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Russia fires 60,000 shells per day
That estimated number is from the past. That is not happening anymore, if it ever did. Russia is hardly producing 6.000 shells per day in total.
Besides, last time I read about it, estimated production capacity of 152 mm shells in Russia was less than 50.000 per month, which means Rheinmetall alone is on par with Russia regarding long range 155 mm artillery shells.
 
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That estimated number is from the past. That is not happening anymore, if it ever did. Russia is hardly producing 6.000 shells per day in total.
Besides, last time I read about it, estimated production capacity of 152 mm shells in Russia was less than 50.000 per month, which means Rheinmetall alone is on par with Russia regarding long range 155 mm artillery shells.

Germans have no ammunition and we know that
 
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That estimated number is from the past. That is not happening anymore, if it ever did. Russia is hardly producing 6.000 shells per day in total.
Ah, the Nato bot MeFishToo knows exactly, how many shells are produced in Russia.

I am always deeply impressed, how you lunatics have knowledge about literally everything, even secret stuff. I bet you know even better than Putin, what his breakfast was today.
 
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Summer Operations | Russian Long Range Assets Pummel Ukraine. Military Summary For 2023.08.15

 
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Ah, the Nato bot MeFishToo knows exactly, how many shells are produced in Russia.

I am always deeply impressed, how you lunatics have knowledge about everything, even secret stuff. I bet you know even better than Putin, what his breakfast was today.
Be impressed all you want. Im ignoring you. Your trolling is wasted on me.
 
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The roubles can crash again towards 150. Russia economy has deteriorated it has too little substance to catch the dive.


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That is pressure on international market not to trade in Rubel. That cant last long. China will enforce its market dominance and US will have to withdraw these un-warranted pressures on international market, else US market would hit further into inflationary drive. No single power can sustain such pressures.

In a recent meetup at kamra, group members discussed the success of russian S70 in air defence suppression and some long range precision strikes over Ukraine. Very impressive work.
 
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“It’s not about a lack of political will, Pie argued, but rather a consequence of bureaucratic hurdles and slowness. “We are in a peacetime mood with all these processes,” he said.

Except Europeans are expected to foot the bill of rebuilding Ukraine, is that unnecessary cost going to take a decade to see fruition. No, Europe is expected to pay, pay big and pay fast. Europe needs to rather invest in a full rearmament, not waste a trillion euros on rebuilding something the EU never broke. Let UK, France, China, Russia and US foot the bill for this war. They are the self appointed rulers of the globe in the post-WWII era, the permanent members of the security council. Either disband the permanent members of the security council or pay for this war under their watch. A US only no fly zone would have ended the conflict in days. Putin is not stupid, Russia would not nuke the USA. US could mop up Russian forces in Ukraine within months, if not weeks.

Russia starts a war with Ukraine to get at Europe, to collapse the EU and NATO Europe, and the EU is expected to pay the trillion to rebuild which would nearly bankrupt Europe. Have China and Russia pay, along with USA. China has loads of money, supported Russia, have China rebuild at low costs, they build cities in China with high speed rail and modern living fast and on the cheap. If France and UK want to stay at the UN security council, have both pay. How about this, Europe pays the full cost of rebuilding if the permanent members of the UN Security Council to prevent wars are instead: Germany, Italy, Spain, Sweden, and Poland as the rulers of the globe in the UN security council as the only permanent members. Ukraine was shafted with lies twice in agreements the US/Russia signed off on, this war happened under China, Russia, France, UK and US watch, let them pay, or be replaced.

Europe Expects to Pay Bulk of Ukraine’s Reconstruction Costs​


True cost could be over 1 trillion euros.

A trillion-dollar opportunity? Rebuilding Ukraine will mean giant investments and potential big payoffs, say economists adding up the costs​


This is what 1 trillion in weapons would get Europe with economies of scale and low margins for corporations:

Would you rather have Europe safe for the next 100 years with weapons to defend Europe or pay for rebuilding something that you did not break.

Cost of a huge European Grand Rearmament.

Some of these companies are no longer in business, so production would shift to ones that are. Older weapons would be modernized and produced.

These prices are based on economies of scale. Highly mass produced in large quantities to get the lowest prices. Leopard 2 Tanks cost over 15 million each, these are priced at 10 million each. If the European arms industry throws a hissy fit over unfeasible at these low prices, you divide by 2. According to Indian sources, K9 Thunders cost half of the PzH 2000. Germany has to keep the same quality as the K9 thunder, and getting below that price range too with sheer number of orders. You have to make these as you do consumer products, high quality, yet relatively inexpensive and quickly made.

Towed artillery should not cost more than 1 million eueos each when you are making thousands of them in huge factories for quickest production at lowest cost. Tanks and IFV, should not cost more than 5-10 million euros for the expensive tanks. The more inflation occurs, the higher the prices, so start making them now during low economic global growth, saves you hundreds of billions later.

