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Educated ones are no better.When 50% can't even read or write thier own name... manipulation is easy.
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Educated ones are no better.When 50% can't even read or write thier own name... manipulation is easy.
Educated ones are no better.
With all due respect, outside South Asia, Barelvis can hardly be considered Sunnis considering how different they are compared to all the other Sunnis. The amount of lore they have added on top of Orthodox Sunni Islam makes their version of Islam way different from all the other versions of Sunni Islam.I thought the term Sunni had more to do with fiqh than aqeedah?
Also, outside of Pakistan, in the greater Islamic world, sunni vs shia vs salafi trichotomy pai jaati he.. I would assume deobandis are included in sunni.
Also, sir. no offense, ye qadianis wali to chawal hi maari he
They can claim to be martians. Unki kiya baat he. Unless aap tamam non-barelvi's aur qadianis ko aik hi soti se haank rhe hn, which I don't think you are. Is liye ye example inappropriate he, I think.
prostrating and kissing with the intention of worship or even respect is Haraam. You can consult any competent and reliable Mufti to understand it better.No difference between that and this...
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In both instances the ground is kissed out of reverence.
If you want a good example of what's wrong with religion in Pakistan see the tone and content of the dialogue in this thread.
Qays ibn Sa'd narrates that I went to al-Hirah and saw them (the people) prostrating themselves before a satrap of theirs, so I said: The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) has most right to have prostration made before him. When I came to the Prophet (peace be upon him), I said: I went to al-Hirah and saw them prostrating themselves before a satrap of theirs, but you have most right, Apostle of Allah, to have (people) prostrating themselves before you. He said: Tell me , if you were to pass my grave, would you prostrate yourself before it? I said: No. He then said: Do not do so. If I were to command anyone to make prostration before another I would command women to prostrate themselves before their husbands, because of the special right over them given to husbands by Allah. (Abu Dawood: 876)
Given the above and similar texts, prostration for anyone besides Allah is unlawful, and regarded a major sin. If practiced out of worship, then it will be disbelief (kufr).
In regards to kissing the grave it is stated in Raddul Muhtar that to kiss the ground in front of a respected person is unlawful. If this is done out of worship or even respect then this is disbelief. However if it is done as a greeting then it will not be disbelief but sinful. (Vol 5, P271)
It is clear from the above that if the kissing of the grave was done out of worship then there is no doubt that this is shirk, however if it was done as a means of greeting then although it is a major sin the person should not be called a mushrik but rather the severity of the matter explained to him/her and he/she encouraged to ask for sincere repentance.
Educated ones are no better.
What is wrong is our Aqeedah and the concept of Tauheed. Muslims need to strengthen their fundamentals.If you want a good example of what's wrong with religion in Pakistan see the tone and content of the dialogue in this thread.
prostrating and kissing with the intention of worship or even respect is Haraam. You can consult any competent and reliable Mufti to understand it better.
There is also quite a difference between kissing the land as greeting and kissing the land and grave where someone is buried in vicinity.
I can quote some references for you to get a shallow understanding of the Islamic Fiqh (Jurisprudence) on this matter but it is more advisable that you consult with a learned Islamic scholar and books.
There is no difference of opinion in all 4 madhabs regarding kissing the grave or land and vicinity or bowing around them to be a sin.
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So babiologists are very angry nowadays
Sade Nabi jia te hai e koi nae
O babe te she e koi nae
With all due respect, outside South Asia, Barelvis can hardly be considered Sunnis considering how different they are compared to all the other Sunnis. The amount of lore they have added on top of Orthodox Sunni Islam makes their version of Islam way different from all the other versions of Sunni Islam.
Bowing to a stone or even Ghulaf e Kaaba or kissing it is not allowed no matter what the intention is. What constitute Shirk is a bit different but there is no difference of opinion with regards to bowing to something out of love, respect etc to be a sin.Even thinking of worshiping a stone is shirk and kufr but what if the person finds the stone (marble) beautiful and decorates his house with it. Is he a kafir. Similarly the act of kissing is not shirk, bowing is not shirk.
THis reminds me of Jewish way of worship. Plenty of photos and videos of how they rever their Western Wall.
Sajda-e-Taazimi ended with the Teachings of Hazrat Isa AS.
Bowing to a stone or even Ghulaf e Kaaba or kissing it is not allowed no matter what the intention is. What constitute Shirk is a bit different but there is no difference of opinion with regards to bowing to something out of love, respect etc to be a sin.
The only exception to kissing out of respect is Hijr e Aswad
Jami` at-Tirmidhi 860 - The Book on Hajj - كتاب الحج عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)
Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabicsunnah.com
Very well said.So this false shirk propaganda must stop and we need to educate the Muslims to get rid of their jahil acts, and unite to defend our religion.
Jami` at-Tirmidhi 860 - The Book on Hajj - كتاب الحج عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم - Sunnah.com - Sayings and Teachings of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه و سلم)
Hadith of the Prophet Muhammad (saws) in English and Arabicsunnah.com
THis reminds me of Jewish way of worship. Plenty of photos and videos of how they rever their Western Wall.
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