Russian Nerpa alarms Islamabad

[Abingdonboy]

India and Pakistan have a stated policy of no first use of nuclear weapons.

Utter, utter nonsense- the Pakistani govt have never said anything to this effect, in fact they have said the opposite in many cases.

Pakistan likely to use Nuclear weapons on India "a few days" into war: US ambassador (Wikileaks) | Real Time News, India
Nuclear doctrine of Pakistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
First strike - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Defector says Pakistan had nuclear first strike plan - CNN
BBC News | SOUTH ASIA | Pakistan 'prepared nuclear strike'
Pakistan’s Nuclear Doctrine



India is the only nation in the world with a stated "no first use" policy.

 

[Abingdonboy]

I love the wishfull of urs and ur ancestors.... u have been cryin abt it sinc 47.... and guess what india is still poor ...and we are still alot better even though we are suffering frm economic crisses due to a war waging in our north....

Girtay haien shahsawar he maidan e jang mein...

hmm:

List of countries by GDP (PPP) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


and the key one that utterly shows your ignorant comments as BS:

List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This site doesn't need more fools, do your research before making ill-judged comments.

 

[AUz]

hmm:

List of countries by GDP (PPP) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


and the key one that utterly shows your ignorant comments as BS:

List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





This site doesn't need more fools, do your research before making ill-judged comments.

Dumbass.

Overall , India and Pakistan are in the same ball-park Here is the information some member posted in this forum before ...


You guys want to prepare yourself for China whereas , India is NO WAY NEAR China ...Bharti mata is in the same ball-park as Pakistan...A little bit of difference ..

So just a few examples:

1) GDP per capita:

Pakistan------India-------China

$1207-------$1400-------$4400


2) Current account balance:

Pakistan------------India----------------China

$-1.85 billion----$-51.78 billion----$+305.4 billion


3) Inflation:

Pakistan---------India----------China

11%------------9.39%----------4.2%


4) Unemployment:

Pakistan---------India----------China

5.95-9%-----------9.4%----------4.3%


5) Structure of economy (% of GDP by sector):

-----------Pakistan-----India-------China

agriculture: 21.2%------19%-------10.2%
--industry: 25.4%------26.3%----46.9%
--services: 53.4%----54.7%----43.0%


6) Life expectancy at birth (years):

Pakistan-------India--------China

65.4----------65.4----------73.5


7) Education Index (expected & mean years of schooling):

Pakistan-------India---------China

0.386---------0.45----------0.623


8) Income Inequality Index:

Pakistan--------India----------China

0.346----------0.392---------0.534


9) Multidimensional Poverty Index:

Pakistan--------India----------China

0.264----------0.283---------0.056


10) Gender Inequality Index:

Pakistan-------India---------China

0.573---------0.617--------0.209

Now these stats can be here and there a bit ....But overall , bharti mata is same as Pakistan pretty much. (Offcourse India is doing better at this time) .... Not to mention , after all the wars , Earth Quakes and terrorism ...our economy is still holding on..This must show you the resilience of Pakistani economy.

Now please go and jack-off that your bharti mata is so great and blah blah But please don't pollute this forum

By the way , we are spending money...why your dark A$$ is on fire , bharti? Go back to your Bharat Rat-sh!t forum please....

Look at the countries who operate nuke subs- US,UK,France,Russia,China and India- notice a common thread? They all have HUGE economies to match their military might (exception of UK these days but let's gloss over that) Pakistan has NOWHERE near the economic might to justify or sustain such a program. All these countries are global powers and have ambitions beyond their own neighborhood

Wah bharti wah .. aj to lambi lambi chal rahin hain? These delusional bhartis are amazing ... So your bharti mata is a global power? LMFAO!

 

[janon]

Dumbass.

Overall , India and Pakistan are in the same ball-park Here is the information some member posted in this forum before ...


You guys want to prepare yourself for China whereas , India is NO WAY NEAR China ...Bharti mata is in the same ball-park as Pakistan...A little bit of difference ..

