Russia army's Su-34 bombers use Kh-35U stand off missiles to attack anti Assad army in Syria

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

If you don't have a information about the subject then why you post about it @undertakerwwefan

I don't give a damn which GPS they use. It's not my concern.

 

[Ultima Thule]

I don't give a damn which GPS they use. It's not my concern.

GPS is US navigation system, Russian has their GLONASS, whereas BeIDoU navigation is Chinese and EU has their own Galileo navigation system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeiDou_Navigation_Satellite_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)

i asked simple question that why Russian don't trust GLONASS for missiles guideness instead of GPS @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

GPS is US navigation system, Russian has their GLONASS, whereas BeIDoU navigation is Chinese and EU has their own Galileo navigation system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Positioning_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLONASS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BeiDou_Navigation_Satellite_System
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_(satellite_navigation)

i asked simple question that why Russian don't trust GLONASS for missiles guideness instead of GPS @undertakerwwefan

I don't know what they use. Maybe they use Beidou satellite navigation. Who knows?

 

[Ultima Thule]

I don't know what they use. Maybe they use Beidou satellite navigation. Who knows?

I don't know what they use. Maybe they use Beidou satellite navigation. Who knows?

No country can ravel military frequency signals to other country and your previous post in last page clearly said that KU-35U ios guided by GPS, don't lie yourself @undertakerwwefan

 

[Signalian]

@undertakerwwefan @pakistanipower

There is term called GNSS (Global Navigation satellite System).

USA uses GPS which is operational based on GNSS.
Russia uses GLONASS which is operational based on GNSS.
China uses BEIDOU which is operational based on GNSS.

So Russia DOES NOT use GLONASS GPS..... Russia uses GLONASS G N S S !

 

[Ultima Thule]

@undertakerwwefan @pakistanipower

There is term called GNSS (Global Navigation satellite System).

USA uses GPS which is operational based on GNSS.
Russia uses GLONASS which is operational based on GNSS.
China uses BEIDOU which is operational based on GNSS.

So Russia DOES NOT use GLONASS GPS..... Russia uses GLONASS G N S S !

No, as @undertakerwwefan post earlier that Russia doesn't use GLONASS but GPS, i know both system concepts are same but real question is that Why Russia doesn't uses GLONASS instead of GPS @Signalian

 

[Signalian]

No, as @undertakerwwefan post earlier that Russia doesn't use GLONASS but GPS, i know both system concepts are same but real question is that Why Russia doesn't uses GLONASS instead of GPS @Signalian

He may have lost with you on this Game of words...GPS/GLONASS...when he should have been saying GNSS instead of GPS.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

He may have lost with you on this Game of words...GPS/GLONASS...when he should have been saying GNSS instead of GPS.

GPS, GLONASS, Beidou, Galileo are all satellite navigation. Why you worry about all the tiny little details man?

 

[Signalian]

GPS, GLONASS, Beidou, Galileo are all satellite navigation. Why you worry about all the tiny little details man?

Thousands of people read PDF everyday. A lot of information is shared between members.

The details which seem ignoble for you have generated a 2-Page useless conversation over a simple term between you and another member. My POV is to give information and move on, not dwell on it neither drag it on multiple pages, something that you and another member have failed to do so. Squabbling over one technical term is wastage of time and space, creates a negative atmosphere and gives the reader a headache.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Thousands of people read PDF everyday. A lot of information is shared between members.

The details which seem ignoble for you have generated a 2-Page useless conversation over a simple term between you and another member. My POV is to give information and move on, not dwell on it neither drag it on multiple pages, something that you and another member have failed to do so. Squabbling over one technical term is wastage of time and space, creates a negative atmosphere and gives the reader a headache.

Whoa whoa whoa. I'm not a obsessive over details. I'm a general man. This @pakistanipower is a renowned Russia hater who bashes Russia not using GLONASS without a shred of evidence.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

No, as @undertakerwwefan post earlier that Russia doesn't use GLONASS but GPS, i know both system concepts are same but real question is that Why Russia doesn't uses GLONASS instead of GPS @Signalian

A very simple reason...
Satellites are required at Geostationary Orbits.

What is a Geostationary Orbit?
A geosynchronous orbit is a high Earth orbit that allows satellites to match Earth's rotation. Located at 22,236 miles (35,786 kilometers) above Earth's equator, this position is a valuable spot for monitoring weather, communications and surveillance.
At geosynchronous orbit, however, the orbital period of the satellite matches the orbit of the Earth (roughly 24 hours), and the satellite appears virtually still over one spot; it stays at the same longitude, but its orbit may be tilted, or inclined, a few degrees north or south.

