Rouhani calls on Erdoğan to take united stance against U.S. agresssion

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

Explain it? They saved what?
PS, Do You know that, Qatar is not the Turkish land, and we saved Qatar with Turkish military base?

Turkish base would have been closed without Iran's support.

 

[Turan09]

The people whom were ruling by occupiers till 1500's and then converted to their invader people from far remote parts of Northern Asia better to find their identity then being allies. History, identity and glory is something that you people will never have.

Disagree. Go and try to read Şah Ismail's poems. After that perhaps you can understand who you converted.
And history identity and glory. We had our fair share, I don't even have to show off... From China to Atilla's Western Hun Empire, glory is belong to us.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Yes I can agree with you, and it looks really hilarious from my perspective that, while Iran harrasing Pakistani air space with UAV's (Your airforce shot down few Iranian Uavs, right?) while Iran supports India for their spy traffic your people still loves Iran. Is this some sort of masochistic pleasure? Do they like to hurt by Iran and after that they ask for more?

You been on this forum for a year and you should one thing that afflicts a "Pakistani"mentality its something that has been issue for close to our 7 decades as a nation lack of identity.What is the Pakistani nation for the Turks you have history of empires and rulers for centuries tho you had minorities like Greeks,Arabs, Armenians the Turks still formed a majority thats why Ataturk was able to form a homogenous Turkish nation that could be secular and natonalist but still have a Islamic populace like wise same with China,Russia and Iran all have histories of being empires and powers, the region of South Asia and modern day Pakistan is so diverse different eras of conquests and changes hence confusion of who are we the reason you see radicalism among the Muslims in Pakistan and Hindus in India the British f..cked the region so hard the created a class of brown sahibs and class of identity confused people now you could understand why some people even to a extent like myself tend to larp for the Iranians,Arabs, or Turks @Turan09

This meme explains the mindset

 

[Turan09]

Turkish base would have been closed without Iran's support.

Sure, Sure! It is there thanks to mighty iran! You are so hilarious that I even pity you for that you really believe this non sense.

 

[doorstar]

Do they like to be hurt by Iran and after that they ask for more?

no, more like they fear a four-front war and thus put up with its harassments (have been doing so for decades)

 

[zectech]

Iranian President Hassan Rouhani on Saturday called on Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to take united stance against Washington following the killing of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani by a U.S. air strike on Friday.

Describing the killing of Soleimani as a grave mistake, Rouhani during a phone call with Erdoğan said that silence in the face of such aggression would embolden the United States, Sözcü newspaper reported.

"If we do not take a unanimous stance against the U.S.' mistakes, a great danger will threaten our region,” Rouhani said.

"Iran and Turkey have always negotiated on complicated matters,” he added.

According to the Russian news agency RT, Erdoğan expressed his "regret" for the loss of Iranian general Qassem Soleimani on the phone, calling him a “martyr”. He also reportedly said he understood the anger of Iran’s people and leaders. He also reportedly expressed his distaste for external interference, which he said destabilizes the region.

Erdoğan discussed regional developments and bilateral relations in phone calls with his Iranian and Iraqi counterparts on Saturday, state-run Anadolu news agency reported.

Erdoğan’s phone call with Iran's Rouhani and Iraq's Barham Salih arrives after Ankara expressed concern about rising tensions between the United States and Iran following the killing of Soleimani.

The Turkish president on Friday led a security meeting to discuss latest developments in the Middle East, following the U.S. air strike in Baghdad that killed the commander of Iran’s elite Quds Force.

SOURCE: https://ahvalnews.com/turkey-iran/rouhani-calls-erdogan-take-united-stance-against-us-agresssion

Turkey under Erdogan won't take a united stance against the US until it is too late for Turkey. Erdogan is too busy wasting time in Syria and Libya, and needs UN and US support.

Mark and Remember Erdogan and Turks, who armed and financed ISIS and then blamed Turkey for arming ISIS. They hate Turkey as much as Iran. Wasting time in continuing a civil war in Syria and Libya is not in Turkey's interests.

Just as when Egyptian President Morsi was toppled in a coup, they look for the next domino to fall in the Middle East, soon it could be Turkey. Trying to topple dominos for Washington when you are a domino yourself is a losing effort.

 

[Turan09]

no, more like they fear a four-front war and thus put up with its harassments (have been doing so for decades)

So you are telling me that, Pakistan with all of her nuclear missiles is afraid of sactioned iran? It is not my job to tell you how to behave. But! If you behave like a weak - pathetic state, you will stay as a weak state. And iran will support india as she wish because there is no price for that.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Disagree. Go and try to read Şah Ismail's poems. After that perhaps you can understand who you converted.
And history identity and glory. We had our fair share, I don't even have to show off... From China to Atilla's Western Hun Empire, glory is belong to us.

To be fair I would argue Iran and Turkey do have a varying degree of similarities as empires ruling stretches of of the Eurasian landmass but most conflicts between the both were mainly centuries ago with borders not shifting since tho there is mistrust between modern day Turkey and modern day Iran cordiality is needed between them on another thread regarding the Huntington thesis there is lack of core nation for the Islamic world right now the only countries I see Is Iran and Turkey at the moment

So you are telling me that, Pakistan with all of her nuclear missiles is afraid of sactioned iran? It doesn't my job to tell you how to behave. But! If you behave like a weak - pathetic state, you will stay as a weak state. And iran will support india as she wish because there is no price for that.

To be fair both the Indians and Pakistanis are all talk no action despite the nukes they possess they never had a major war in their 70 years of independence as states sure few weeks of conflicts but no true wars

 

[Turan09]

To be fair I would argue Iran and Turkey do have a varying degree of similarities as empires ruling stretches of of the Eurasian landmass but most conflicts between the both were mainly centuries ago with borders not shifting since tho there is mistrust between modern day Turkey and modern day Iran cordiality is needed between them on another thread regarding the Huntington thesis there is lack of core nation for the Islamic world right now the only countries I see Is Iran and Turkey at the moment

Normally it should be like you describe but it is not. Let me explain you the problem. There is 30 million Azerbaijani Turks lives in iran, therefore iran sees Turkey and Azerbaijan as a threat. We didn't do anything to hurt them, we didn't do anything to break their country for a new Turkish State. But because of their fear, they are doing everything to hurt us. They are supporting PKK because of this while they are attacking PJAK. Because they believe a strong Turkey is a threat for them.
So be it I am saying. They played a game. Let them see the consequences.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Normally it should be like you describe but it is not. Let me explain you the problem. There is 30 million Azerbaijani Turks lives in iran, therefore iran sees Turkey and Azerbaijan as a threat. We didn't do anything to hurt them, we didn't do anything to break their country for a new Turkish State. But because of their fear, they are doing everything to hurt us. They are supporting PKK because of this while they are attacking PJAK. Because they believe a strong Turkey is a threat for them.
So be it I am saying. They played a game. Let them see the consequences.

I know you are giving a Turkish perspective on your relations with Iran but I don't sound like a Pakistan who worships Watermellon seller and Turkey let's be straight Turkey does not care about Muslim countries most Turks dislike Arabs and Persians all I am saying Turkey is doing what they see right

 

[doorstar]

So you are telling me that, Pakistan with all of her nuclear missiles is afraid of sactioned iran? It doesn't my job to tell you how to behave. But! If you behave like a weak - pathetic state, you will stay as a weak state. And iran will support india as she wish because there is no price for that.

lookee who is talking, an American lacky that is who!

that there "weak, pathetic" state has been running rings around NATO (includiding the mighty turks) who have been trying to find pretexts to bomb it since before the Afghan invasion.

antagonising iranis serves no real purpose except to remove their inhibitions to invade Pakistan openly (which they were supposed to do last Feb but were persuaded not to thus earning them the ire of the USA) in unison with injuns, Afghnis, afghans and iran-loving Pakistanis from within (all supported by your NATO)

 

[-blitzkrieg-]

meh Turkey caused the mess too lets not blame Iran for all of that but the problem with Pakistan is just trying to be cordial

Im not going to defend everything from Turkey (unlike you expect)..But the truth is the invasion of Iraq, fermentation of Kurd separatists (PKK/YPG etc.),formation of a semi-autonomous Kurd state and then their alliance with Bashar lately whirled up Turkey into the chaos of ME ..Iran on the other hand is in conflict with its neighbors since the revolution..Even back in 80s.they started funding rogue elements in and around Quetta to capitalise on the Pakistani shia population.And im not even discussing the shias they attracted back then for war against Iraq.This happened even when Pakistan was against Saddam's regime, we were the first ones to accept their regime, however they thought we did it out of weakness(our intent to not open a third front)

 

[Yankee-stani]

Im not going to defend everything from Turkey (unlike you expect)..But the truth is the invasion of Iraq, fermentation of Kurd separatists (PKK/YPG etc.),formation of a semi-autonomous Kurd state and then their alliance with Bashar lately whirled up Turkey into the chaos of ME ..Iran on the other hand is in conflict with its neighbors since the revolution..Even back in 80s.they started funding rogue elements in and around Quetta to capitalise on the Pakistani shia population.And im not even discussing the shias they attracted back then for war against Iraq.This happened even when Pakistan was against Saddam's regime, we were the first ones to accept their regime, however they thought we did it out of weakness.[/QUOTE.]
The problem with Pakistan is its a weak state on the ideology basis what is to "mean to be a Pakistani" all these problems with Iran and Saudi or others interfering with our nation will only stop when our people see hope in the ideology of the state

 

[Turan09]

I know you are giving a Turkish perspective on your relations with Iran but I don't sound like a Pakistan who worships Watermellon seller and Turkey let's be straight Turkey does not care about Muslim countries most Turks dislike Arabs and Persians all I am saying Turkey is doing what they see right

We do protect our rights and we are loyal to our allies (Real allies). Since 1950 and since 1974, We see Pakistan as a brother country and a loyal ally. Do we dislike you? No. Yes some uppish Pakistanis who believe they have any right to talk about Atatürk and Turkish history is pain in the ***. But other than that we like you.
If you support our cause, we will support you. We are not gonna turn our back to you. But (Just an example) try to do to us something like iran did to you (about indian spies and uav violations) This brotherhood or you being muslim won't save you from our wrath.
Don't see it as a threat, don't see it as pride. It is just a contract, support us just like your forefathers, we will support you just like our forefathers.

 

[Yankee-stani]

We do protect our rights and we are loyal to our allies (Real allies). Since 1950 and since 1974, We see Pakistan as a brother country and a loyal ally. Do we dislike you? No. Yes some uppish Pakistanis who believe they have any right to talk about Atatürk and Turkish history is pain in the ***. But other than that we like you.
If you support our cause, we will support you. We are not gonna turn our back to you. But (Just an example) try to do to us something like iran did to you (about indian spies and uav violations) This brotherhood or you being muslim won't save you from our wrath.
Don't see it as a threat, don't see it as pride. It is just a contract, support us just like your forefathers, we will support you just like our forefathers.

There is no question I like Turkey very much and I wish Pakistan had something close to an Ataturk to fix our weak ideology and identity if there is one thing Pakistanis could learn from the Turks is that

But lets be honest about ourselves we have differing views of the world and geo-politics nothing wrong with that as we do have shared interests in others