So just a few examples:

1) GDP per capita:

Pakistan------India-------China

$1207-------$1400-------$4400


2) Current account balance:

Pakistan------------India----------------China

$-1.85 billion----$-51.78 billion----$+305.4 billion


3) Inflation:

Pakistan---------India----------China

11%------------9.39%----------4.2%


4) Unemployment:

Pakistan---------India----------China

5.95-9%-----------9.4%----------4.3%


5) Structure of economy (% of GDP by sector):

-----------Pakistan-----India-------China

agriculture: 21.2%------19%-------10.2%
--industry: 25.4%------26.3%----46.9%
--services: 53.4%----54.7%----43.0%


6) Life expectancy at birth (years):

Pakistan-------India--------China

65.4----------65.4----------73.5


7) Education Index (expected & mean years of schooling):

Pakistan-------India---------China

0.386---------0.45----------0.623


8) Income Inequality Index:

Pakistan--------India----------China

0.346----------0.392---------0.534


9) Multidimensional Poverty Index:

Pakistan--------India----------China

0.264----------0.283---------0.056


10) Gender Inequality Index:

Pakistan-------India---------China

0.573---------0.617--------0.209

Now these stats can be here and there a bit ....But overall , bharti mata is same as Pakistan pretty much. (Offcourse India is doing better at this time) .... Not to mention , after all the wars , Earth Quakes and terrorism ...our economy is still holding on..This must show you the resilience of Pakistani economy.

Now please go and jack-off that your bharti mata is so great and blah blah But please don't pollute this forum

By the way , we are spending money...why your dark A$$ is on fire , bharti? Go back to your Bharat Rat-sh!t forum please....

Thats not what pakistani nationalist claimed. He said pak was doing better than India. When the figures were put up, you have suddenly changed horses and started bleating that China is doing better than India. Which nobody disputes.

I can only marvel at your inferiority complex, that you have to laugh about one foreign country doing better than India, as if somehow that does any credit to you. By this logic I can mention a hundred countries that are richer than pak and laugh.

I mean seriously, whats the point of comparing India with China and making fun of us, when you arent Chinese? How does THEIR performance give YOU any bragging rights?

Maybe because you have made some chinese friends on these forums, you have started deluding yourself into believing that you are Chinese? Or just accepted the fact that India is doing better than pak and that difference will only widen, so try to convince yourself that china's success is yours?

Wake up to reality - India and China are growing by leaps and bounds (with China being far ahead), while pakistan is trying desperately to prove that it is not a failed state. You say that when there won't be any wars, instability etc then your country would grow - true, but would such a time ever come? That's the whole point. Your past record and current situation doesn't inspire confidence, and you know that too, which is why you have started boasting about China's achievements as your own to mock India.

Clear manifestation of a country heading to the abyss, that its citizens have to brag about other countries' achievements. Sad, indeed.

 

[sherindian]

Dumbass.

Overall , India and Pakistan are in the same ball-park Here is the information some member posted in this forum before ...


You guys want to prepare yourself for China whereas , India is NO WAY NEAR China ...Bharti mata is in the same ball-park as Pakistan...A little bit of difference ..

So just a few examples:

1) GDP per capita:

Pakistan------India-------China

$1207-------$1400-------$4400


2) Current account balance:

Pakistan------------India----------------China

$-1.85 billion----$-51.78 billion----$+305.4 billion


3) Inflation:

Pakistan---------India----------China

11%------------9.39%----------4.2%


4) Unemployment:

Pakistan---------India----------China

5.95-9%-----------9.4%----------4.3%


5) Structure of economy (% of GDP by sector):

-----------Pakistan-----India-------China

agriculture: 21.2%------19%-------10.2%
--industry: 25.4%------26.3%----46.9%
--services: 53.4%----54.7%----43.0%


6) Life expectancy at birth (years):

Pakistan-------India--------China

65.4----------65.4----------73.5


7) Education Index (expected & mean years of schooling):

Pakistan-------India---------China

0.386---------0.45----------0.623


8) Income Inequality Index:

Pakistan--------India----------China

0.346----------0.392---------0.534


9) Multidimensional Poverty Index:

Pakistan--------India----------China

0.264----------0.283---------0.056


10) Gender Inequality Index:

Pakistan-------India---------China

0.573---------0.617--------0.209

Now these stats can be here and there a bit ....But overall , bharti mata is same as Pakistan pretty much. (Offcourse India is doing better at this time) .... Not to mention , after all the wars , Earth Quakes and terrorism ...our economy is still holding on..This must show you the resilience of Pakistani economy.

Now please go and jack-off that your bharti mata is so great and blah blah But please don't pollute this forum

By the way , we are spending money...why your dark A$$ is on fire , bharti? Go back to your Bharat Rat-sh!t forum please....





