Rising above differences!

[jaatram]

So what is the alternative? Perpetual war with India?

yeah it seems like it.

 

[Norwegian]

Yes, as long as they do not have a referendum and declare Kashmiris as people who have the right to choose who they wish to be with, war it is. We have no issues with war above keeping our ability for a second strike capability alive. The rest, India has to keep arming themselves for China.

What referendum? Did we have any referendum on keeping Azad Kashmir as integral part of Pakistan? Why would India do that when our governments never did, not even once?

Are we at war yet, and that is what we are working on. Remember the sub that passed through your waters to Karachi, that is the first step.

We don't need to use our nukes. There will be mutually assured destruction and our cities will look Mohenjodaro and Harappa.

 

[Gufi]

What referendum? Did we have any referendum on keeping Azad Kashmir as integral part of Pakistan? Why would India do that when our governments never did, not even once?

Go open history books and read about the topic at hand then come ask me the same question

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

So what is the alternative? Perpetual war with India?

Well this is an inevitable thing... There is going to be a war when and what would trigger is all for the future...

Yes, as long as they do not have a referendum and declare Kashmiris as people who have the right to choose who they wish to be with, war it is. We have no issues with war above keeping our ability for a second strike capability alive. The rest, India has to keep arming themselves for China.

The issue is not limited to Kashmir...There is also the Indian world power dream and Greater India...We also have Water dispute to add to minor issues like Sir Creek and maritime boundaries... Then there is the problem of off shore Drilling for Oil and Gas that is the very reason India is increasing their Navy and compromising on the Army and Air Force.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

So what is the alternative? Perpetual war with India?

Refer to Taiwan/China, USA/Russia, India/China. Does Norway continue training army? For what to fight the Swedes? Father Christmas? No, it is the same enemy Norway has trained as part of NATO, Russia. Cold war lives on. Refer to my previous post below. I would say we are at No.2

1. You fight.
2. You do everything short of fight.
3. You accept but you use every oppurtunity to show your displeasure.
4. You accept, do nothing but put on ignore.

Referandum? What referandum. Find out what referandum India needed for taking over Hyderabad State. India just invaded and with loaded sarcasm called the military invasion "police action". We should have done exactly the same thing in Kashmir in 1947 and called it "police action 2: Mission Kashmir" like India did with Hyderabad but our leadership was gutless.

Hyderabad 1948: India's hidden massacre - BBC News
Indian integration of Hyderabad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Gufi]

My friend first build one second strike capability then boast of it. I have been listening this news or call it as a hoax from very long time that Pakistan will purchase 8 submarines and Blah Blah Blah.

Listen that is not even the topic at hand, I was replying to a question a poster quoted me and asked, but your army is the only one who has more talking and less action. Always going on about the acquisitions you are about to make, most armies do it quietly and deals are not politicized or put on as a media show like in India. Go find me those Rafales or better yet, those Anti sub helicopters. Submarines take time to get made and delivered, which is something you will not understand. Also with TOT there is time consumed, but do not worry your brain about Pakistan much.

 

[Norwegian]

Go open history books and read about the topic at hand then come ask me the same question

Plebiscite was to be held in both parts of Kashmir, as held by Pakistan and India. Since neither part agreed on its conditions as UN resolution demanded, it was never held to this date.

 

[Gufi]

The issue is not limited to Kashmir...There is also the Indian world power dream and Greater India...We also have Water dispute to add to minor issues like Sir Creek and maritime boundaries... Then there is the problem of off shore Drilling for Oil and Gas that is the very reason India is increasing their Navy and compromising on the Army and Air Force.

People who are all for peace do not realise that there are still books in parts of India talking about the greater India in schools and that is a nation which we expect peace from. What you teach your children is the sum of your intentions.

 

[Armstrong]

@Gufi - Tu Kashmiri hai ?

 

[Norwegian]

Well this is an inevitable thing... There is going to be a war when and what would trigger is all for the future...

Can't you understand with your limited IQ that a war between two nuclear armed states mean mutually assured destruction?

 

[Norwegian]

People who are all for peace do not realise that there are still books in parts of India talking about the greater India in schools and that is a nation which we expect peace from. What you teach your children is the sum of your intentions.

Should have accepted terms of plebiscite back in 1948 instead whining about it 68 years later. Same for Palestinians who ignored UN resolution in 1947 and today whine about Israeli occupation.

 

[Gufi]

Plebiscite was to be held in both parts of Kashmir, as held by Pakistan and India. Since neither part agreed on its conditions as UN resolution demanded, it was never held to this date.

read a book, not what you think you read somewhere
@FaujHistorian @syedali73 @TankMan @Armstrong @Slav Defence
I hope one of you is online and can answer him I am going for sehri.....

 

[jaatram]

What referendum? Did we have any referendum on keeping Azad Kashmir as integral part of Pakistan? Why would India do that when our governments never did, not even once?


We don't need to use our nukes. There will be mutually assured destruction and our cities will look Mohenjodaro and Harappa.

you are too sane to be indulging in such discussion. Enjoy your nordic life. let people here play out there nuclear holocaustic dreams.

 

[Norwegian]

Norwegian
Let me tell you what will happen If they will fire one nuclear missile our BMD will block it. Which Pakistan lacks and the whole Pakistan is an open ground because of no BMD. then India will go gaga. In that war let's say hypothetically one or two missiles goes past our BMD . Second strike capability comes from Navy and as much as less we talk about Pakistan navy the better Indian navy has nuclear submarines and also conventional submarines then do think what will happen to pakistan from Indian Navy. Pakistan will surely seize to exist if war is the way.

Dummy, there is virtually no blockage against nuclear armed missiles. You can maybe stop one or two, but hundreds of missiles? No chance.

 

[Gufi]

Should have accepted terms of plebiscite back in 1948 instead whining about it 68 years later. Same for Palestinians who ignored UN resolution in 1947 and today whine about Israeli occupation.

Somehow the teaching of greater India would disappear from state books for children if we accepted plebiscite stop arguing like a troll... I will answer both questions of yours in detail when I come on line next time.