Rs 10,500 cr remitted by Christian missionaries: Why is opposition mum?

[axisofevil]

@takeiteasy @seiko @axisofevil @Soulspeek @jbgt90 @abjktu @Abotani @sarjenprabhu @Infinity

I am.

 

[axisofevil]

Hindutva is not a religious philosophy. They were converted to hinduism. Hence illegal. These folks are converting people to Christianity. Hence legal.

So converting to hinduism is illegal?

 

[Marxist]

@takeiteasy @seiko @axisofevil @Soulspeek @jbgt90 @abjktu @Abotani @sarjenprabhu @Infinity

add @gslvmk3 @Guynextdoor2 @shingamani @Koovie

 

[Soulspeek]

TBH those Christian majority states in North-east don't contribute anything to the centre. They are dependent on mainland India. They migrate everywhere in search of jobs. They think they are better than mainland Indians. They are not patriotic. They loyal to the Christian west.Their tribal mindset and customs like canbalism and eating dogs,cats and rodents is disgusting. Even if they seperate(they already started a seperatist movement in the past), India wouldn't be affected.

I wouldn't give a damn. It would be good riddance instead imo.

Hahaha..... Those North Easterners have a unique tribal identity. Similarly the Tribals of Bustar, Chattisgarh etc also have their unique identity. If India start following you and secede then geographically it would be restricted Cowbelt+Maharashtha maybe. India is not just hindi speaking people. Even Hindus of different states have strong cultural identities of theirs. It would be very difficult to bind them together as a nation then.

India is like a pearl necklace. Till the time it is bound together by the thread of Unity and communal harmony till then it is good else it will not take time for all pearls to scatter about.

So I would request you not to be devil's advocate.

 

[Kuttuvan]

Before that i want to covert to Hinduism......... By the by 2 lakh is too less why Discrimination against us (Against Constitution) Hike it equal to Muslims............Pay me 5 lakhs.(2 lack bhi cheelga)

bhaiya, 5 lakhs is for Muslims only.You cross wearers better convert to Islam first and then to Hinduism.so you can get that amount...simple..

 

[Marxist]

You're brain works UPSIDE DOWN man. You first get a reliable source and the discuss the issue. This isn't an issue that should be discussed until you put up a credible source.



I have no doubts that there are some Christian missionary workers who are a pain in the @$$. But I do question the scale of the money being quoted- according to our resident scholar on missionary work @Marxist and his looney friends at Niti Central it is upwards of $2.5 B every year. Now since they don't know how to count/ understand the importance of zeros they'll probably add another 3 zeros and make it bigger than the GDP of India.

I challenged you to prove it wrong instead of that you continue with your usual rants ....This is from DNA report ( Foreign funds: TN, Chennai get the most, Gospel of Asia biggest donor | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis ) ,if you want more details check Rajya sabha question number 199 (18/12/2013) and FCRA report by MHA

 

[Kuttuvan]

So converting to hinduism is illegal?

Anything related anywhere nearer to Hinduism is purely legal and far from questioning..If any sanghi says 2+2=0 tomorrow..admit and move on...

 

[vsdave2302]

Yesterday Amit shah told that we offerred to bring an anti conversion law but nobody is interested. They simply wants to play politics. Actually they are very happy if the hindu is converted because that add to their vote bank. Their whine is because of the shrinkage of their vote bank and nothing else. Last year more that 4000 cr was confiscated from a christian congress leader from Kerala. The money had come for conversion.

 

[Marxist]

People like @Guynextdoor2 always live in denial ,I know him When i posted a similar news in an indian forum he came up with this same silly argument
Will you term this as also Niti central or Subramanyam swami's propaganda

The Buck Stops Here : Investigation - India Today

Evangelical Christianity: Devils in high places | Latest News & Updates at Daily News & Analysis

Independent churches mushroom across India attracting foreign funds : The Big Story - India Today

Foreign funds to NGOs: Why better scrutiny is needed - Rediff.com Business

and from Gospel of seculars in india Tehelka

Tehelka - The People's Paper

 

[axisofevil]

India's identity is Indic religions. Factually and historically speaking Christians were pro-British rule and helped to lenghten their stay.

