Reporter’s Execution Could Unleash U.S. Against ISIS

[Donatello]

Was ISIS really a legit threat? They didn't kill the reporter until we started bombing them. Its like we are creating the terrorists against Americans.

ISIS was there well before the execution and was a threat well before that. Wasn't it USA supplying weapons to the Syrian rebels to fight Assad? And now the same weapons end up with ISIS. ISIS was in the making long time ago, because of how idiotically American played it's role in the region, when none was needed. So please, wake up. This is as much of American mess as anything else.

 

[kalu_miah]

Treaty bound? Since when? Don't remember saving people in Rwanda.

Indeed, nor did the ISIS threaten the U.S. about drowning us in our own blood until we started bombing them. So Obama is to blame for what could lead to future terrorist attacks in the U.S. as well as the death of the reporter because of his actions.

Dear Sir, if I may gently remind that the terrorism mess in Iraq was created by the US. So the US has a responsibility to fix what it has broken. As for Syria, without Obama's encouraging words against Assad and participation with regional players like Saudi's, Jordan and Turkey, who came forward to help the rebels, there would not be a rebellion and finally without Obama's hands off approach and resulting vacuum, there would probably be no IS today, if there was proper support for an moderate FSA. You cannot just look at the situation piece meal, please try to look at the total picture in a bigger time frame.

lol.. Iraq should ask for UN help..

Iraq govt. already gave permission to US to bomb, UN help would be good, but not needed, at least not for now.

 

[darkinsky]

America went in when there was no credible Iraqi threat to the region in 2003. The fake WMD propaganda fell face first. Now, when there is a legitimate threat, America is pretending to look the other way. I mean, how screwed up can your foreign policy be?

i don't think that americans are stupid, it is their real policy

americans have infect form the very people they consider as a danger to their country today, supporting mujahideens to counter soviets in afghanistan was american policy which started the entire era of saudi funded Islamic terrorism in the world, supporting the islamic militants in libya was their policy, they supported the islamic militants in syria, now i think that americans are funding and supporting ISIS in reality

from socialist soviets of soviet union to socialists like gaddafi, bashar asad, the americans have used their creation islamic jehadists for their agendas especially against the socialists

this video is from 2010, now america is repeating the same mistake they admitted 4 years ago that they did and are 'cleaning the mess they created',

one day i think that these same monstors americans have nurtured will become their real nightmare for good

america today doesn't care about this mess because it is fullfilling their agenda, but one day they really will and they wont have the power they have today to deal with it

 

[Oldman1]

ISIS was there well before the execution and was a threat well before that. Wasn't it USA supplying weapons to the Syrian rebels to fight Assad? And now the same weapons end up with ISIS. ISIS was in the making long time ago, because of how idiotically American played it's role in the region, when none was needed. So please, wake up. This is as much of American mess as anything else.

Don't you mean Syria had a role in creating the ISIS when Assad created the civil war and led to many Muslim fighters to flock into the region? It be like blaming the U.S. for Iraq's army failures to abandoned their weapons and falling into ISIS's hands.

Dear Sir, if I may gently remind that the terrorism mess in Iraq was created by the US. So the US has a responsibility to fix what it has broken. As for Syria, without Obama's encouraging words against Assad and participation with regional players like Saudi's, Jordan and Turkey, who came forward to help the rebels, there would not be a rebellion and finally without Obama's hands off approach and resulting vacuum, there would probably be no IS today, if there was proper support for an moderate FSA. You cannot just look at the situation piece meal, please try to look at the total picture in a bigger time frame.

And the American forces left Iraq a few years and shouldn't Islamic fighters be heading home as well since then at the time? We fixed it be not being there and not having Muslim fighters to stay and fight foreign occupation. Assad started the rebellion when Syrians wanted change and shooting protestors and even have many Syrian military units joined the FSA side. And along with many Jihadists flocking to Syria. And thanks to Hezbollah and Iran's involvement it makes the Sunnis feel like they are fighting the Shiites instead of just Assad.

 

[darkinsky]

Don't you mean Syria had a role in creating the ISIS when Assad created the civil war and led to many Muslim fighters to flock into the region? It be like blaming the U.S. for Iraq's army failures to abandoned their weapons and falling into ISIS's hands.

dude, you guys appear like totally brainwashed idiots from US government

why did you support terrorists, thats the question, US supported syrian terrorists and they become ISIS, US supports lybian terrorists they become the a menace, you support the mujahideens against soviets, they become alquaeda and talibans, even hilary clinton has admitted to this fact, there is no hiding, you are hiding no where

 

[Oldman1]

dude, you guys appear like totally brainwashed idiots from US government

why did you support terrorists, thats the question, US supported syrian terrorists and they become ISIS, US supports lybian terrorists they become the a menace, you support the mujahideens against soviets, they become alquaeda and talibans, even hilary clinton has admitted to this fact, there is no hiding, you are hiding no where

You seem to think we support this group we must be supporting all. We support the FSA we must be supporting Hamas and Hezbollah as well against Israel. Osama Bin Laden has told the media he never received American help.

Oh and by the way, since you are Pakistani, you also supported Al Qaeda and Taliban as well. Osama living in Pakistan as well as support for the Mujahadeen during the 80s and the Taliban in the 90s.

 

[kalu_miah]

Don't you mean Syria had a role in creating the ISIS when Assad created the civil war and led to many Muslim fighters to flock into the region? It be like blaming the U.S. for Iraq's army failures to abandoned their weapons and falling into ISIS's hands.

And the American forces left Iraq a few years and shouldn't Islamic fighters be heading home as well since then at the time? We fixed it be not being there and not having Muslim fighters to stay and fight foreign occupation. Assad started the rebellion when Syrians wanted change and shooting protestors and even have many Syrian military units joined the FSA side. And along with many Jihadists flocking to Syria. And thanks to Hezbollah and Iran's involvement it makes the Sunnis feel like they are fighting the Shiites instead of just Assad.

You have a point about Assad and his Shia brigade supporters in Hezbollah and Iran, but that too would not be created if US did not invade Iraq and removed Saddam and thus hand over Iraq to Shia Iran in a silver platter. So the root of the recent mess is there in that completely unnecessary act of 2003 invasion.

And as for Assad, it was predictable that he would start shooting people, my view is that Obama should not have encouraged the rebels, if he was not prepared to support the rebels fully from the beginning. A full support would not create a vacuum for the jihadi's to organize and create the IS menace we see today.

 

[Oldman1]

You have a point about Assad and his Shia brigade supporters in Hezbollah and Iran, but that too would not be created if US did not invade Iraq and removed Saddam and thus hand over Iraq to Shia Iran in a silver platter. So the root of the recent mess is there in that completely unnecessary act of 2003 invasion.

And as for Assad, it was predictable that he would start shooting people, my view is that Obama should not have encouraged the rebels, if he was not prepared to support the rebels fully from the beginning. A full support would not create a vacuum for the jihadi's to organize and create the IS menace we see today.

Iraq is still Iraq, not owned by Iran. And the U.S. has pushed for Maliki to have all groups Sunnis and Shiites to work together instead of one group being the rulers of the country. Hence why many Sunnis felt left out and are supporting the ISIS as an alternative. How else would they easily conquered some portions of Iraq. Why did the Iraqi military flee when they have the weapons and the numbers to deal with the infant threat?

 

[kalu_miah]

Iraq is still Iraq, not owned by Iran. And the U.S. has pushed for Maliki to have all groups Sunnis and Shiites to work together instead of one group being the rulers of the country. Hence why many Sunnis felt left out and are supporting the ISIS as an alternative. How else would they easily conquered some portions of Iraq. Why did the Iraqi military flee when they have the weapons and the numbers to deal with the infant threat?

Agreed, its like Humpty Dumpty, hard to put back together once its broken. Note also that for 500 years these areas were under Ottoman and breaking it up with this patchwork of sects created inherent instability. In both Syria and Iraq, strongmen from minority were ruling, it was mirror image. When we remove strongmen, then the majority takes over and it becomes a mess. And add to this the Shia nervousness and zeal to hold on to power in their Shia crescent from Iran to Lebanon.

Lets hope that Abadi govt. will be able to lead and create an inclusive govt. and reduce Iranian sectarian meddling. By this time the Mullah's have learned their lessons, hopefully they will be more reasonable and not push the Sunni's too far. If the Shia's cannot bring the Sunni's of Iraq to their side, then Iraq will break, as Sunni's from both Iraq and Syria will unite for survival, even after IS is removed. But first lets see what Obama does, I have very poor opinion of this man's wisdom and common sense.

