S Korean molested on bus in india Mar 26, 2013

[amidamaru]

well, if the australian is media is jumping on this, and as you say you can "feel the anger" , well your perception of it anyway. what is wrong with that?

at least the australian media reports the truth, and any statement they make which is incorrect they publish a recantation of what they wrote. india however, when they were reporting all the time how racist australia was, and that their were racist attacks on indians, when they found out the truth of some of those cases - for instance the culprit(s) who committed the acts were actually indian, and it was not racist. did india retract the new reports they made? no they didn't. and in reality, australias journalism shows very little of anything other then to report the facts which have emerged. australian media is a lot more professional then the indian media lol

 

[SamantK]

finally a decent post!!

exactly, the problems come down to indian society and their belief systems.

Our belief system is good enough, its the lack of education and poverty which have screwed the society.

 

[Star Wars]

oh you even wrote in bold text. you are getting angry lol

i outright refuse to believe any such problems exist in my society? please show us where i refused to believe any such things? rather even discussed it?.

based on personal experience, and there is a lot of indians here so it not like a study done on 4 or 5 people. i have worked with many more indians. do you know how statistics are done? research etc? they take a number of people and they do tests on them and they find out how effective the research is on those subject. so if 7 out of 10 subjects showed improvement, then that would indicate that the research is 70% effective in whatever area. i have met many indians, and from ALL of those i met, i would say majority of indian men are like they are still teenagers in puberty and find it hard to control their desires. in saying that, there was quite a number of indian men who went to see prostitutes every week, would scam student visa from the government etc. would always hit on most women etc, but they would not take it as far as a lot of others might. but the sexual desire of a teenager in puberty is still there..

i did not base hatred on a particular people or generalise anyone? i said there is many decent good indian people out there. i am just showing based on current events, my personal experience and the experience of others who told me about it, and also because the same consensus has been reached in many other countries too, not just australia. that this profound emotion and sexual desire etc is very prevalent in indian people and a lot of it comes down to how they are raised, and what they get from their society. this is a problem.

Angry ? ... lol .... so you are trying to make me angry and not attempting any debate "it isn't a debate in the first place,just pointless banter"

no need of furhter replies... another member has allready given it

 

[jbond197]

The western countries with their tiny population have more incidents of rape, molestation and sexual abuse on an average per capita - but that does not mean that we do not have a problem on our hands.

Read my post again. No where I defended the crime. But that guy is making it sound like no actions are taken against the culprits while in his own country Judges lets the criminals/rapists go for some weird reasons..

 

[SamantK]

The western countries with their tiny population have more incidents of rape, molestation and sexual abuse on an average per capita - but that does not mean that we do not have a problem on our hands.

Of course for them we are still the land of snake charmers and a backward society, who helped us go this way is never blamed..

 

[amidamaru]

@amidamaru -

Dude, with in a population of 1.3 billion there can be few a$$holes but good thing is such incidents are getting reported and the dickheads committing the crimes are arrested. Most Indians will seek death penalty for these perverts.

Unlike some places where judge's decides not to jail nine men guilty of raping a 10-year-old Aboriginal girl

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Btw, India is trying to fix the issues in their society in the meanwhile you folks should look into fixing yours.. Your Karma isn't that bright either..

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and I don't need to tell you where Australia ranks in similar cases so stop bitching and show the similar strength that Delhites and Indians all over the country showed against the brutal gang rape of 23 year old girl in Delhi..

i never said things do not happen in australia, it happens all over the world.

but you can't escape the fact that THESE issues are prevalent in indian society. they are more profound, even the general attitude of indian men is very bad regarding these issues.

we are more civilized in australia, but we are not perfect. we have a lot of work to do also.... but we are miles ahead of india....

 

[jbond197]

well, if the australian is media is jumping on this, and as you say you can "feel the anger" , well your perception of it anyway. what is wrong with that?

at least the australian media reports the truth, and any statement they make which is incorrect they publish a recantation of what they wrote. india however, when they were reporting all the time how racist australia was, and that their were racist attacks on indians, when they found out the truth of some of those cases - for instance the culprit(s) who committed the acts were actually indian, and it was not racist. did india retract the new reports they made? no they didn't. and in reality, australias journalism shows very little of anything other then to report the facts which have emerged. australian media is a lot more professional then the indian media lol

Dude,

Indians/Lebaonese or who ever but if they were freely attacking innocent students then what does that say about Australian Law enforcement and that too with a tiny bit of population and then you crib about a population of 1.3 billion..

