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Sanam chuadhry quits acting to follow a religious path

1. "Soviet invasion" : What would you call the Russian intervention in Syria in support of the Assad government and what would you call the invasion of Syria by tens of thousands of transnational criminals trained, funded, armed and politically support the Western governments ?

2. "Bloody takeover of government" : And what did the anti-Gaddafi forces do in Libya in 2011 and are trying to do in Syria for the last ten year ?

3. "Religious people" : What did Pakistan Army do with TTP ?

4. "Threw many off planes" : Look at what your Western-supported Capitalist rulers did in Argentina and Chile :






"Mujahideen" : LOL fighters for "Islam" supported by Western Crusader governments and atheist Chinese government.

Aaah the typical diversion by a terrorist commie! Instead of discussing what your terrorist commie brothers did in Afghanistan and the origin of that bloody movement being 'women's rights', you come up with the above BS! Logic is out of the window Mr Commie Terrorist, eh?

It's a hard pill for you to swallow knowing that Mujahideen were a creation as a reaction to the terrorism by your commie brothers!!

Mujahideen made huge blunders after the exit of Soviets by fighting each other. Taliban of past were mainly made up of 'yateem' children and damned Deobandi sect influence so they made blunders as well. Hopefully they won't repeat the mistakes of past now. General amnesty they've given is a huge act, something that terrorist commie brothers wouldn't have even thought of (instead these so called liberal 'women's rights' preaching commies started genocide of those who didn't agree with their ideology).

You are a waiting to burst out terrorist commie just like your commie terrorist brothers in Afghanistan. You hate religious people and if you had the absolute power, you'd commit genocide just like your brothers.
 
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and the origin of that bloody movement being 'women's rights'

What about women's rights ? Didn't Islam bring it ? Why are you scared of reasonable women's rights ?

Taliban of past were mainly made up of 'yateem' children and damned Deobandi sect influence so they made blunders as well.

And who arranged for those yateem children to be corrupted by the Deobandis ?

Hopefully they won't repeat the mistakes of past now. General amnesty they've given is a huge act, something that terrorist commie brothers wouldn't have even thought of.

General amnesty you say that yet just today's news is that whichever common Afghan was refused refuge by Europe and returns will be "tried in court". And there was a PDF thread from yesterday or the day before about the Taliban getting hold of biometric data of Afghans to search for those Afghans who worked for NDS or was even a translator for various embassies. This is hypocrisy by the Taliban : Having an open embassy in a Western ally country ( Qatar ) for years, now shaking hands with their supposed enemy ( the West but after all the Western governments were among the earliest recognizers of the Taliban as "legitimate" to takeover Afghanistan in the 1990s ) but now hunting down Afghans who worked with various embassies. But no surprise about this hypocrisy.

You hate religious people and if you had the absolute power, you'd commit genocide just like your brothers.

No, I don't want to genocide anyone. I am not Gen. Suharto who genocided possibly three million Communist activists, sympathizers and just people suspected to be related to the first two and this just between 1965 and 66. But can you give me an example of religious people ?

I will give my example and I don't have problems with them :
During the same period (1920s-30s), another (though lesser known) Islamic scholar in undivided India got smitten by the 1917 Russian revolution and Marxism.

Hafiz Rahman Sihwarwl saw Islam and Marxism sharing five elements in common: (1) prohibition of the accumulation of wealth in the hands of the privileged classes (2) organisation of the economic structure of the state to ensure social welfare (3) equality of opportunity for all human beings (4) priority of collective social interest over individual privilege and (5) prevention of the permanentising of class structure through social revolution.

The motivations for many of these themes he drew from the Qur’an, which he understood as seeking to create an economic order in which the rich pay excessive, though voluntary taxes (Zakat) to minimise differences in living standards.

In the areas that Sihwarwl saw Islam and communism diverge were Islam’s sanction of private ownership within certain limits, and in its refusal to recognise an absolutely classless basis of society.

He suggested that Islam, with its prohibition of the accumulation of wealth, is able to control the class structure through equality of opportunity.

Basically, both Sindhi and Sihwarwl had stumbled upon an Islamic concept of the social democratic welfare state.

