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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

Ukraine and Turkey signed a memorandum on the development of production of unmanned aircraft in Ukraine..

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Summer Operations | The Russians Escalate Crisis In The Black Sea. Military Summary For 2023.07.08

 
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Have to agree here.

For the first superpower america sure seems to drip feed the support.

I expect this to be done to deliberately grind down russia while minimizing risk to US assets.

Going heavy on support would wrap up the conflict faster but not crippling russia enough for the long term. USA wants to pivot towards the pacific/focus on China afterall.

It also puts pressure on europe to carry the weight (which it hardly can, we almost budgetted away our militaries).
Getting them to “return under its wings/influence” as well as buying a lot of new military material and oil/gas from America.

Geopolitically this is a dream come through for America.

I've been saying this since the war started. It's not in the US interest for the Russians to be defeated quickly. They could have even prevented this war by flooding Ukraine with armour and F16s and making it a major non-NATO ally, but the wanted a war and use Ukraine for another "Afghanistan" for the Russians. Of course the Russians were too stupid and egotistical and fell for the trap. The US still could have ended the war by the end of last year if it didn't drip feed the Ukrainians with military aid. The US will be the only real winner from this, not Ukraine.
 
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True face of NATO. Can't keep to written and signed agreements. Precisely why we are in this mess.

But what do you expect from NATO's "secretary of terrorist affairs" aka Turkey that is weak alone but feels slight esteem boost from submitting to the Anglosaxon neo colonialism agendas? You forgot this same Turkey hosts, protects, trains, treats tand manages ISIS leaders and manpower in Turkey?
 
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A major arse-kicking is coming to NATO's cannon fodder aka Ukrainian armed forces and other mercenaries. Fasten your seat belts. Things are about to get escalated as they've never been before. No amount of big paragraphs in forums and NAFO propaganda will have an impact on what is about to come to this conflict.



I think you have posts like this about what will get unleashed after Bakhmut will be overrun. Now Wagner is on the run, and Russians have halted all advance, and you are admitting that despite this Bakhmut 'victory' Ukraine is in a position to invade
 
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No one still knows where the billions sent to Afghanistan went either.


Britain had a tough time beating Argentina, it's Navy isn't powerful enough to fight Russia alone.
it sank a battle ship, lost no planes in air combat, and pretty much neutered Argentine air power over the army (not over the Navy) all from a naval only fleet (less the Vulcan attack) and recaptured territory 8,000 miles from its shores but it was only a few 100 miles off Argentina.

I don't believe Britain should have a say over Falklands, but militarily Russia has yet to demonstrate anything like this austere operation. It instead operates in its near borders, or with mercaneries against non nation actors. Thats about the limit of it.

As I stated previously, this midget comedian on the directives of his masters in Washington & Tel Aviv will do anything in the book to get us to WW3. He's clowning the world whilst wasting our tax dollars away.

Your objective and informative military opinions are down to juvenile name throwing. It does not do you justice. But I guess when your predictions around assured Russian victory after Bakhmut didn't materialize (instead a rebellion from Russia's own) this behavior is what you hve to go by

France is being burned by the tens of thousands of migrants it was generous enough to let in and live permanently. Probably from your continent. Saudi Arabia , Qatar kicks people out after their contracts over. They don't allow migration from these same africans and arabs, unless you are rich then all these countries have you
Says the guys living in France while it is burning and the weapons sent to Ukraine are finding themselves back in the France's streets.
 
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The world has been totally mislead by fantasy of Ukraine victory. None is possible. US/NATO have sent all kinds of weapons but none have worked to dislodge the Russians except the western media is full of stories of Ukrainian victories.

A good solution is to dump the idea of Ukraine becoming NATO member and seek peace.
what are you smoking? Seriously delusion is not healthy. Russia was to be in Kyiv within weeks of invasion, have a stooge Govt installed and basically nueter Ukraine. Instead it lost half the territory it tried to gain, had its first rebellion, and war is pretty much (courtesy of drones) is over Moscow. Putin takes the train and last week an airport was shutdown.

That is all happening because of weapons (NATO or not)

Bro, it's time for Russia to send in the long range bombers and level all decision making centres in Ukraine. Bonus if they get the clown of Kiev and free the people of Ukraine from his BS. The more advanced the weapons get being sent to Russia the closer we get to the nuclear threshold. And god-forbid if that happens as it will be a truly regrettable day world over.
This is not the 80s where you need blackjacks to project power. What is a Blackjack going to do that Russia's unleashing of cruise missiles have not been able to accomplish

That’s interesting.
Erdogan supports Ukraine NATO membership.
What Putin thinking?
Will he forbid Russians to make holiday in Turkey in retaliation?


Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan (right) met with Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky in Istanbul, Turkey July 7, 2023. 's President Volodymyr Zelensky in Istanbul, Turkey July 7, 2023.

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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan (right) met with Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky in Istanbul, Turkey July 7, 2023.

Mohsin: given you can't stomach this, why not give Erdogan a juvenile name and let the name calling begin to add to your for Zelensky. Nobody here uses berating terms for Putin.
 
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As usual, resident irangerians make propaganda based on fake accounts Turkey allow terror.
 
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Collision with mines of a large column of Ukrainian armored vehicles near Novodarovka. Published footage of hitting mines, a large column of military equipment of the Ukrainian army in the area of Novodarovka in the Zaporozhye region. After hitting the mines, Russian artillery began to work along the column. As a result of the battle, if it can be called that, 8 armored vehicles were destroyed, among them MaxxPro armored vehicles, as well as 2 tanks. In the same place, you can see 2 armored vehicles previously knocked out. It is not clear why, when the first armored vehicles hit the mines, the column did not stop moving and why there were no mine-clearing vehicles and minesweeping tanks.


Footage of a colossal explosion when using the tank as a kamikaze vehicle of the same role. A Russian kamikaze tank was equipped with 6 tons of explosives and sent towards Ukrainian positions. The tank did not reach the target, hitting a mine, after which it was destroyed from an RPG, despite this, the explosion of such an amount of explosives at a short distance is dangerous for soldiers in positions. Ukrainian units reportedly retreated from the stronghold after the explosion.


Published footage of a ram by a German tank Leopard 2A6 of the army of Ukraine, an armored personnel carrier M2A2 Bradley, previously delivered from the United States to Ukraine. In the video, a damaged Ukrainian Leopard 2A6 tank crashes into a wrecked M2A2 Bradley armored personnel carrier, after which an explosion occurs and it starts to move back. The reasons for what happened to the Ukrainian tank Leopard 2A6 and the fate of its crew are not reported.


A kamikaze armored car with 3 tons of explosives was blown up in Ukraine. A Russian serviceman spoke about turning an MT-LB armored personnel carrier into a kamikaze vehicle with 3.5 tons of explosives and sending it to a stronghold of the Ukrainian army.

 
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Russia already uses cluster munitions. Also Russia, the USA, and Ukraine are not signatories of the treaty banning said cluster munitions.

Your mentioning of it being banned is badly thought out.


Lmao, you're correct.

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Those losses are visually confirmed, meaning they're undeniable.

Also, see above.

It doesn't matter. Now the US had has made sure that Russia is going to use banned weapons indiscriminately.
 
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