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What that was fake?
Rumors: Finally AH-1Z are coming
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After taking a good look at the pic @airomerix posted it doesn't look fake to me bro.
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@airomerix Is this news fake?
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I did a search on helicopter serial. Ended up with this good info. Nothing is confirmed, lot of rumors and possibly fake pics.
The helicopters were ready for delivery when the U.S. embargoed sale and transfer to Pakistan.
Two AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters were spotted at Amarillo, Texas, last week. The choppers, serialled 786-064 and 786-066, made a stop at the base where our reader and friend Rodney Bastow photographed them on Jul. 19, 2019. What’s really interesting is the fact that the original “Pakistan Army” markings on the helicopters were partly covered with the word “Pakistan” blacked out.
The Vipers belong to the first batch of AH-1Z helicopters destined to Pakistan Army and were probably on their way from NAS Patuxent River (where they were reportedly stored) to the 309th Aerospace Maintenance And Regeneration Group (AMARG), in Tucson, Arizona, to join the nine helicopters already stored there (examples 786-061, 062, 063, 067, 068, 069, 070, 071, and 072, according to Scramble).
AH-1Z Viper 786-064. (All images: Rodney Bastow)
All the Pakistan Army helicopters will be cocooned, using “spraylat” (a white, opaque, high-tech vinyl plastic compound sprayed) that will protect the airframes and keep the interior temperatures within 15° C: U.S. State Department had approved the sale of 15 AH-1Z Viper to the Pakistan Army along with 1,000 AGM-114R Hellfire II laser-guided air-to-surface missiles in April 2015. The first out of 12 ordered helicopters carried out flight testing from Bell Helicopter Amarillo Assembly Center, Texas, in December 2017.
The Pakistan Army planned to use the AH-1Z to replace its AH-1F/S Cobra attack helicopters, extensively used in CAS (Close Air Support) role as part of Pakistan’s counterinsurgency (COIN) campaign in its northwest regions. The AH-1Z is heavier and better equipped than the AH-1F/S: it carries Lockheed Martin AN/AAQ-30 Target Sight System electro-optical and infrared (EO/IR) pods, Thales TopOwl helmet-mounted display (HMD), BAE AN/ALE-47 chaff/flare countermeasure dispensers, Northrop AN/APR-39C(v2) radar warning receivers (RWR) and Orbital ATK AN/AAR-47 missile warning receivers.
A close up view of the AH-1Z originally destined to the Pakistan Army.
In August 2017, the U.S. announced the first freeze of military aid to Pakistan. At the time, Bell had just transferred the first two Vipers to the U.S. government for delivery to Pakistan via the FMS (Foreign Military Sales) program and additional helicopters were already on the production line. In June 2018, the sale and transfer of AH-1Z helicopters were embargoed. All the 12 AH-1Z will remain at the “boneyard” in Tucson until a decision on their fate is taken.
The helicopters were ready for delivery when the U.S. embargoed sale and transfer to Pakistan.
Two AH-1Z Viper attack helicopters were spotted at Amarillo, Texas, last week. The choppers, serialled 786-064 and 786-066, made a stop at the base where our reader and friend Rodney Bastow photographed them on Jul. 19, 2019. What’s really interesting is the fact that the original “Pakistan Army” markings on the helicopters were partly covered with the word “Pakistan” blacked out.
The Vipers belong to the first batch of AH-1Z helicopters destined to Pakistan Army and were probably on their way from NAS Patuxent River (where they were reportedly stored) to the 309th Aerospace Maintenance And Regeneration Group (AMARG), in Tucson, Arizona, to join the nine helicopters already stored there (examples 786-061, 062, 063, 067, 068, 069, 070, 071, and 072, according to Scramble).
AH-1Z Viper 786-064. (All images: Rodney Bastow)
All the Pakistan Army helicopters will be cocooned, using “spraylat” (a white, opaque, high-tech vinyl plastic compound sprayed) that will protect the airframes and keep the interior temperatures within 15° C: U.S. State Department had approved the sale of 15 AH-1Z Viper to the Pakistan Army along with 1,000 AGM-114R Hellfire II laser-guided air-to-surface missiles in April 2015. The first out of 12 ordered helicopters carried out flight testing from Bell Helicopter Amarillo Assembly Center, Texas, in December 2017.
The Pakistan Army planned to use the AH-1Z to replace its AH-1F/S Cobra attack helicopters, extensively used in CAS (Close Air Support) role as part of Pakistan’s counterinsurgency (COIN) campaign in its northwest regions. The AH-1Z is heavier and better equipped than the AH-1F/S: it carries Lockheed Martin AN/AAQ-30 Target Sight System electro-optical and infrared (EO/IR) pods, Thales TopOwl helmet-mounted display (HMD), BAE AN/ALE-47 chaff/flare countermeasure dispensers, Northrop AN/APR-39C(v2) radar warning receivers (RWR) and Orbital ATK AN/AAR-47 missile warning receivers.
A close up view of the AH-1Z originally destined to the Pakistan Army.
In August 2017, the U.S. announced the first freeze of military aid to Pakistan. At the time, Bell had just transferred the first two Vipers to the U.S. government for delivery to Pakistan via the FMS (Foreign Military Sales) program and additional helicopters were already on the production line. In June 2018, the sale and transfer of AH-1Z helicopters were embargoed. All the 12 AH-1Z will remain at the “boneyard” in Tucson until a decision on their fate is taken.
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Pilot uniform was American. The heli pic was superimposed on a Pakistani city
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To crush one's hopes, you must first raise them very high
Nope, it wouldn't be in flyable condition
It's American uniform, literally a straight cut and paste photoshop job
Also Americans would never ship US attack helicopter in a Russian cargo plane
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Agreed.
Nah, it does not matter. It is PAF property & we are using it. Russia has nothing to do with it.
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There arent coming, rather they will never come...
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All these rumor threads going around. Pakistanis need to understand, India is America's ally in the Indo-Pacific region and has a budding relationship with Australia. America will not do anything that displeases India. The only exception is if India needs to be disciplined for something. The first step would be to start rumors about delivery of offensive weapons to its arch nemesis Pakistan. If this doesn't change India's behavior, then we might see limited actual deliveries as step 2.
The larger discussion should be to identify what behavioral change America wants to bring in India? And do we Pakistanis have such a low self-esteem and low prestige that we let America use us like a pawn to attain its own geo-political objectives? Are we going to accept morsels of 1/2 helis released like a master throwing coins at a slave?
The larger discussion should be to identify what behavioral change America wants to bring in India? And do we Pakistanis have such a low self-esteem and low prestige that we let America use us like a pawn to attain its own geo-political objectives? Are we going to accept morsels of 1/2 helis released like a master throwing coins at a slave?
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