Building upon the initial thoughts of Sindhi and Sihwarwl were perhaps South Asia’s two most ardent and articulate supporters and theoreticians of Islamic Socilaism: Ghulam Ahmed Parvez and Dr. Khalifa Abdul Hakim.

Parvez was a prominent ‘Quranist’, or an Islamic scholar who insisted that for the Muslims to make progress in the modern world, Islamic thought and laws should be entirely based on the modern interpretations of the Qu’ran and on the complete rejection of the hadith (sayings of the Prophet and his companions based on hearsay and compiled over a 100 years after the Prophet’s demise).

After studying traditional Muslim texts, as well as Sufism, Parvez claimed that almost all hadiths were fabrications by those who wanted Islam to seem like an intolerant faith and by ancient Muslim kings who used these hadiths to give divine legitimacy to their tyrannical rules.

Parvez also insisted that Muslims should spend more time studying the modern sciences instead of wasting their energies on fighting out ancient sectarian conflicts or ignoring the true egalitarian and enlightening spirit of the Qu’ran by indulging in multiple rituals handed down to them by ancient ulema, clerics and compilers of the hadith.

Understandably, Parvez was right away attacked by conservative Islamic scholars and political outfits.

But this didn’t stop famous Muslim philosopher and poet, Muhammad Iqbal, to befriend the young scholar and then introduce him to the future founder of Pakistan, Muhammad Ali Jinnah.
Apart from continuing to author books and commentaries on the Qu’ran, Parvez wrote a series of articles in Talu-e-Islam that propagated a more socialistic view of the holy book.

In a series of essays for the magazine he used verses from the Qu’ran, incidents from the faith’s history and insights from the writings of Muhammad Iqbal to claim:

The clergy and conservative ulema have hijacked Islam.

They are agents of the rich people and promoters of uncontrolled Capitalism.

Socialism best enforces Qur’anic dictums on property, justice and distribution of wealth.

Islam’s main mission was the eradication of all injustices and cruelties from society. It was a socio-economic movement, and the Prophet was a leader seeking to put an end to the capitalist exploitation of the Quraysh merchants and the corrupt bureaucracy of Byzantium and Persia.

According to the Qur’an, Muslims have three main responsibilities: seeing, hearing and sensing through the agency of the mind. Consequently, real knowledge is based on empirically verifiable observation, or through the role of science.

Poverty is the punishment of God and deserved by those who ignore science.

In Muslim/Islamic societies, science, as well as agrarian reform should play leading roles in developing an industrialised economy.

A socialist path is a correction of the medieval distortion of Islam through Shari’a.
 
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What about women's rights ? Didn't Islam bring it ? Why are you scared of reasonable women's rights ?



And who arranged for those yateem children to be corrupted by the Deobandis ?



General amnesty you say that yet just today's news is that whichever common Afghan was refused refuge by Europe and returns will be "tried in court". And there was a PDF thread from yesterday or the day before about the Taliban getting hold of biometric data of Afghans to search for those Afghans who worked for NDS or was even a translator for various embassies. This is hypocrisy by the Taliban : Having an open embassy in a Western ally country ( Qatar ) for years, now shaking hands with their supposed enemy ( the West but after all the Western governments were among the earliest recognizers of the Taliban as "legitimate" to takeover Afghanistan in the 1990s ) but now hunting down Afghans who worked with various embassies. But no surprise about this hypocrisy.



No, I don't want to genocide anyone. I am not Gen. Suharto who genocided possibly three million Communist activists, sympathizers and just people suspected to be related to the first two and this just between 1965 and 66. But can you give me an example of religious people ?

I will give my example and I don't have problems with them :

Diversion again. I am presenting factual information and you are going off asking silly questions and unverified news.

Basically you are justifying the acts of your terrorists commie brothers in Afghanistan of past by quoting worldwide examples of other wrongs. Wah! How are you any different from then?
 
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Yes, the TJ seems all over India and Pakistan in the last 20 years.
Unfortunately, they also play a vital role to keep Muslims backward beside others. Special getup and asking people, this world is temporary and worldly progress is a den of the devil and after few minutes messaging on Whatsapp... .. Moderation ... hard to find.
 
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Why does it have to one or the other? Only Pakistanis take it so seriously. Always so dramatic :lol:
 
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