 

[1000]

You have a point about Assad and his Shia brigade supporters in Hezbollah and Iran, but that too would not be created if US did not invade Iraq and removed Saddam and thus hand over Iraq to Shia Iran in a silver platter. So the root of the recent mess is there in that completely unnecessary act of 2003 invasion.

And as for Assad, it was predictable that he would start shooting people, my view is that Obama should not have encouraged the rebels, if he was not prepared to support the rebels fully from the beginning. A full support would not create a vacuum for the jihadi's to organize and create the IS menace we see today.

Not a silver platter

On a golden plate is the famous sentence

 

[notgoodenough]

The world is going to hell in a handbag. The middle east is lost and so is western europe and the US. African is still acolony as well. Its basically Eurasia and Latin America. Every other place in the world is turning to shit and its all because of nato and gcc countries and tbeir terrorists and nazis.

 

[k7n2d]

Question is what will american govt. do with this situation. I hear there are total 20 missing american journalists. With James now gone, there still possibilities that we will see another execution similiar to James. It is not funny if the govt. just ignore them.

Reading James's mother's plea to IS feels hurt. She said her son and the other journalists have no control of what US govt. did.

 

[nvKyleBrown]

Treaty bound? Since when? Don't remember saving people in Rwanda.

Indeed, nor did the ISIS threaten the U.S. about drowning us in our own blood until we started bombing them. So Obama is to blame for what could lead to future terrorist attacks in the U.S. as well as the death of the reporter because of his actions.

1) We were treaty-bound at that time too, and ignored the treaty. I suppose you could argue that if you ignore it once, it's ok to ignore it again, but we were then and still are treaty-bound to stop genocide (as are all other UN members). If you don't like the treaty, you should terminate the treaty, not ignore it, IMHO. https://treaties.un.org/doc/Publication/UNTS/Volume 78/volume-78-I-1021-English.pdf

2) As far as drowning anyone in blood, it is a silly threat - Arabs are famous for wild exaggeration along these lines (remember Baghdad Bob? (Baghdad Bob Quotes - Iraqi Information Minister Quotes Killing a reporter is no more than other militant groups have done before (Daniel Pearl, and others). The fact that the world media is outraged by a journalist getting killed, but was considerably less interested by the potential massacre of 50,000 non-Europeans is kind of indicative. This or some other militant group will kill more reporters in the future. Preventing a single killing is probably impossible, but we can do something about wiping out a whole people.

3) If you don't like the intervention, make up a sign and go protest somewhere. I will not be joining you, and will exercise my voting franchise accordingly.

 

[darkinsky]

You seem to think we support this group we must be supporting all. We support the FSA we must be supporting Hamas and Hezbollah as well against Israel. Osama Bin Laden has told the media he never received American help.

Oh and by the way, since you are Pakistani, you also supported Al Qaeda and Taliban as well. Osama living in Pakistan as well as support for the Mujahadeen during the 80s and the Taliban in the 90s.

i didn't talk about hamas, but i talked about the one in syria, libya and afghanistan

and i agree that Pakistan in fact made the talibans and other many religious proxies but it all started from american idea of assembling al wahabi terrorists in afghanistan using its old buddy saudi arabia

all this dirty ISIS, FSA, TTP, al quaeda started from there and even now instead of opposing them, US seem to drop once in a while to support them and use them where ever it needs them and them dumps them

 

[anHuman]

America went in when there was no credible Iraqi threat to the region in 2003. The fake WMD propaganda fell face first. Now, when there is a legitimate threat, America is pretending to look the other way. I mean, how screwed up can your foreign policy be?

this is part of their plan

after their withdrawal from Iraq , there was a new Order in region and they didn't like it ( it was against their interests ), and they didn't have resource to directly crush it ( for this they need to begin a war even greater than 2003 war ) , so they just used an old British plan and supports groups like Al Nusrah and ISIS in the name of "Supporting Free Syria Army " to crush the new order and reshape region as they like ....

if you see their foreign policy as someone like me , you will just admire them for this ...