not hart at the time of iran iraq war our expert also could go to a mortar or cannon landing site and say from where it launched, but what was the use , the important thing is doing it in time and your counter battery radar is useless , the atgm fly under their minimum detection height and the lancet won't use a ballistic trajectory
You don't need counter battery if you have gunship and fast air, Ukraine lacked both, that's why COUNTBAT is important for them. For Poland, you have at least 300 ready to fly aircraft from in and around Poland ready to get in and drop their ordinance, it could expand to 1000 if they need from allies such as US, Canada.
And you don't just pick up missile profile nowadays, not even when I was running TOC back in 2005. You have a complementary of SIGNIT, THERINT, SATINT, ELINT and different kind of sensor, every discharge comes with all sort of signature you can trace, be it thermal, noise, trajectory or even Satellite imaging. For example, NASA FIRMS system can pick up fires in real time anywhere in the world using Satellite and Geological Data.
Fire Information for Resource Management System
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While I can't tell you what kind of signature monitoring capability we use in the military, I can tell you this, in Afghanistan, I was once involved in an operation in which we track and follow a target by the cigarette he is smoking, do you honestly think we can't track someone using ATGM or Drone in a build up area? Once you launch your platform, it would be picked up.
I mean, we aren't that stupid when someone fire a ATGM or someone launch a drone and we don't even know where to look, even if we don't know where that came from we would still have a general direction, again, unless the Russian bring along Aviation Asset, it's impossible anyone can exfil faster than NATO putting up asset and hunt you down, you can of course believe what you want to believe. Especially you need to be quite close to deploy both platform, you have around 3 to 4 km range on ATGM and you can only launch a drone with max 40 minutes flight time, which translate to less than 15 KM away from your target, it's a very small search grid in case you are wondering.
On the other hand, I would even think Wagner does not process LRRP or LRIP capability like this, it takes a US Army Special Force Reconnaissance Team ~28 months training to do both, and I went thru the Paratrooper Pathfinder program after Ranger School, and I don't even consider I am proficient to pull LRRP like this. And you are saying Wagner group, who now resorted to recruit from jail, can go in and out of a hostile country with advance detection capabilities, without being notice? I don't even think the original Wagner can pull this off, let alone prisoner Wagner....
Do you see Russian jets flying over Kyiv and having a field day above well-protected spaces?
What is stopping Russia from wiping out massed Ukrainian formations near the front lines with jets?
So much for Russia having a field day with Poland-level defenses and destroying thousands of vehicles.
Mark my words: Russia cannot defeat NATO-backed Poland in war, cannot even breach its borders.
Polish air defence is much better as well. Russian missiles will be shot down.
Read following post to understand why Ukraine could be invaded:
“You know its bad when even cnn” No thats allowing some freedom of independant press instead of jailing/murdering opposition leaders and sentencing anyone with a wrong opinion on the war to 15 years in prison. Cnn conducts these polls regularly. But it is a bad development that after 1,5...
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US is able penetrate well-defended spaces with its incredible stealth attack platforms. This is how US was able to shatter integrated defenses of Iraq in 1991 and Yugoslavia in 1999. Russia does not have this capability.
It is entirely stupid if Russia want to invade Poland using Wagner. And this would benefit Ukraine a lot, like ALOT if this actually do happen.
Set aside whether or not Russia has enough people to do that, Poland would most definitely involve in Ukraine directly if Russia is using Belarus to f with the Pole. The pole will pay them back by using Ukraine to F with the Russian, and this is the last thing the Russian need.
Belarus can say these are Wagner and it have nothing to do with them or Russia, Poland can also organise some militia group and arm them with Jet and Helicopter and tell Russia those are Militia and it have nothing to do with them.
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