Rouhani calls on Erdoğan to take united stance against U.S. agresssion

[Ansu fati]

Halkbank is still targeted by the US Senate. Most important reason were the crude oil export to Turkey and India over Iran's Halkbank offshore accounts, in other words it is attempt to pierce the USA's unjust Iran embargo. The bank's USA operations chief executive, Hakan Atilla, was in prison for a long time because he refused the US prosecutor's request for an agreement. He stood upright heroically, and when he was released and returned to the country, he was made head of Istanbul Stock Exchange . In other words, a very clear message was given to the foreign investor.

I know the hypocrisy of the senate but I don’t know if they really want to sanction the hell out of Halkbank because at the end of the day all that money laundering was green lighted by obama so if they want to harm turkish economy then there’s no reason not to disclose obama’s involvement (they cause economic turmoil we give them political chaos in 2020 tit-for-tat)

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Don't spread lies and disinformation .iran was the country who opposed both attack on Iraq and Afghanistan. And don't let me write the list of the countries who supported twice invasions of Iraq and invasions of Afghanistan . don't let me again write the list of countries who gave their bases to USA and NATO for those invasion .
Be assured you will not like that list.

Release a list. No one is stopping you.

 

[zartosht]

I laugh and pity at all the morons who actually think Rouhani is asking a NATO country, who hosts US bases, and has their cock in an American vise grip that can be tightened at any second. for help against the americans...

how gullible and stupid do you guys think Iran really is? Turkey is just another American puppet with a slightly different flavor.

this is just normal diplomatic nice talk. all moozlim unite bla bla bla.. there is a wahabi cancer in the muslim world being fed by the Zionists/americans. whose sole purpose is to cause fitna and division amongst muslims. Untill this wahabi cancer in Riyadh remains, nothing will change.

and lastly for our Turkish friends. please do not flatter yourselves. if Iran wanted to help the kurds, it would have chopped your little nato puppet state into 2 alooooong time ago..

 

[Yankee-stani]

Those were Iranian Turks and have nothing to do with your country. Anyways, lets not forget that the whole Turko-Persian wars and rivalry started after Ottomans decided to invade Persia and failed. There were no rivalry between Ottoman and Persian Empire prior to Ottoman invasion. Dont act like you are innocent and we are traitors. You started the whole rivalry. You even invaded us from west when Russians invaded from North. Still you failed.

The Achaemenid Persian Empire ruled both east and west, it collapsed after Alexanders invasion. Alexanders Empire collapsed shortly after ruling east and west.

History teaches us it is impossible to rule and hold both the east and west. The Sassanian Persian Empire collapsed after decades of wars with Byzants. Persians tried to conquer Byzants in the west, Byzants tried to concqer Persians in the east. Both Empires were exhausted and when the Arabs invaded the Persian Empire it was a cakewalk because of decades with endless wars.

The Caliphate ruled east and west, the empire used a Persian model and had Persian bureaucrats, it collapsed after Persians revolted.

Ottoman Empire became vulnerable and collapsed after decades of war trying to invade the Persian Empire.

It is strategically impossible to hold and rule both the east and west.

Both Ottomans and Persians recognized this fact and signed the treaty of Chalderan.

Today Iran and Turkey may never become true allies, but we are not enemies, we are simply rivals.

I just thank god Iranians are not sectarian by nature, in the presence of war and distress. All minorities, religions rally behind the same Iranian flag. This have been proven countless times. If Turks of Iran revolt, Iran collapses. But thankfully during the Ottoman and Russian invasions. Turks of Iran proved their loyalty belongs to Iran.

Our only weaklink are the treacherous Kurds. But this is also a common problem in Turkey. If anything, Iran and Turkey need to work together on the Kurd issue, or we might face a bitter reality in the future.

Kurds are reproducing like crazy, and moving in to all Turkish cities in Iran. If something is not done, Turkey will not share a border with friendly Iranian Turks, they will share a border with hostile Kurds. The last thing we need is a unified Kurdish buffer state that links both Turkey and Iran.



I am from Western Azerbaijan, you are right that Azeris have a long history in politics and Iranian society. Iran have been ruled by Turkish dynasties longer than Persian ones. But Western Azerbaijan is not a rich province at all. We lack oil. We would not survive without support from the government. But Western Azerbaijan is probably the most important strategic location in Iran. If you manage to take control over Western Azerbaijan, you can invade the rest of Iran without difficulties. The richest province is Khuzestan, thats were all the oil comes from.

