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Ow! So here come an analyst..You cant blame others for your coward-ness. China didnt help those Pakistani troops who were employed on the border to protect their territory and were killed one by one but their own Pakistani military didnt help their friends while those NATOs helicopters remained on the spot for over 1.5 hours? Only those get help who may help themselves. Your friendship with China only insults China. Even if Iran needs help, then it is possible only when they would come with something to say that, Iran has sunk a USs AC and now what Iran would do? and then China or Russia would talk to US/ West. And I hope Iran is capable enough to defend itself and protect honor of her friends like Russia/ China also, which Pakistan couldnt.
The Russians could try to defend Iran but I doubt they would be able to hold off the US or Israel. Russias armed forces are in horrible shape. Low morale, old equipment, lack of training..... they have a great military on paper but if tested they would prove to be hollow at the moment. The Russians have started some very good reforms but they need at least a decade before they could throw with modern armies imho.
The Russians will do nothing once the shooting starts.
The Soviets did nothing for Iraq. What make you think the smaller Russia can do anything for Iran?
Then why don't you go for it then. Stop stalling.
Ow! So here come an analyst..
Well first of all China is not like U.S to interfere in personal matter without getting permission..But Their stance they've taken is very much appreciated in Pakistan on public level...Then next! Our Politicians and Bureacrats+some generals have accounts in some foriengn lands so they just for their self accounts safety they have done some deals with U.S... these traitors didn't gave order to shot down NATO's choppers..There is no point of doubt on Pakistani defence abilities.. Watever you said right afterwards is reflecting to your lack of knowledge on certain conditions... Better for you to grow up then try to do some analysis...
Sir, I would like to apologize for anything I said which won’t suit reputation of Pakistan. And I preferred to make very few statements on that incident of 24 Pakistani troops. But here the things become different when I find our Pakistani side trying to discourage Iran’s civilians and then I find myself in the position to interfere. Here I made comment because it was the question “Whether Russia/ China would help Iran or not.” And one more time I had to interfere when our one Pakistani member tried to prove “no matter what Pakistan is superior to Iran.” And I had to come with comparison based on GFP, as per in my post 118 as below
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...s-aircraft-carrier-returns-8.html#post2459955
And I only tried to say that “Only those get help who can help themselves” and yes we all need help as no one is a born superman. I find Iran would either get rid off the sanctions somehow, or, they have to fight. And if we can’t help them then at least we may keep their morale high?
And about traitors? India itself is full of traitors who are being funded by the foreigners to even organize riots in India and most of them are being led by a CIA’s spy Sonia Gandhi. Its true that we have threats from traitors, not from enemies. and in case of Pakistan, I find Pakistani troops full of lions but as they are led by dogs, they are facing all these circumstances……....
If Russia or China intend to help now is the time they should be providing high tech missiles etc. That might negate the reason to possibly get involved in the future. That's what worries me and makes me think neither Russia or China will get involved. Cos if Iran was that important surely they would be providing weapons now. But as others have posted I think Iranians will give a good account and accept significant western losses in the first 48 hours. Then China and Russia may get involved diplomatically. Maybe they want to see America with a bloodied nose and lose maybe an AC
Russia also had a ship that transported weapons to Syria a few days back, they could very well supply Iran.
if they wanne help us they should give our s-300,buk,su-27,mig-31 and su-30 mkp that we ordered soon
First of all.. you could find different preceptions from one nation.. On iran's matter ..some Pakistanis support them ,some talk neutral..and some discourages them but its don't matter..just views and preceptions..wats matters is our national policey on iran.. Did it ever opposes them? Ever?
No doubt that iranian Navy is getting better and better.... But do you have any doubt on our PAF and Land forces ..even Our current navy has Guts to shake any land..talking about all options... Pakistan and iran Both have few different geographical views on that basis both forces are in edge at different scenarios..
If You're talking about war then we Pakistanis better know wat to do... So I prefer temperament on Morale and advice iran to do same..
The last Para of your post contains nothing to disagree...
But Our not all Generals did wrong except few ones...
So I personally really love them and salute their bravery..
Maneka Gandhi slams Digvijay Singh for terming Batla house encounter as fake
http://www.newstrackindia.com/newsd...or-terming-Batla-house-encounter-as-fake.html
Syria is already a walking dead. Only thing Russia can do is lengthen its agony by slaughtering own people. Iran remained with no allies.Russia won't let Syria or Iran down, as it doesn't want to lose allies in a region important to it
Russia protecting its Middle East allies - The National
Mullah regime does not afraid from US. It afraids from own people. Just like Syria. All iranian war rethorics is designed to distract people from internal problems unite them against common enemy.if they wanne help us they should give our s-300,buk,su-27,mig-31 and su-30 mkp that we ordered soon