Russia-Ukraine War - News and Developments PART 2

[mulj]

Again, that's not what you said at all.

You said the Russia would launch an offensive in the Summer (which is in about 5 weeks time) and you don't buy they run out of men and materiel.

And again, my question is, if they had not run out, and can sustain another offensive, why stop the current one and launch another one in 5 to 6 weeks. You just don't do that, if you have enough man power for another imminent push, you would do it now, instead of in 5 or 6 weeks time.......

This is not a "Hey, let's see how we can make it harder than it already is" game we are playing. In war, unless you have some sort of need to make it hard, you usually don't do that...........

I gave my estimation because i am not delusional that they are intact and fresh as at the start of the war, that is normal period for rotating, resupplying and redirecting limited amount of personal and equipment that they commited in ukraina.
Your position is contrary of it that they are not capable for any offensive in foreseable future. Lets see who guessed better.

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1660162583997849602

 

[The SC]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1660244137818435584

President Biden confirms over 100K Russian casualties KIA/WIA in Bakhmut. The 58th largest city in Ukraine

https://twitter.com/x/status/1660301104163241984

 

[925boy]

What complete Rubbish ..

Ukraine has honoured every commitment it has made to those who are supporting it -

oh really? then why hasnt it accepted so many of its "MIA" soldiers are actually dead and pay the millions of Hyvinas to their families that are owed? That's a big betrayal of those Ukrainian soldiers in the x,xxx #s of dead, but Ukrainian govt misclassified them as MIA, not KIA/dead.

and every individual in Ukraine understands the need to do that -

whatever bro

so that they can continue to beat Russia on the field.

hmm, beat Russia? could you please share some recent examples of that? share some information you have. thnx.

 

[The SC]

Does anyone know if

(1) the "Perimeter" system is still in operation and if
(2) it has yesterday been activated (!?)

Dead Hand - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/russias-dead-hand.526112/

In 2011 The commander of Russian strategic missile forces said:
"It is possible to return to the dead hand system immediately when necessary.. It's automatic nuclear revenge when you cut off the head of Great Russia"

 

[925boy]

Well, lying and twisting reality is really your best?

why getting personal instead of arguing the point?

The Russians flatten whole Ukrainian cities without mercy

because Ukrainian troops were holding onto every block or apartment complex, they didnt want to retreat, so why should Russian troops die instead of just safely taking out the Ukrainian soldiers they had to mop up to gain full control of Bakhmut?

for any civilians

i'm not reading much about civilian casualties in the news recently, at least not from Russian actions- can you show some data to support this? besides many civilians had chances to leave those cities before the main clashes btwn Russian and Ukrainian troops occurred.

and you rate a tiny UAV attack against the Kremlin an assignation? Really …

then what else is it? its either that or its not- that was the crossing of a red line, so that's why Zaluzhny and that other top general are both gone now.

Russia has probably been fortressing up Bakhmut for a while now, but its completion will probably take some time.

 

[jhungary]

I gave my estimation because i am not delusional that they are intact and fresh as at the start of the war, that is normal period for rotating, resupplying and redirecting limited amount of personal and equipment that they commited in ukraina.
Your position is contrary of it that they are not capable for any offensive in foreseable future. Lets see who guessed better.

I am not saying you are delusion or anything else. I simply asked you a question which I don't get a straight answer on.

 

[925boy]

We should make you a general. You're wasting your talent here.

if this is your way of accepting some of my points are valid, then i appreciate it.

 

[Viet]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1660162583997849602

Man, don’t be ridiculous. Prigozhin was a bank robber, a hot dog seller, restaurant operator. He once served foods to Putin. He can be a drug dealer. He can be everything. He plays many roles. He enjoys protection from Putin. He kills people for money. That brings more profits than selling hamburgers. That’s all.

 

[That Guy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1660162583997849602

No, just no. This is pure propaganda.

 

[kingQamaR]

I gave my estimation because i am not delusional that they are intact and fresh as at the start of the war, that is normal period for rotating, resupplying and redirecting limited amount of personal and equipment that they commited in ukraina.
Your position is contrary of it that they are not capable for any offensive in foreseable future. Lets see who guessed better.

Before we can see leopards 2 rolling we can’t say it’s start of a counteroffensive. We don’t see it , so we can be sure that new formed brigades are still on the rear.

 

[zectech]

@Ich

Which side wins in a decade long war.

(1) Capable Russia, since the Russians won the battle of Bakhmut. Since Russia owns 20% of Ukraine after 9+ years of off and on fighting.

A creeping barrage on a large front after 5 years and Poland falls; the Baltic states fall. If Russia wants more, Russia would take more.

Or (2) The side that keeps telling fellow Europeans that Russia is weak. Win not via arms, win via telling the Russians they are weak. When the Russians invade NATO Europe, Europeans can kindly info the Russians they are not a capable fighting force and are weak and should go home. That won't help the Europeans defend themselves. Don't get high on your own supply of propaganda.

Oh, then the propaganda is Putin and warmongering cronies would be ousted in a coup. Pie in the sky. The Russian Mafia, Russian Chabad and Russian Oligarchs control Russia with Putin. If Putin goes, another United Russia crony is ready to rule Russia. Democracy was clamped down on for the past 20 years by Putin.

Rearmament this year and greatly increase ammo production this year via increased industrial capacity and production of arms and ammo.

 

[That Guy]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1660301104163241984

Wagner did the main fighting, but it was heavily supported by regular Russian forces. It was also allowed to replenish its losses quickly by being given first priority when it comes to recruiting.

100k losses could very well have happened and Wagner could very well have had 50k as well. They merely beat the attrition rate that the regular Russian army suffers from.

 

[The SC]

Wagner did the main fighting, but it was heavily supported by regular Russian forces. It was also allowed to replenish its losses quickly by being given first priority when it comes to recruiting.

100k losses could very well have happened and Wagner could very well have had 50k as well. They merely beat the attrition rate that the regular Russian army suffers from.

It is a little too exaggerated for Bakhmut alone.. maybe on the whole front!?
The Russian say that they have neutralized around 31 000 AFU in Bakhmut..and killed around 22 000 from them..

 

[Viet]

That is why Wagner has announced that they will withdraw next week and lick its wounds. Some ”rolling”…

The wagners will leave and seek a new target. They will let Bakhmut to the Russians troops to occupation. Bakhmut has the size of a fishing village in China. It took them 10 months, costing the wagners at least 100,000 men, numerous Russia regular troops dead and wounded coming on top.
Let’s see. What next. Maybe they will try to attack the million city Knipro.
That will be interesting.