Interesting yes Khuzestan and Abadan is where the oil is actually really is near the borders with Iraq people outside of Iran are not aware certain regions of Iran have oil certain ones do not at all, what I meant if you look at the map Iran proper I meant its cultural center, economic centers and where the wealth is the western regions I mentioned Western Azerbaijan as a example because Azeris have long been part of the mosiac of ethnic groups Iranian Azeris have ruled Iran for centuries they are more Azeris in Iran than in Azerbaijan itself also Azeris have practically mixed in a lot with Persians to the point they are sorta of indistinguible from Persians besides Tehran population is like 25 percent Azeri and they make up a bulk of businessmen,govt officials as well so they are well integrated than lets say Balochis,Arabs or Kurds thats what I meant actually and part of reason why ties with Turkey,ex Soviet states that are Turkic are cordial at best

 

[dBSPL]

if Iran wanted to help the kurds, it would have chopped your little nato puppet state into 2 alooooong time ago..

Oh, another wet dreamer... Overly ambitious words for the citizens of a country that takes the revenge of a criminal general with hundreds of Iranian coffins. However, the truth is that IRGC's "holy jihad" only valid where can landed sectarian-terrorist-filled cargo planes. Iran not have any power to to mobilize masses in Turkey, for centuries. If Iran try violates this brotherhood rule, it will only be a complete siege. Within and without.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Oh, another wet dreamer... Overly ambitious words for the citizens of a country that takes the revenge of a criminal general with hundreds of Iranian coffins. However, the truth is that IRGC's "holy jihad" only valid where can landed sectarian-terrorist-filled cargo planes. Iran not have any power to to mobilize masses in Turkey, for centuries. If Iran try violates this brotherhood rule, it will only be a complete siege. Within and without.

Meh Turkey isnt any better yall too are hegemonic and power hungry as the Persians but for the Islamic world to be stable I would rather see Turkey and Iran manage it as a core and it looks like that will be the near future the Petro Arabs have been failure for the last 50 years

 

[Oublious]

I laugh and pity at all the morons who actually think Rouhani is asking a NATO country, who hosts US bases, and has their cock in an American vise grip that can be tightened at any second. for help against the americans...

how gullible and stupid do you guys think Iran really is? Turkey is just another American puppet with a slightly different flavor.

this is just normal diplomatic nice talk. all moozlim unite bla bla bla.. there is a wahabi cancer in the muslim world being fed by the Zionists/americans. whose sole purpose is to cause fitna and division amongst muslims. Untill this wahabi cancer in Riyadh remains, nothing will change.

and lastly for our Turkish friends. please do not flatter yourselves. if Iran wanted to help the kurds, it would have chopped your little nato puppet state into 2 alooooong time ago..

you have tried and you failed and come suck on Turkish. Look rohani is doing you can do it to...

 

[dBSPL]

Meh Turkey isnt any better yall too are hegemonic and power hungry as the Persians but for the Islamic world to be stable I would rather see Turkey and Iran manage it as a core and it looks like that will be the near future the Petro Arabs have been failure for the last 50 years

You are one of the emptyest talking young man I have seen in this forum. I was really tired of correcting what you wrote. You are the representative of a perception in the forum, which is based on unfounded claims without archive references or accepted academic studies. The majority of what you say about Turkish history is google experts bullshits with no academic validity. Therefore, I do not expect you to understand what its direction is, without understanding Turkish history. Please keep your distorted ideas to yourself.

 

[Yankee-stani]

You are one of the emptyest talking young people I have seen in this forum. I was really tired of correcting what you wrote. You are the representative of a perception in the forum, which is based on unfounded claims without archive references or accepted academic studies. The majority of what you say about Turkish history is google experts bullshits with no academic validity. Therefore, I do not expect you to understand what its direction is, without understanding Turkish history. Please keep your distorted ideas to yourself.

That's fine I understand where we might not be able to see eye to eye and I am not against the Turks what ever Ankara does is their voilation not mines but I will give my views good day

 

[zartosht]

Oh, another wet dreamer... Overly ambitious words for the citizens of a country that takes the revenge of a criminal general with hundreds of Iranian coffins. However, the truth is that IRGC's "holy jihad" only valid where can landed sectarian-terrorist-filled cargo planes. Iran not have any power to to mobilize masses in Turkey, for centuries. If Iran try violates this brotherhood rule, it will only be a complete siege. Within and without.

its been how many decades a NATO country with full access to western tech hasn't been able to defeat a bunch of lonely Kurdish rebels armed with sticks?

your not in the same league as Iran whent it comes to being a nation state. know your place. You don't have IRans energy security which would mean the entire Turkish nation would be back to the stone age walking if you ever got energy embargos.. energy embargos is what forced japan to attack the US, and what forced the germans to throw their best army at a heavily defended soviet village to gain access to azeri oil.... and lose the war.

in 1979 when IRan had no government. The central government lost control of the Kurdish, and some arab/balochi regions. It faced an all out invasion from a heavily supported IRaqi army. and it had no real standing army.

