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Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2
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The likely numbers are probably around 50k for Russia, and half to third of that number for Ukraine. Devastating for sure.
I'd say that considering how intense the battle was, it's certainly possible.
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That’s easy to understand. The size maybe 50,000 they can keep the size if they replace the loss. The wagners do rotation of troops. They assault Ukraine army in small groups. Once a group of 10 is dead or wounded, the next group of 10 run towards Ukraine artillery. Then the next group of 10. Then the next.
There is no lack of zombies. Russia’s prisons and gulags are full, they talk about 500,000 men. Lots of those inmates are keen to get free. And they get money. much higher than Russia regular army men. Money is sexy. That’s worth the death. They can spend the money in paradise. Or give it to their parents.
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Devastating and huge numbers between the two opponents.. that's like a loss of 7 to 8 divisions not brigades..considering divisions of between 8000 and 12 000 soldiers.. in one battle and one city alone!
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Zelensky: "Bakhmut is now only in our hearts"
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Russia:Poland must return the money that the Soviet Union spent on it during and after World War II.
Ukrainian military correspondent Andriy Rudenko:
The Commander-in-Chief of the Ukrainian forces, Valery Zaluzhny, is in critical condition and is fighting death, after being targeted by a Russian strike.
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He's not sending F-16s, allies are. So he's technically correct.
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Ukraine is beating Russia. Ammo is easily replaceable.
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You might be right, but he said so about the Abrams tanks and changed his mind after!
"Including F-16s"..meaning at least the Mirage 2k from France will be sent too!
Jake Sullivan:
Ukraine will be supplied with F-16 fighter jets on the condition that they not be used for strikes on the Russian Federation.
Jake Sullivan:The United States when providing military assistance to Ukraine, trying to avoid the outbreak of the Third World War.
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So far, none of these keyboard generals ever got hired as war consultants. I wonder why...
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"Amerika never win any war haha" .....nags about USA every day.
"Haha Jews can't fight for shiet look at how they cry when lost one soldiers".......can't explain how Israel won every major conflict and occupies most of Palestine.
"Haha Serb,Greek,Armenians and Russian soldier only good against civilians,when brave Muslim army appears always show real power"....can't explain countless defeats on the battlefield from the early 19th century onwards.
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After months of fighting Russia, EU nations would run out of artillery ammo, though the EU starts a campaign against Russia to inform the Russians they are not a capable fighting force.
Many NATO countries were said to have already had weapons stockpiles that did not meet the bloc's targets prior to Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine nearly a year ago, according to the report from Reuters.
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Russia uses 1 million shells in less than a month or two. And has huge supplies left.
NATO members: Stop the Russians not with shells. Stop the Russians with information that the Russian Armed Forces are weak, after the Russians capture town after town in the EU.
When the period to not be critical of the limitations of NATO Europe is when the Russians are invading. Then there is silence. Idiots are critical when it is too late. The intelligent are critical when you can prepare.
The present is the period to be critical of limitations of the armed forces of NATO Europe, since there is years before Russia plans to invade NATO Europe. Preparations before war. Once war starts you cannot increase your own bombed out industry.
Once Russia invades, Europe deals with its own lack and limitations. The present is for rearmament. You see Russia winning vs the Ukrainian Armed Forces, you prepare.
You do realize the reason why the Allies won WWII was greater industrial capacity and production. The reason why Italy folded so quickly was Italian industry was only 15% of France and UK. If you have arms industry churning out weapons and ammo. You win. If your defense is telling the other nation they are weak, you lose. Simple as that.
Denmark had victory handed to them by Washington and Moscow. By Soviet industry and USA industry. Hitlers few supa dupa mega tanks were not enough. Few wonder weapons is not enough.
Germany industry was small compared to the Allies. That is why Germany lost. Industry. And Hitlers delay on making nukes also lost the war.
Rearm. Make nukes. Make ammo. Europe can do this. Has to be done very soon. Should have been done last year.
The Russia Republicans won't save Europe. Bannon and Tucker are cheering for Putin.
Putin (with Trump in the WH) would say "end NATO or Russia invades NATO Europe". Trump would gaslight and say "I told Europe to end NATO and Europe wanted war with Russia". This is the blame the victim stuff Putin has used in the wars Russia started. Expect more of the same blame the victim to start a war on NATO Europe. Insert a blame victim fake reason for war, Russia would use it to invade the next nation on the list. Same as Russia did with Ukraine.
NATO Allies Would Run Out of Ammo Within Days of War With Russia: Report
NATO recently completed a large survey of its ammunition stockpiles and found supplies have been considerably depleted by the war in Ukraine, according to a new report.Many NATO countries were said to have already had weapons stockpiles that did not meet the bloc's targets prior to Russian President Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine nearly a year ago, according to the report from Reuters.
NATO allies would run out of ammo within days of war with Russia: Report
A NATO official reportedly said a recent survey of alliance stockpiles shows supplies have been depleted by the war in Ukraine.
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EU will discuss plan to increase production of artillery shells to one million per year
EU will discuss plan to increase production of artillery shells to one million per year
On Wednesday, the European Commission will propose a plan to increase the production capacity for the production of artillery shells to one million a year against the background of the need to meet the military needs of Ukraine and replenish its own reserves.
Russia uses 1 million shells in less than a month or two. And has huge supplies left.
NATO members: Stop the Russians not with shells. Stop the Russians with information that the Russian Armed Forces are weak, after the Russians capture town after town in the EU.
When the period to not be critical of the limitations of NATO Europe is when the Russians are invading. Then there is silence. Idiots are critical when it is too late. The intelligent are critical when you can prepare.
The present is the period to be critical of limitations of the armed forces of NATO Europe, since there is years before Russia plans to invade NATO Europe. Preparations before war. Once war starts you cannot increase your own bombed out industry.
Once Russia invades, Europe deals with its own lack and limitations. The present is for rearmament. You see Russia winning vs the Ukrainian Armed Forces, you prepare.
You do realize the reason why the Allies won WWII was greater industrial capacity and production. The reason why Italy folded so quickly was Italian industry was only 15% of France and UK. If you have arms industry churning out weapons and ammo. You win. If your defense is telling the other nation they are weak, you lose. Simple as that.
Denmark had victory handed to them by Washington and Moscow. By Soviet industry and USA industry. Hitlers few supa dupa mega tanks were not enough. Few wonder weapons is not enough.
Germany industry was small compared to the Allies. That is why Germany lost. Industry. And Hitlers delay on making nukes also lost the war.
Rearm. Make nukes. Make ammo. Europe can do this. Has to be done very soon. Should have been done last year.
The Russia Republicans won't save Europe. Bannon and Tucker are cheering for Putin.
Putin (with Trump in the WH) would say "end NATO or Russia invades NATO Europe". Trump would gaslight and say "I told Europe to end NATO and Europe wanted war with Russia". This is the blame the victim stuff Putin has used in the wars Russia started. Expect more of the same blame the victim to start a war on NATO Europe. Insert a blame victim fake reason for war, Russia would use it to invade the next nation on the list. Same as Russia did with Ukraine.
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Latest US casualty estimates:
Russia- 230K with 50K killed
Ukraine- 150K with 20K killed
42K civilians dead
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