 

[illusion8]

Read my post again. No where I defended the crime. But that guy is making it sound like no actions are taken against the culprits while in his own country Judges lets the criminals/rapists go for some weird reasons..

I was emphasizing the point you were making.

 

[SamantK]

i never said things do not happen in australia, it happens all over the world.

but you can't escape the fact that THESE issues are prevalent in indian society. they are more profound, even the general attitude of indian men is very bad regarding these issues.

You cannot compare the sheer Indian population with your country, please compare it with per capita if you have the statistics.

we are more civilized in australia, but we are not perfect. we have a lot of work to do also.... but we are miles ahead of india....

Can you even compare what India has been put through? Comparing us with your country is a joke.

 

[amidamaru]

Our belief system is good enough, its the lack of education and poverty which have screwed the society.

when i say belief system, i am not exactly referring to religion. i am saying, the general attitude of people.. the way their society operates. caste system, women are objects to them etc this kind of idealism.

Dude,

Indians/Lebaonese or who ever but if they were freely attacking innocent students then what does that say about Australian Law enforcement and that too with a tiny bit of population and then you crib about a population of 1.3 billion..

the issue does not come down to law per say, it is about society, how people are brought up, how they are taught or learn to perceive the world around them,right from wrong, caring or non caring etc.

 

[illusion8]

i never said things do not happen in australia, it happens all over the world.

but you can't escape the fact that THESE issues are prevalent in indian society. they are more profound, even the general attitude of indian men is very bad regarding these issues.

we are more civilized in australia, but we are not perfect. we have a lot of work to do also.... but we are miles ahead of india....

Nobody's miles ahead of nobody - every country has the same problem - there's no utopia - women get raped and molested in every country all over the world.

 

[amidamaru]

Angry ? ... lol .... so you are trying to make me angry and not attempting any debate "it isn't a debate in the first place,just pointless banter"

no need of furhter replies... another member has allready given it

no i am not trying to make you angry, although it is obvious you have some issues since you DID get defensive and use what is commonly known in psychology as deflecting. this shows a level of manipulation, you are attempting to turn what COULD of been subject to debate into an offensive against my person.

so the jakes on u bra

 

[SamantK]

when i say belief system, i am not exactly referring to religion. i am saying, the general attitude of people.. the way their society operates. caste system, women are objects to them etc this kind of idealism.

Only where there was a lack of education, from where I come a girl is still considered the most important member of the family. But sadly, Indians cannot be put in one basket. The generalisation is naive to say the least.

 

[jbond197]

i never said things do not happen in australia, it happens all over the world.

ok, I agree..

but you can't escape the fact that THESE issues are prevalent in indian society. they are more profound, even the general attitude of indian men is very bad regarding these issues.

No one is escaping. Don't tell like a mind reader what other's attitude is about certain issues. How many years have you spent in India to make that kind of perception or is it just based on the media reports you come across in Aussie.. Give us a break, Indians protested against such incidents never saw that happening in Australia even when Judge let go the criminals claiming the girl invited them over. Tells a lot about Indian's attitude and Australian attitude.

we are more civilized in australia, but we are not perfect. we have a lot of work to do also.... but we are miles ahead of india....

If you are civilized then show us the examples how you are better. Looking at the number of rape crimes in Australia I came across, I did't see any sign of civility what so ever.. Well if you have lots of work and you are miles ahead of others including India then fix the Law order situation in your country. Stop the killings of students who joined your universities in the hopes of bright future..

 

[amidamaru]

Nobody's miles ahead of nobody - every country has the same problem - there's no utopia - women get raped and molested in every country all over the world.

i disagree, the general attitude of our civilizations are different. we do not think the same, we do not have the same culture, tradition, ideology etc we are not the same people.. you would say other subcontinental countries are different, but they are more similar to indians then we are.

the way indian society is, is what ours was a hundred or so years ago.

india has moved forward, but so have we.