AH-1Z Viper Attack Helicopters Spotted in Amarillo, Texas, With Blacked Out Pakistan Markings

[Basel]

Pak Ah 1F cobras according to Usman Shabbir will get turkish upgrades like Jorden has them.

What upgrades package they will get??

doesnt make sense..how can you upgrade your previous cobras..than get same no. of turkish choppers and also end up with Chinese or Russian choppers

are we going to fight the rafale with gunships?

Nope its about dealing with IA's cold start a type attack, gunships will play important role with other assets in halting any rapid thrust from IA.

 

[ziaulislam]

What upgrades package they will get??



Nope its about dealing with IA's cold start a type attack, gunships will play important role with other assets in halting any rapid thrust from IA.

what if IAF gets involved, with poor position PAF is in, do you think zulus, cobras, apaches or anything else stand a chance....

do you think cold start has a chance if a stand off glide GPS guided cluster bomb is dropped from 60km range? even if its not the sensor fuse weapon?..tanks stood no chance in Libya to brimstone all fired from typhoon or tornados

 

[FuturePAF]

what if IAF gets involved, with poor position PAF is in, do you think zulus, cobras, apaches or anything else stand a chance....

do you think cold start has a chance if a stand off glide GPS guided cluster bomb is dropped from 60km range? even if its not the sensor fuse weapon?..tanks stood no chance in Libya to brimstone all fired from typhoon or tornados

Any Chance the PAF could get the sensor Fuzed weapon for its F-16s? Even a few 100s of these weapons on the JSOW could be seen as stabilizing the strategic balance, and prevent commanders going for the NASR.

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/how-dumb-cluster-bombs-got-heinously-smart-1673486769

 

[Thorough Pro]

What is the basis of your statement "with poor position PAF is in"?

what if IAF gets involved, with poor position PAF is in, do you think zulus, cobras, apaches or anything else stand a chance....

do you think cold start has a chance if a stand off glide GPS guided cluster bomb is dropped from 60km range? even if its not the sensor fuse weapon?..tanks stood no chance in Libya to brimstone all fired from typhoon or tornados

 

[Basel]

what if IAF gets involved, with poor position PAF is in, do you think zulus, cobras, apaches or anything else stand a chance....

do you think cold start has a chance if a stand off glide GPS guided cluster bomb is dropped from 60km range? even if its not the sensor fuse weapon?..tanks stood no chance in Libya to brimstone all fired from typhoon or tornados

Its not as easy as keyboard warriors think for India, there are tactics employed from both sides to counter each other, in NCW environment Pakistan can deploy gunships with UCAVs and other assets even without PAF, PA can hold its ground its not walk in a park for India in case of war.

 

[ice_man]

We never seem to learn since 1990s. We pay for weapons to USA they embargo it. Keep it for 5 or 10 years and then ask a favor and then give us what was actually ours from day 1. sad and shameful.

Same happened to the F16s bought in 1990 that were embargoed and in the end they gave us wheat instead of the planes! and you could go back to 1960s when the f86 parts were embargoed!

 

[Dazzler]

We never seem to learn since 1990s. We pay for weapons to USA they embargo it. Keep it for 5 or 10 years and then ask a favor and then give us what was actually ours from day 1. sad and shameful.

Same happened to the F16s bought in 1990 that were embargoed and in the end they gave us wheat instead of the planes! and you could go back to 1960s when the f86 parts were embargoed!

We didnt pay a penny for Vipers, they were paid by FMS funding.

 

[Englishman]

We never seem to learn since 1990s. We pay for weapons to USA they embargo it. Keep it for 5 or 10 years and then ask a favor and then give us what was actually ours from day 1. sad and shameful.

Same happened to the F16s bought in 1990 that were embargoed and in the end they gave us wheat instead of the planes! and you could go back to 1960s when the f86 parts were embargoed!

Its was an American weapon that gave you superiority in February.

Perhaps you should just put up with the bull crap that comes with it? Long term benefits are greater.

 

[ziaulislam]

Its not as easy as keyboard warriors think for India, there are tactics employed from both sides to counter each other, in NCW environment Pakistan can deploy gunships with UCAVs and other assets even without PAF, PA can hold its ground its not walk in a park for India in case of war.

OK ..i mean if Pakistan can deploy gunships safely in presence of active IAF than its good deal..may be current gunships can hide from awecs or even fighters modern look down AESA radars..may be they have good jamers to jam any incoming BVRs...and are better equip to evade short to medium range SAMs in indian army cores..

We didnt pay a penny for Vipers, they were paid by FMS funding.

Wrong we paid full in 1990s
Just in Early 2000s FMS was used partially for upgrades for use in antiterror

 

[Basel]

OK ..i mean if Pakistan can deploy gunships safely in presence of active IAF than its good deal..may be current gunships can hide from awecs or even fighters modern look down AESA radars..may be they have good jamers to jam any incoming BVRs...and are better equip to evade short to medium range SAMs in indian army cores..


Wrong we paid full in 1990s
Just in Early 2000s FMS was used partially for upgrades for use in antiterror

PA will also deploy EW assets as they know how important they are now in future wars.

Pakistan is looking into suicide drones (including stealth ones) along with loitering munitions.

 

[Dazzler]

OK ..i mean if Pakistan can deploy gunships safely in presence of active IAF than its good deal..may be current gunships can hide from awecs or even fighters modern look down AESA radars..may be they have good jamers to jam any incoming BVRs...and are better equip to evade short to medium range SAMs in indian army cores..


Wrong we paid full in 1990s
Just in Early 2000s FMS was used partially for upgrades for use in antiterror

FMS was used for AH-1Z Vipers, you mistook the response for F-16 vipers.

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

Pak Ah 1F cobras according to Usman Shabbir will get turkish upgrades like Jorden has them.

Türkiye was modernized the Cobra of Bahrain, not Jordan

 

[Path-Finder]

Any Chance the PAF could get the sensor Fuzed weapon for its F-16s? Even a few 100s of these weapons on the JSOW could be seen as stabilizing the strategic balance, and prevent commanders going for the NASR.

https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/how-dumb-cluster-bombs-got-heinously-smart-1673486769

China has developed sensor fuzed smart ammo, so it can be obtained from them instead of the yanks.

 

[maximuswarrior]

Its was an American weapon that gave you superiority in February.

Perhaps you should just put up with the bull crap that comes with it? Long term benefits are greater.

It wasn't. It was JF-17. This myth has been debunked countless times by PAF which is the ultimate authority.

As for the news itself, I am very joyous. Pak US relations will improve as long as Trump remains in the WH. We support Trump's sincere efforts to bring peace to Afghanistan.

 

[Imran Khan]

haan bhi jawanoo a gaay tumhary zulu ?