Wah bharti wah .. aj to lambi lambi chal rahin hain? These delusional bhartis are amazing ... So your bharti mata is a global power? LMFAO!

loll we agree china is ahead of us. but we r growing at comparable rate to china. while u guys are far behind at 2% growth rate. our economy can easily handle megaprojects like nuke subs u guys cant...loll. anyways y r u bringing china in.

 

[janon]

Oh what a dumbass bharti ... Inferiority-complex stricken race trolling on the net ,eh? I am not "celebrating" anything that yeah China is better than India ...duhh...Dumbo , I showed that how India and Pakistan are in the SAME ball-park ....As I stated , the information I posted had China in there too...I got this info some this forum...My whole point was : Why Bhartis' ****s are blasting over what Pakistan is spending? You can read his previous huge post....He is potraying as if India is MILES ahead of Pakistan in economy etc etc...which is not the case though (Or probably,he is just taking numbers without thinking about population factor lol) ... China is way MORE ahead of India as compared to India being ahead of Pakistan...yet..you guys buy things to counter China , right? So what if Pakistan is spending money...why your ****s are burning and you guys are running around ? Its OUR money to begin with ....

Nobody's anything is burning. Some Indians expressed concern that your military shuold probably use people's money in a wiser manner, but if they don't, you are the losers, not us. No matter what you buy or try to make, we are going to buy or make several times that, without exceeding a very reasonable 2% spending on defence. There is no way you will achieve any parity with us on military spending, and if you are foolish enough to try, be our guests.

Anyway the point here is that someone claimed pak was doing better than India in terms of prosperity, which Abingdonboy demolished with statistics. You called him a dumbass and said China was doing better than India. Which kind of shows who is the dumbass.

And by the way, if it comes to what we can spend militarily and what pak can, yes, we are MILES ahead. As of now we spend about 35 billion a year, and are set to spend a lot more. Because our economy is about 1.6 trillion, and set to grow. Your spending is what - 5 billion? 7 billion? And you have an economy that is a whopping one tenth the size of India's. So yes, on the question of who can purchase and maintain sophisticated military hardware, the answer is clear. India. Miles ahead, and going further.

When we talk of prosperity in terms of per capita GDP, yes, India and pak are in the same ballpark figures - India doing better, unlike the other guy's claim. And the difference is set to widen.

So in short, yes, we are MILES ahead in the field that matters to the topic of the thread - military spending power. Currently about 7 times larger than yours, set to increase. Deal with it.

 

[Alchemy]

Nothing to proud, rented Nuke Sub From Russia, Then threaten Pak, only Indian is proud of this!!!
I think Indian should learn how to manipulate it, and do more fire drilles, and I pay attention on when indian domestic Nuke Sub can really enter into service!!!
Mock at your rival by rented weapon. Does indian have anything to make fun? If PLA rent the weapon, then boast of these, I will mock at PLA!!! Different mind!!

Anything that makes you feel better If you really dont bother about Nerpa why even take time reply to the thread ? come back when Indias own Nuclear sub is ready to post further ..

By the way when a missile is fired from Nerpa it wont matter whether its leased or owned

 

[ZABASHO]

I love the wishfull of urs and ur ancestors.... u have been cryin abt it sinc 47.... and guess what india is still poor ...and we are still alot better even though we are suffering frm economic crisses due to a war waging in our north....

Girtay haien shahsawar he maidan e jang mein...

my ancestors?? dont you mean ours? We do come from the same collective you know
sure, we are a poor nation but still do a lot better than you today
Either way, its good you guys spending excessively on military. Most of the major technical innovations come directly or indirectly from that field, example: PACPAD

and the war in your north, thats your own loins bursting. Not our problem. You want to spend your money, do it either way you want, stop preaching XYZ war crisis to us.