What are the benefits of Geostationary Orbits?
A satellite in geosynchronous orbit can see one spot of the planet almost all of the time. For Earth observation, this allows the satellite to look at how much a region changes over months or years. The drawback is the satellite is limited to a small parcel of ground; if a natural disaster happens elsewhere, for example, the satellite won't be able to move there due to fuel requirements.

This is a large benefit for the military. If, for example, the United States is concerned about activities in a certain region of the world — or it wants to see how its troops are doing — a geosynchronous orbit allows constant pictures and other surveillance of one particular region. An example of this is the United States' SATCOM 5, which launched in 2013. Joining a "constellation" of four other WGS satellites, it extends the military's communications system to provide blanket coverage over virtually the entire planet. The network serves troops, ships, drones and civilian leaders and is supposed to provide communications for ground personnel.

is There a limit on how many satellites can be in a Geostationary Orbit?
YES
At geosynchronous orbit, the “ring” around Earth can accommodate a number of satellites — 1,800 altogether . So far 400 Satellite slots are occupied. These slots are available to all the countries of the world. Pakistan was allowed 4 slots however Pakistan was striped of 2 slots as she could not occupy them. The PAKSAT & PAKSAT-1, are pakistan weather and communication satellites.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Whoa whoa whoa. I'm not a obsessive over details. I'm a general man. This @pakistanipower is a renowned Russia hater who bashes Russia not using GLONASS without a shred of evidence.

I am not Russia hater you just assuming that i am neutral guy, your previous post in last page clearly said that Kh-35u had been guided by GPS instead GLONASS, then why you give your false claims that Kh-35U is guided by GPS,if you didn't know nothing than keep filthy mouth shut and don't bark like a mad dog, if i am Russian hater than you're USA hater @undertakerwwefan

 

[Ultima Thule]

A very simple reason...
Satellites are required at Geostationary Orbits.

What is a Geostationary Orbit?
A geosynchronous orbit is a high Earth orbit that allows satellites to match Earth's rotation. Located at 22,236 miles (35,786 kilometers) above Earth's equator, this position is a valuable spot for monitoring weather, communications and surveillance.
At geosynchronous orbit, however, the orbital period of the satellite matches the orbit of the Earth (roughly 24 hours), and the satellite appears virtually still over one spot; it stays at the same longitude, but its orbit may be tilted, or inclined, a few degrees north or south.

What are the benefits of Geostationary Orbits?
A satellite in geosynchronous orbit can see one spot of the planet almost all of the time. For Earth observation, this allows the satellite to look at how much a region changes over months or years. The drawback is the satellite is limited to a small parcel of ground; if a natural disaster happens elsewhere, for example, the satellite won't be able to move there due to fuel requirements.

This is a large benefit for the military. If, for example, the United States is concerned about activities in a certain region of the world — or it wants to see how its troops are doing — a geosynchronous orbit allows constant pictures and other surveillance of one particular region. An example of this is the United States' SATCOM 5, which launched in 2013. Joining a "constellation" of four other WGS satellites, it extends the military's communications system to provide blanket coverage over virtually the entire planet. The network serves troops, ships, drones and civilian leaders and is supposed to provide communications for ground personnel.

is There a limit on how many satellites can be in a Geostationary Orbit?
YES
At geosynchronous orbit, the “ring” around Earth can accommodate a number of satellites — 1,800 altogether . So far 400 Satellite slots are occupied. These slots are available to all the countries of the world. Pakistan was allowed 4 slots however Pakistan was striped of 2 slots as she could not occupy them. The PAKSAT & PAKSAT-1, are pakistan weather and communication satellites.

I know everything about orbits of GPS and other global navigation system, the main question is that why Russian don't use GLONASS instead of GPS to guide their standoff missile to the target as per @undertakerwwefan claims on 1st page of this thread @ACE OF THE AIR

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

I know everything about orbits of GPS and other global navigation system, the main question is that why Russian don't use GLONASS instead of GPS to guide their standoff missile to the target as per @undertakerwwefan claims on 1st page of this thread @ACE OF THE AIR

1. The question is how many Russian GLONASS satellites are operational?
2. If they are positioned in those locations where the Russians are operating?
3. What is the cost of using GLONASS as compared to US made GPS?

Now there can also be an other reason for not using GLONASS but using GPS to test weapons systems, which is reliability.

 

[50cent]

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