Iran put down every single one of those threats alone. while turkey is still chasing its tale trying to maintain constitutional order in its Kurdish terroritory. a weak pathetic state with their nuts in an American wise grip.


let me repeat. You are not in the same league as IRan. and if IRan ever wanted to arm the kurds. you would see Kurdish rebels slaughtering Turkish soldiers en masse and making the east a no go zone.

kurds would get flooded with ATGMs, High yield IEDs, anti-air assets, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, unlimited funding, training, safe zones, and much much more. I guarantee you if IRan wanted, it could create such a death trap for turks that even the word "kurd" would make you shake.

Turkey is useless. they cant even help their best friend Azerbaijan defeat tiny Armenia. If Azerbaijan was in Iranian ally instead, I guarantee you azeri flag would have been flying in Yerevan in their war . What exactly has turkey done that their people are so full of themselves?

 

[Yankee-stani]

its been how many decades a NATO country with full access to western tech hasn't been able to defeat a bunch of lonely Kurdish rebels armed with sticks?

your not in the same league as Iran whent it comes to being a nation state. know your place. You don't have IRans energy security which would mean the entire Turkish nation would be back to the stone age walking if you ever got energy embargos.. energy embargos is what forced japan to attack the US, and what forced the germans to throw their best army at a heavily defended soviet village to gain access to azeri oil.... and lose the war.

in 1979 when IRan had no government. The central government lost control of the Kurdish, and some arab/balochi regions. It faced an all out invasion from a heavily supported IRaqi army. and it had no real standing army.

Iran put down every single one of those threats alone. while turkey is still chasing its tale trying to maintain constitutional order in its Kurdish terroritory. a weak pathetic state with their nuts in an American wise grip.


let me repeat. You are not in the same league as IRan. and if IRan ever wanted to arm the kurds. you would see Kurdish rebels slaughtering Turkish soldiers en masse and making the east a no go zone.

kurds would get flooded with ATGMs, High yield IEDs, anti-air assets, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, unlimited funding, training, safe zones, and much much more. I guarantee you if IRan wanted, it could create such a death trap for turks that even the word "kurd" would make you shake.

Turkey is useless. they cant even help their best friend Azerbaijan defeat tiny Armenia. If Azerbaijan was in Iranian ally instead, I guarantee you azeri flag would have been flying in Yerevan in their war . What exactly has turkey done that their people are so full of themselves?

I dont even think Iran would want to support the Kurds that would be detrimental to their side of the border and regional interests tho in the 80s they were supporting Kurdish groups against Saddam but then again supporting Kurds come at the price they will always be a poodle for international superpowers be it the Soviets in the Cold War and Americans post 1991

 

[dBSPL]

Zartosht bro, You can not to collect even 100 people in Turkey for Iran's regional hegemonic ideals because of today's Iran's ideological position. Iran can support the PKK (not something it has not tried before) There are many actors in the region who have supported and still support this terrorist organization from Syria to Israel and from Russia to the USA. However, there are tens of thousands of people shouting Turan in Iran. You haven't experienced the same things yet. The Turkish state has never exploited this issue due to mutual respect and diplomatic practices. On the other hand, although there is no common state culture in Oghuz branches, our biggest responsibility to our fellow cognate people, not to throw them into the fire. I do not want to ruin this title with dozens of videos while we must give peace messages together.

There is no need for a pissing contest here,regarding the conventional or asymmetrical capacities of the two countries. I can not understand where you want to arrive in this topic, over such unrealistic approach like "wüü wüll divüdü yüü". No need to provoke any other. Turks are not favor of Iran's fall and will not. On the contrary, we believe that dialogue between Iran and Turkey has a very important role for peace in our region. However, do not forget that if you dream of a war; I assure you that if both sides start rolling a snowball, Iran's snowball will not grow faster. If Iran want to directly target Turkey, it would be one of the most wrong steps she can take. There is a natural balance mechanism in the middle. Disrupting this does not produce benefits for the two countries.

 

[zartosht]

I agree about there being a mutual respect factor between Iran and Turkey. Even when `we were openly fighting on different sides in the Syria war. it never spilled over into tensions between Iran and turkey.

we fought for hundreds of years, and eventually Russia came out winners... Iran and Turkey fighting means both of us will lose, and virtually everyone else will win. that's why Iran doesn't support kurds against turkey. and Turkey has not been hostile to Iran for the most part.