 

[shiv]

Pakistan Balance of Trade -1711.00 Million USD
USDPKR Exchange Rate 90.87
Pakistan GDP 174.80 billion USD
Pakistan GDP Growth Rate 2.39 percent
Pakistan GDP per capita 668.55 US Dollars
Pakistan GDP per capita PPP 2687.63 US Dollars
Pakistan Government Bond 10Y 12.91 percent PKR
Pakistan Inflation Rate 10.10 percent
Pakistan Interest Rate 12.00 percent

Indicators for PAKISTAN

India Balance of Trade -12737.00 Million USD
USDINR Exchange rate 49.31
India GDP 1729.01 billion USD
India GDP Annual Growth Rate 6.90 percent
India GDP per capita 822.76 US Dollars
India GDP per capita PPP 3582.48 US Dollars
India Government Bond 10Y 8.89 percent
India Inflation Rate 6.49 percent
India Interest Rate 7.50 percent

The overall health of economy is not indicated by the GDP growth rates or per capita GDP.
Check the bond yields. A difference of ~4% to borrow money. That indicates how much world's confidence in pak's stability
Exchange rate is almost double for you ppl.
As most of our countrymen are poor ( as pk and cn members make us believe ) it is more reasonable to compare the per capita income in PPP terms ( PPP indicates the cost of daily life from bus fare to cost of hair cut etc ).
The difference is a whopping 1000$$.
When you compound it with the total population difference, see how much money we have to spend be it on military or car or tv sets etc.

ie 950 million * 1000 = ~1Trillion dollars of difference. Which is only going to multiply ( compare the difference in growth rates of two countries )

 

[trinity]

A perfect example of how loose lips sink ships. Indian media should have never been allowed to report the lease of this nuke sub. The gov;t missed the ball on this one. Better to keep our defence matters quiet depending on the weapon or resource.

 

[lepziboy]

Pakistan Balance of Trade -1711.00 Million USD
USDPKR Exchange Rate 90.87
Pakistan GDP 174.80 billion USD
Pakistan GDP Growth Rate 2.39 percent
Pakistan GDP per capita 668.55 US Dollars
Pakistan GDP per capita PPP 2687.63 US Dollars
Pakistan Government Bond 10Y 12.91 percent PKR
Pakistan Inflation Rate 10.10 percent
Pakistan Interest Rate 12.00 percent

Indicators for PAKISTAN

India Balance of Trade -12737.00 Million USD
USDINR Exchange rate 49.31
India GDP 1729.01 billion USD
India GDP Annual Growth Rate 6.90 percent
India GDP per capita 822.76 US Dollars
India GDP per capita PPP 3582.48 US Dollars
India Government Bond 10Y 8.89 percent
India Inflation Rate 6.49 percent
India Interest Rate 7.50 percent

The overall health of economy is not indicated by the GDP growth rates or per capita GDP.
Check the bond yields. A difference of ~4% to borrow money. That indicates how much world's confidence in pak's stability
Exchange rate is almost double for you ppl.
As most of our countrymen are poor ( as pk and cn members make us believe ) it is more reasonable to compare the per capita income in PPP terms ( PPP indicates the cost of daily life from bus fare to cost of hair cut etc ).
The difference is a whopping 1000$$.
When you compound it with the total population difference, see how much money we have to spend be it on military or car or tv sets etc.

ie 950 million * 1000 = ~1Trillion dollars of difference. Which is only going to multiply ( compare the difference in growth rates of two countries )

Per capita in GDP of india is now 1500 US dollars not 822

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

I really want Pakistan to make a nuclear submarine, really.

Inshallah

 

[Ajaxpaul]

I think Nerpa Will be a pain in the *** for USA and australia, more than china and pakistan, because IO was a playground for USN for a very long time. With Russia resuming patrolling the oceans, Its a tense time for USN.

I think we will never even station the Nuclear sub in Arabian sea. Nerpa's play ground will be Indian Ocean till Indonesia.

I have a question...Will Nuclear subs take part in Naval War games?

 

[ZABASHO]

I think Nerpa Will be a pain in the *** for USA and australia, more than china and pakistan, because IO was a playground for USN for a very long time. With Russia resuming patrolling the oceans, Its a tense time for USN.

I think we will never even station the Nuclear sub in Arabian sea. Nerpa's play ground will be Indian Ocean till Indonesia.

I have a question...Will Nuclear subs take part in Naval War games?

In the context of your post, check this: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?21489-Operation-Cactus-Maldives-1988. Post #11

 

[Raje amar]

with India operating close to 5 nuclear subs by 2020, i think Pak must have at least 3 of these.....
that to they shoud hury so as to make one operational by 2020 (unless thay get one on lease as India).

And by that logic they must keep at least $5bil aside for the same.
Pak must operate Nuclear subs to enhance their emage in the Arabs as defender of Muslims in the known world.

go Pakistan go.