None of this arms industry price gouging during a rearmament:

Assad's review team found the government will pay TransDigm $119 million for parts that should cost $28 million.


If tanks are going to cost 20 million euros each, instead of under 10 million euros, then skip that defense contractor and go with more anti-tank weapons, artillery and ammo.

Many nations partaking in a European grand rearmament of 2.5 million soldiers to defend Europe.

Greece:

50.000 Handguns HK USP or updated
125.000 Submachine guns HK MP5 or updated
50.000 assault rifles AOR M21
75.000 machine guns FN Minimi and various types
25.000 sniper Kefefs
and corresponding ammo

5.000 modernized M6C-210 mortar
and ammo

5.000 modernized version of M2 Carl-Gustav
and ammo

2.500 Leopard 2A6 HEL

2.500 Leonidas II APC

Costing 30 billion euros in equipment and ammo



Estonia and Latvia and Lithuania:

Mortars
Ammo
UAVs
EW Anti-drone systems

Costing 2 billion euros



Finland:

100.000 7.62 RK 95 TP Assault rifles
15.000 sniper rifles
100.000 light machine guns
and ammo

5.000 Protolab Misu APC
5.000 Patria 6×6 APC

5.000 155 K 83 Howitzers
1.500 155 GH 52 APU Howitzers
and ammo

100.000 81 KRH 71 Y Mortars
10.000 120 KRH 92 Mortars
25.000 81 KRH 96 Mortars
and ammo

250 AMOS Mortars

5.000 modernized 95 S 58-61 anti-tank for city defenses and urban warfare

500.000 hand grenades

8 billion euros



Sweden:

100.000 Ak 5 assault rifles
and ammo

15.000 anti-tank weapons of various kinds
and ammo

5.000 BvS 10

5.000 Patria AMV APC
5.000 Combat Vehicle 90
5.000 Stridsvagn 122 tanks

25.000 M/41D mortars

2.500 Archer Artillery System

125 LVRBS 98 / IRIS-T SLS/ anti-drone/ADS

125 billion



Poland:

150.000 handguns
125.000 sub-machine guns
250.000 assault rifles
50.000 sniper rifles
50.000 machine guns
50.000 heavy machine guns
and ammo

500.000 grenades

50.000 grenade launchers
and ammo

25.000 LMP-2017 mortars
50.000 M-98 mortars
and ammo

5.000 PPZR Grom MANPAD
5.000 Piorun MANPAD
and ammo

500 K2 Black Panther

1.250 Leopard 2PL

2.500 PT-91 Twardy

1.500 K9 Thunder
1.500 Krab Howitzer
and ammo

5.000 WR-40 Langusta rocket launcher
and ammo

5.000 BWP Borsuk IFV
5.000 KTO Rosomak IFV

5.000 KTO Rosomak APC

250 Hibneryt ADS
250 Poprad ADS
50 Narew ADS

65 billion


Romania:

25.000 Pistol model 2000
125.000 PA md. 86 assault rife
100.000 PM md. 93 machine guns
50.000 Mitraliera md. 66
5.000 PSL sniper
and ammo

500.000 grenades

500 modernized TR-85 tanks

5.000 MLI-84M IFV

15 billion



Bulgaria:

5.000 handguns
25.000 assault rifles
25.000 machine guns
5.000 sniper rifles
and ammo

5.000 RPG-7 RPG-22 RPG/anti-tank systems
25.000 9K111 anti-tank
and ammo

10.000 M8 Mortar
15.000 M6-211 Mortar
and ammo

5.000 UBGL-M7 grenade launcher

5 billion



Austria:
1.250.000 Glock 26
150.000 StG 77 assault rifles
125.000 mSSG Steyr 08A2 sniper rifles
100.000 MG 74 machine guns
and ammo

2.500 Madritsch Weapon Technology ML40 grenade launcher

75.000 12 cm GrW 86 mortars
and ammo

3 billion


Czech:

5.000 CZ 75 SP-01 Phantom pistol
100.000 CZ BREN 2 assault rifles
25.000 CZ BREN 2 PPS rifles
50.000 PDW Škorpion EVO 3 submachine gun
25.000 FN MAG machine guns
10.000 sniper rifle
and ammo

25.000 CZ 805 G1 grenade launchers

5.000 modern RN-70s rocket artillery

25.000 ANTOS 60mm mortars
and ammo

5.000 RPG-75 anti-tank

500 T-72M4CZ tanks
5.000 Pandur II IFV

155mm ammo

30 billion


Slovakia:

50.000 Mortar vz.97
and ammo

5.000 Patria AMV

5.000 155 mm SpGH Zuzana howitzers
and ammo

25 billion euros


Germany:

500.000 pistols
250.000 submachine guns
500.000 assault rifle
500.000 machine guns
100.000 sniper rifles
and ammo

200.000 grenade launchers
150.000 RPGs
10.000 MELLS Spike-LR anti-tank

2.500 Leopard 2
2.500 PUMA IFV
2.500 modernized Wiesel 2 AWC/air defense/anti-tank/etc

2.500 PzH 2000
500 M120 Mortar

10.000s of drones of various sorts

5.000 Anti-drone/ADS/Anti-artillery systems (mostly the cheaper equipment - Gepards, also laser weapons, IRIS, etc) most of these ordered and paid for in the latter years, when systems are evaluated and the best are selected.

The production has to be streamlined in factories to make these as inexpensive as possible.

300 billion


Italy:

250.000 handguns
250.000 battle/assault rifles
100.000 grande launcher
5.000 shotguns for urban warfare/MPs
100.000 light machine guns
and ammo

2.500 Ariete tanks
1.500 Centauro II tank destroyers
5.000 Dardo IFV

5.000 pak Mod 56 modernized howitzers for mountain terrain
25.000 modernized FH70 howitzers
and ammo

10.000s of drones

500 ADS

175 billion


France:

200.000 FAMAS F1 assault rifles
and ammo

20.000 Akeron MP anti-tank
and ammo

10.000 Mo 81 LLR F1 mortars
and ammo

1.000 CAESAR self-propelled howitzer
and ammo

anti-drone/ADS

20 billion


Spain

5.000 Santa Bárbara Sistemas 155/52
and ammo

10 billion



813 billion for rearmament of the EU, spent over 10 years.

Plus an additional 200 billion on nukes and ICBM production for European militaries

Total of 101-102 billion spent on average each year from 2024-2033, with more spending up front in factory expansions and orders.

Additional 20 billion per year earmarked for purchasing ammo.

Paid in part by a 3% EU VAT over 10 years. Leased weapons to EU nations based on proximity to Russia and population/military to support it.

When you leave the EU, you forfeit the army equipment to the EU, except nukes. Weapons cannot be sold or donated to non-EU member states.

Field a European Grand Army of 2.5 million+ soldiers, my estimates is an army of 4 million fighting soldiers+ with the equipment. 4000+ battalions. hundreds of thousands of mortars in reserve. Many hundreds of thousands of soldiers in support with supply and logistics. A trillion euros can buy the weapons for a 5 million man combined armed forces of Europe. This would prevent a war with Russia, especially the ICBM part.

Nations recommended to set up own reserve system to train on equipment.

Did some adding without a calculator, so could be off a bit:

425.75K mortars
13K tanks
27.5K IFV
~54.5K howitzers
10K rocket artillery
5.5K air defense systems (every battalion has a Gepard and more in reserve, only brought to the front after Russian use of drones, missiles against the unit)
30K APC

and nuclear ICBMs for 1 trillion dollars total. The same cost that "experts" say the price of rebuilding Ukraine is. With Europe paying for it. Would rather have Europe rearm.

Air/Navy Power and cruise missiles are funded at national level defense spending. EU members are advised to purchase Norwegian anti-drone and ADS systems.

Europe must be ready.

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That is pressure on international market not to trade in Rubel. That cant last long. China will enforce its market dominance and US will have to withdraw these un-warranted pressures on international market, else US market would hit further into inflationary drive. No single power can sustain such pressures.

In a recent meetup at kamra, group members discussed the success of russian S70 in air defence suppression and some long range precision strikes over Ukraine. Very impressive work.
the ruble is not freely convertible so its difficult to determine the real value. This time however it’s weakness has much to do with their unlimited friend China.
China is Russia’s largest trading partner. The Russians must pay in yuan for Chinese imports. Because the Chinese yuan weakens against the USD. as the result the ruble weakens against the USD too.
Russia’s main weakness lies in the structure of its economy. Putin makes Russia to a cheap gas station. 60 percent of Russians revenues come from selling oil and gas.

When oil and gas prices sinking then Russia is in trouble, the ruble in trouble.
 
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Mighty nato air def has as usual interception rates of 111%.


With subs:


These 4 cruise missiles alone delivered 2 tons of paylod to the targets. And the whole strike this night involved dozen of cruise missiles, including Kh-22/32 with up to 1 ton payload, so the total payload delivered were somewhere around 30-50t or so.


But lunatics like this @FourMikeEcho are virtually masturbating here about 1-2 tiny drones with few kg payloads reaching moscow. Complete disconnection from reality.
Don’t humiliate yourself with foul language (or in this case fowl=chicken language) given Putin can’t protect the high rises, Rouble is worth less than a penny. Btw, why is it Putin’s spokesperson is not as cavalier as you , because they regard these attacks as Terrorist attacks and threaten to respond in kind. You are the only one on some drug high that is not aligned with your beloved Putin’s talk track

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Russia fires 60,000 shells per day
Thats a lot of shells to not make any progress, or aspirations of making progress. That sort of firepower just to hold what Russia has
 
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