I think this will continue going forward. Despite the apparent rise in wahabi Ideology in certain segments of Turkish society.

 

[MMM-E]

its been how many decades a NATO country with full access to western tech hasn't been able to defeat a bunch of lonely Kurdish rebels armed with sticks?

-- NATO Countries The US , The UK , France , Italy , Germany full of support to Pkk/Ypg Terrorists
-- Iran rules top Leaders of Pkk in Qandil/Iraq against Turkiye
-- Syria always supported Pkk terror organization against Turkiye
-- Iraq hosts many Pkk terror camps against Turkiye
-- Israel always support Pkk terror organization against Turkiye
-- even S.Arabia and The Uae have started supporting Pkk/Ypg terror organization against Turkiye


The US +The EU + Russia all together saved Pkk/Ypg terrorists from the Turkish Armed Forces in Syria

so loser Pkk could not take 1cm2 of land from Türkiye since 1985

let me repeat. You are not in the same league as IRan. and if IRan ever wanted to arm the kurds. you would see Kurdish rebels slaughtering Turkish soldiers en masse and making the east a no go zone.

kurds would get flooded with ATGMs, High yield IEDs, anti-air assets, cruise missiles, ballistic missiles, unlimited funding, training, safe zones, and much much more. I guarantee you if IRan wanted, it could create such a death trap for turks that even the word "kurd" would make you shake.

or Turkiye to be allies with S.Arabia to harm Iran

or Turkiye / Azerbaijan / 35-40 million Turks in Iran to take half of Iran

Do you want another 900+ years Turkish rule over Iran ?

Turkey is useless. they cant even help their best friend Azerbaijan defeat tiny Armenia. If Azerbaijan was in Iranian ally instead, I guarantee you azeri flag would have been flying in Yerevan in their war . What exactly has turkey done that their people are so full of themselves?

even FSA beat useless Iran+Assad Regime in Syria ... but in 2015 ROUHANI called for helping from PUTIN

without Russian protection useless Iran , Syrian Regime and Armenia are nothing
btw Iran supported Armenia against Azerbaijan
and in 2001 Iran threatened Azerbaijan because to steal large oil and natural gas reserves in Caspian Sea from Azerbaijan

and Turkiye sent F-16 Fighter Jets to Baku/Azerbaijan to warn Iran



We have seen treacherous Iran in 2010

in 2010 only Turkiye and Brazil supported Iran for nuclear program against the US and Israel ... but Iran agreed with P5+1 and backstabbed Turkiye

the US - Israel attacked Brazil and Turkiye to destroy Governments
Iran supported GEZI protest against ERDOGAN in 2013
Iran always supported Pkk terrorists against Turkiye


ERDOGAN should be smart not to believe treacherous Iran

btw Iran and Shiite Iraqis welcomed invasion of Iraq by the US and the UK to destroy sunni muslim SADDAM

and Iran with christian Russia destroyed sunni muslim cities in Syria and killed hundreds of thousands of sunni muslim Syrian Arabs

the US ( OBAMA ) gave Iraq to Iran .... Russia ( PUTIN ) gave Syria to Iran

 

[Ansu fati]

I agree about there being a mutual respect factor between Iran and Turkey. Even when `we were openly fighting on different sides in the Syria war. it never spilled over into tensions between Iran and turkey.

we fought for hundreds of years, and eventually Russia came out winners... Iran and Turkey fighting means both of us will lose, and virtually everyone else will win. that's why Iran doesn't support kurds against turkey. and Turkey has not been hostile to Iran for the most part.

I think this will continue going forward. Despite the apparent rise in wahabi Ideology in certain segments of Turkish society.

Do you actually know that 10-25% of turks are shia if add azeris then you have almost even sunni and shia turks yet turks put ETHNICITY BEFORE RELIGION iran has zero influence between shia turks
We are not LOW IQ ARABS and others who fail for sectarian bullshit( i am sorry but this is true this is not intended to insult)
Turkey can in fact make much more damage than iran can do in terms of supporting separatist groups but we know that if we do that then we will shoot ourself in the foot cause there will be another shitjava on turkish border
Reason why kurdish terrorist are not attacking turkey through iranian border is because there is agreement between turkey and iran i am sure you don’t want eastern turney to become largest US base for surveillance against iran plus you don’t want air raid inside iran
Iran is not stupid to give justification US to further encircle them
Everything what i said is in friendly matter it’s not boasting or something like that