsbreadth of ending up as a formal member of the list of state sponsors of terrorism” but US national interests prevented Washington from doing so.

Senator Corker recalled that in May this year, the Senate put a hold on allowing Pakistan to use US funds for buying F-16 aircraft, “which I think is appropriate”.

The senator said the US government and lawmakers were all “becoming more and more frustrated” with their relationship with Pakistan.

He claimed that the Afghan militant Haqqani network’s leaders had been living in Pakistan and the Pakistani government knew where they lived but would not cooperate with US efforts to eliminate them.

“What in essence has happened is, where we used to be able to take them out (using drones) in the Fata areas, now that they’re living in the suburban areas, we cannot do that.”

Senator Cardin noted that banning Pakistan from using US funds to buy F-16s was very complicated. “There were many factors engaged in our discussions. And quite frankly, we didn’t think we had all the information we needed,” he said.

He noted that Pakistan was a strategic partner in the war against terrorism but the US still had major concerns about that relationship, “as they seem to be very selective in fighting terrorism”.

He noted that the US had used “conditionality of aid” in the past as well but it was not very effective.

“So the question is how can we use our tools more effectively to change the behaviour in Pakistan? Is there a better way of doing this?” Senator Cardin asked.

“If money is not the answer (then what is)?” asked Senator David Perdue, a Republican from Georgia, noting that all three witnesses agreed that engagement with Pakistan was still purposeful.

Senator Perdue noted that out of $19 billion provided to Pakistan since Sept 11, 2001, only $8bn were actually for security efforts, while $11bn were for humanitarian purposes.

“So, let’s put in perspective. It’s not like this is a major battleground for us in terms of money. But on the other hand, I don’t know what they’re going to do given that we’re cutting off $300 million or half of the money that we would normally be sending them this year,” the senator said.

Prof Markey said that US assistance to Pakistan should be divided into three categories:

“Category one, things where they want and we want. Category two, we and they want similar things but they want to do it differently than we think is right. Category three, areas where we want to tell them what we think they should do and we believe they are not doing.”

“We hold out resources as inducements with limited expectations that those things will change but demonstrating that we are willing and eager to be partners with them, thereby not closing doors over the long run but not delivering assistance for things that they don’t do,” said Mr Markey while explaining how the US should use its assistance to get the required results.

“We’ve been in for so many years where we provide them with broad assistance which is not accounted for in a very tactical way and somehow expecting that we can use that as a tool, as a lever, to get them to change aspects of their behaviour that, frankly, they simply are not going to change,” said Mr Grenier.

Published in Dawn September 12th, 2016


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Why USA don't ask india first stop her financial terrorism in Pakistan