They don't try to hide their love for the west. If you love them so much then you should be with them.

Thats not true. But what would you know since you are Pakistani?

 

[ranjeet]

How dare India question the soul harvesting? It is guaranteed under Section 25 of the constitution.

 

[JanjaWeed]

Now that the opposition has decided to bring up the issue of re-conversions, it would also do well if it debated at length the inflow of money amounting to Rs 10,500 crore that is pumped in every year to Christian missionaries to convert people.

As has been noted by Phillip Goldberg, the author of American Veda it is not conversion but coercion that is taking this clearly driving the point that people are forced for the numbers and not for the faith.

NGO money

In the year 2011 it was found by various agencies that an illicit in flow of money had come into India with an intent of ‎funding conversions. All this money landed into the coffers of various NGOs. There was a considerable amount of money which had no accounting and when the records were checked it was marked under the miscellaneous column.

None of the NGOs had a suitable answer to this and barring a few protests by them they have still not been able to satisfy the agencies that this money was not used for conversions/stage managed protests or money laundering.

A probe by Bangalore Initiative for Religious Dialogue

The Bangalore Initiative for Religious Dialogue (BIRD) had conducted a survey pertaining to religious conversions. It had found that there was an aggressive marketing strategy involved in conversions undertaken by evangelists.

They had noted that there was very aggressive marketing by some missionaries and they were using unethical means to convert. They dole out incentives and force conversions not for the sake of religion but for their own benefits. [Mayawati stands up against mass conversion in Uttar Pradesh in the name of BPL cards]

‎Tactics galore

‎Several reports relating to conversions suggest that the gullible are targeted. As Goldberg would say they are a new breed of zealots financed by the American fundamentalists. He also notes that some people are given jobs and told to convert.

If they refuse then they are threatened with job loss. In other instances it was found that some of them dressed up as Swamis and approached gullible people and said their Hindu Gods were the corrupt version of Christ.

Biggest donors are the missionaries

As per a report with the government the major donors to some of the NGOs in India are the Christian missionaries. ‎ An amount of Rs 10,500 crore has been remitted into the accounts of four NGOs notorious for conversions and in turn distributed to various conversion centres across the country the report states.

The inflow of money was from the USA, Germany, United Kingdom, Netherlands, Spain and Italy, the report also noted.

Too much money and clout

While speaking to one officer with the Intelligence Bureau he says that successive governments in the past have turned a blind eye. These missionaries have the money to shut the politician up.

Moreover they make it look like a suo motu conversion thus dodging the law which clearly states that only forced conversions are punishable. Moreover the lure of money is so high that not too many come forward and complain.

The IB officer also notes that for every 1,000 conversions there is one complaint. This is largely to do with the fact there is too much money at play and also these missionaries take advantage of extreme poverty conditions of people and play with their faith.

Rs 10,500 cr remitted by Christian missionaries: Why is opposition mum? - Oneindia

Shhhh good missionaries & bad missionaries & all that!

 

[Soulspeek]

If people are converting for the sake of money then let them be. We do not want such people in our community anyways.

What we absolutely object is FORCEFUL conversion. Bajrang Dal is hell bent on convesion by hook or crook. There are reports of Bajrang Dal goons intimidating such people.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

So converting to hinduism is illegal?

If people are converting for the sake of money then let them be.

Very smart, eh?

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

You mean to Australia, US and Europe?? Dude then everybody will try to become a missionary..

BTW, isnt there a law that foreign fund to NGO's should be given to the government and then government will distribute it? I read it somewhere during Koodamkulam protest..

Rs 10,500 crore ?? Why cant they send 1% of that money to me??

Christians arent eligible for it..
But I am :yes: